[HN Gopher] Google Isn't Grad School
       ___________________________________________________________________
        
       Google Isn't Grad School
        
       Author : prudentpomelo
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2023-07-06 18:19 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.theatlantic.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theatlantic.com)
        
       | engineer_22 wrote:
       | Google is limited - but I don't have to pay for it.
       | 
       | Grad school is laudable, but it's too damn expensive!
       | 
       | What's a person to do?
       | 
       | EDIT: Why did you delete your thoughtful reply 34wtg?
       | 
       | EDIT EDIT: https://archive.is/EWAOO
        
         | dragontamer wrote:
         | > EDIT: Why did you delete your thoughtful reply 34wtg?
         | 
         | New account. Somehow the flagging / banning system caught them.
         | I vouched for his comment as it looks pretty good and relevant.
         | 
         | Vouching is basically an "anti-flag" on Hacker News. If you've
         | got your settings to be on "show all", including banned
         | comments / erased comments, then you have the ability to vouch.
         | I think its a feature that unlocks above a certain karma, so
         | you may have missed it in your settings the first time you
         | registered for Hacker News.
        
         | 34wtg wrote:
         | The articles isn't really about grad school. It's just the
         | headline.
         | 
         | The article is about how the internet allows non-experts to
         | confidently assert inaccurate information. It suggests that we
         | scrutinize the actual credentials of the people giving us that
         | information, and go to the original source whenever possible.
         | It also suggests that we all cultivate humility, and remember
         | that we are not experts because we watched a video or read an
         | article.
         | 
         | So that's what a person is to do. According to the article.
         | 
         | BTW, Here's my advice for cultivating humility on Hacker News.
         | Go do a search for threads about FTX, Theranos, WeWork, and
         | Moviepass from a few years ago, and see what the average Hacker
         | News user had to say about them. You'll find skeptics, of
         | course. But also plenty of users absolutely certain that
         | there's something to these companies, and that the founders are
         | merely playing a game of 5d chess, or something like that. It's
         | a good reminder that we can all get things wrong, even when
         | we're really sure about something. And a reminder that nobody
         | is immune to being duped.
        
           | engineer_22 wrote:
           | Thanks!
           | 
           | I admit once I saw the paywall I stopped.
           | 
           | Here's a link for those interested:
           | 
           | https://archive.is/EWAOO
        
       | habitue wrote:
       | Not saying everything in this article is wrong, but I actually
       | think the opposite is more true.
       | 
       | Google + Wikipedia + chatgpt + youtube are imperfect sources of
       | knowledge, but they are vastly better than the no-knowledge
       | people had in the days when credentialism was born.
       | 
       | It used to be an simple argument: "Is your job $PROFESSION? No?
       | Then you probably know almost nothing about it." There's not much
       | subtlety here, you literally won't know that profession's
       | knowledge. There's maybe some osmosis if you're family with
       | someone in the profession, but by and large: you just didn't know
       | anything at all about it.
       | 
       | Now the argument is more subtle: Do you know this thing at a
       | shallow wikipedia-level only? Is this thing a shallow subject
       | that you could plausibly learn without being a practitioner?
       | What's the difference between someone who has watched 30 videos
       | on YouTube about installing a bathtub and someone who installs
       | bathtubs professionally? It's some difference, but is it a lot? A
       | little?
       | 
       | I get where this article is coming from: we all suddenly have
       | this broader knowledge than we ever would have in the past, but
       | it's not robust deep knowledge. But the answer isn't to counter
       | it with "make sure you see their credentials or they know
       | nothing". The answer is we need our model of expertise to accept
       | a spectrum of expertise, rather than a binary choice like "got a
       | degree in it or not"
        
       ___________________________________________________________________
       (page generated 2023-07-06 23:03 UTC)