[HN Gopher] Joplin - An open-source note taking and to-do applic...
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Joplin - An open-source note taking and to-do application with
synchronisation
Author : 3np
Score : 290 points
Date : 2023-07-06 04:40 UTC (18 hours ago)
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| imafish wrote:
| I switched from unstructured Trello / OneNote / Notepad notes to
| Joplin 4 years ago.
|
| I sync it through cloud between mobile, desktop and laptop.
|
| It is simply awesome. One of the most important tools I use
| everyday.
| sbkg0002 wrote:
| I like Joplin, but the fact that they refused to create an arm64
| Darwin build, made me look for alternatives.
| laurent123456 wrote:
| Not sure why "refused". We want to support it but it's not
| trivial and it doesn't help that we don't have the hardware to
| test this. It will be done eventually
| t_sawyer wrote:
| Been using Joplin as my main note app for over 2 years.
|
| IOS, Web Clipper, and Windows clients. Synced to Nextcloud.
|
| I do wish there was a webapp for me to see my notes in a browser
| but I understand the way it works how that would be difficult to
| create due to the use use of local files and syncing.
| lienz wrote:
| I've used Obsidian, Logseq, Apple Notes, and Joplin recently.
|
| I really like Obsidian for how performant it feels for handling
| really long md files with outline.
|
| But the best capturing experience is Logseq. I just record
| everything I do in the journal (daily) page and just tag them
| (tag can have hierarchy and spaces too) . I don't have to think
| about directory structure or which file the info should go into.
| Logseq sucks for handling long form md files tho, so I keep
| Obsidian for that.
|
| Joplin I tried to use it until it started having sync conflicts,
| and the sync corruption error cannot be dismissed. Google
| solutions suggests exporting JEX and delete everything and re-
| import. I give up after that.
|
| Apple Notes is really nice too but lack coding highlight.
| saghul wrote:
| Really happy with Joplin! It's one of those pieces of software
| that Just Works (TM) and allows me to not worry about it.
|
| I'm using the Joplin sync server for keeping my stuff in sync and
| it has worked flawlessly.
|
| If Laurent or anyone from the Joplin community is reading: great
| job everyone! <3
| lf-non wrote:
| I love joplin - it has been my goto solution for adhoc notes for
| almost two years now. I use it on multiple devices and they all
| sync to an S3 bucket which is very cheap setup that works well
| once configured properly.
|
| I don't love the default editing experience but the Rich Makdown
| extension solves it well for me.
|
| The extension ecosystem is a bit of mixed bag. There are few good
| extensions but many are half baked.
| wanderingmind wrote:
| For those that want to crosslink anything and everything I
| suggest Logseq[1]. Its journal and graph view are fantastic. And
| it has many useful plugins. I use it along with git-sync [2] and
| syncthing [3] now I can sync the notes across my work, personal
| desktops and my mobile.
|
| [1] http://logseq.com/
|
| [2] https://github.com/simonthum/git-sync
|
| [3] https://syncthing.net/
| eitland wrote:
| I jumped from Joplin to Logseq too.
|
| Before it was Boostnote.
|
| Probably the reason was both Boostnote and Joplin seems to have
| stopped developing the application and shifted focus to
| monetization.
|
| Also I personally prefer the (much) more technical way that
| Logseq work. It is not a markdown editor, but a knowledge base
| that stores its data as plaintext files in a markdown-like
| format.
|
| One question: do you have pointers to a good way to setup git
| sync and syncthing? I pay enough to LogSeq to have free sync
| but I prefer to self host and also the current sync model is
| somewhat flaky.
| wanderingmind wrote:
| I have a private git repo in Github which is the folder that
| Logseq uses. I have a cron job to runs script for git-sync on
| all machines on reboot. I also have syncthing running on my
| personal desktop that shares this git repo with my android
| phone. It runs smooth as long as you don't do simultaneous
| edits from multiple machines.This will break the git-sync and
| you will have to do merge conflicts of that happens.
| laurent123456 wrote:
| I don't know about Boostnote but Joplin is still actively
| developed. Just check the changelogs, and all that is open
| source:
|
| https://joplinapp.org/changelog/
|
| https://joplinapp.org/changelog_android/
| eitland wrote:
| Ok, I only open the app sometimes to see if there is an
| update available and I can't remember last time I saw one.
| privacywiki wrote:
| Do you have any idea on how can I import Joplin md's into
| Logseq?
| stanislavb wrote:
| A huge fan of Logseq here. I can't imagine my workflow without
| it anymore. However, I still can't have it on mobile because of
| sync. iCloud is awful, Syncthing doesn't support mobile.
| DirkH wrote:
| I have it synced to mobile using syncthing no issues. Has
| been working great with very few hiccups for months
|
| This app works great on Android: https://www.f-droid.org/pack
| ages/com.nutomic.syncthingandroi...
| jhoechtl wrote:
| > Syncthing doesn't support mobile.
|
| Just checking ... yes, I have Syncthing running on Android.
| tiim wrote:
| Does syncthing not support iphone? Because on android it
| works flawlessly.
| awill wrote:
| my understanding is that syncthing doesn't work properly on
| iOS, because Apple doesn't allow background processes. So
| you have to manually sync all the time. I'd imagine you'd
| get into some merge conflicts if you forget to manually
| sync and start editing notes.
|
| That's why ios apps generally either use their own sync, or
| use iCloud. As someone that has a mix of devices (iOS,
| Linux desktop, macbook for work), this leave me with very
| few cross-platform options.
| Tomte wrote:
| It works well enough. I've never had a problem.
|
| This background process issue may prevent optimal
| operation, but I've never seen a file not being synced
| quickly in practice.
|
| Just get Mobius Sync (https://www.mobiussync.com/) and
| don't overthink it.
| jeffvogelsang wrote:
| Have look at Mobius Sync. It is a third party app that wraps
| and makes SyncThing available on iOS & iPadOS.
| https://www.mobiussync.com/
| rho138 wrote:
| Until you deploy the web or electron apps and realize it
| beacons out to the internet.
| dunco wrote:
| I looked at logseq as an alternative to joplin but there were
| too many little flags that suggested to me that privacy and
| being free might not be forever. I don't have a problem with
| paying for software, but I don't like getting embedded in it
| when I don't know what the cost will be. Privacy wise,
| statements like "The aim of Logseq is to establish a better
| environment for both learning and collaboration, enabling us to
| form a network that connects our ideas and enhances the
| collective knowledge of humanity." worry me. I don't want my
| ideas connected with humanity and I certainly don't want my
| notes used to train someones LLM. Maybe this is an unfair
| reading, as they do claim to be privacy focused, but I am
| worried that they will discover far to many interesting and fun
| things to do with user data and I just don't really like where
| that sounds like its headed. If Joplin could do better sharing
| (with eg a colleague or spouse) on mobile and better separation
| of work/private notes (like different storage locations) it
| would be just about perfect for me for a note taking app, but
| then my needs are pretty simple.
| Tomte wrote:
| > I looked at logseq as an alternative to joplin but there
| were too many little flags that suggested to me that privacy
| and being free might not be forever.
|
| Exactly my thoughts when I looked at it a few weeks ago
| (minus the privacy angle that I didn't feel).
|
| I also bounced off the slew of influencer-type blog posts and
| videos that promise you that Logseq will change your {life,
| studies, PhD, work} forever when all I saw in those videos
| were very, very simple outlines. The whole community
| (including the subreddit) seems very... promotional.
| niyyou wrote:
| Just try it out before interpreting their vision (which I
| totally ignored up until now). It is simply a nice system
| based on your local markdown files, allowing to easily cross-
| link notes. It is opinionated but I like that. It follows the
| bullet journaling approach and has a rudimentary integrated
| todo system.
|
| I have personally tried many alternatives (obsidian among
| them) but nothing comes close to what logseq offers _to me_,
| despite its few shortcomings (it's not a lightning fast
| implementation, it bugs sometimes).
|
| Hope it helps.
| 8n4vidtmkvmk wrote:
| Why would you want to try it before interpreting their
| vision? That's how you trap your data in an app before it
| turns to garbage.
| cube2222 wrote:
| It uses plaintext markdown files, so I don't think it's
| too big of an issue.
| acidburnNSA wrote:
| Same. I've tried a dozen different notes options and logseq
| is the one that has stuck the longest. After screen sharing
| it at work a little there are now 10 more people using it
| daily for notes and talking about how it's what they've
| always been looking for.
| wanderingmind wrote:
| Thank you for the info. Since, I use my own local data and
| don't store anything on their cloud, I didn't read their
| cloud storage plan. I hope how they will not be able to train
| LLMs or connect with other data sources if the data is not
| stored on their cloud. One lesson I learned os that if you
| use any cloud storage, they can always update the ToS and
| EULA at anytime to break through privacy
| DirkH wrote:
| Just don't sync to the cloud. Use syncthing and any privacy
| concerns are solved. That's what I do. Works great syncing
| between my 3 devices
| rhamzeh wrote:
| > better separation of work/private notes (like different
| storage locations)
|
| FYI, as of last year, Joplin supports profiles on both
| Desktop and Android that are exactly that. Though you do have
| to restart the app to toggle between the two.
|
| Release notes:
| https://joplinapp.org/news/20220606-release-2-8/
|
| Open issue for multiple instances ala Firefox:
| https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/issues/591
| mitchitized wrote:
| Longtime joplin user here - been using s3 sync storage since it
| was available. As long as it is open and free, that will be my
| note app of choice. Yeah the mobile app definitely needs work,
| and there's always room for improvement overall. But it is free
| as in "free beer", as well as "free speech". Both are hard
| requirements for me, at least for my notes (and data, in
| general).
|
| I have years of notes in joplin, spread across dozens of
| notebooks and several profiles. I'm impressed.
|
| There are a zillion competitors out there, some with extremely
| beautiful interfaces - but it MUST be open for me to even look at
| it.
| greenie_beans wrote:
| s3 sync is still broken for me. haven't had time to open a pr
| to fix it.
| lbotos wrote:
| Do you have an open issue for it? Curious as to what the fix
| is. (I _jankily_ re-wrote the sync when it broke a while back
| so curious what 's not working.)
| princevegeta89 wrote:
| How is the sync now? Does it only sync every 5 minutes, with
| the user requiring to manually press "sync" for every change?
| Or does it sync on changes automatically?
|
| I'm asking because I used it in the past and the sync
| limitation often caused conflicts for my mobile and desktop
| clients
| jl6 wrote:
| I use Joplin extensively on multiple devices and I find that
| the only way to completely avoid sync conflicts is to make
| sure you hit sync after entering data on one device, and then
| hit sync on the other device before using it.
| hoistbypetard wrote:
| FWIW, with OneDrive sync, I haven't noticed that problem. I
| use Joplin quite a bit from both desktop and mobile, but
| have been living without the browser extensions in an
| experiment since the beginning of this year.
| princevegeta89 wrote:
| Interesting, thanks for confirming.. not sure yet if I want
| to jump back to Joplin yet.
| oslac wrote:
| I tried a few, but (nearly) default Obsidian won me over by
| simplicity, ease-of-use.
| NewsMichaela wrote:
| Like that Joplin is open source and love the extensibility
| (plugins, API): In my workflow, I have it set up to store my
| transcribed speech notes and todos (with accurate offline speech
| recognition): https://github.com/QuantiusBenignus/NoteWhispers
| Kaibeezy wrote:
| People seem to be talking about this/these mainly for note
| taking, but I'm really only looking for the web clipping
| function. Evernote has been fine for my vast collection of chashu
| recipes, audio equipment schematics and philosophy enchiridia. I
| sure wouldn't want to lose that stuff. Joplin then? Obsidian?
| Something else? /rhetorical - I will keep reading the comments.
| laurent123456 wrote:
| Joplin does have a Web Clipper
| msravi wrote:
| I tried many note-taking apps and finally settled on Notable[0].
| It's simple and you can point it to a folder with markdown files
| and attachments. Plus, you can just sync the folder using any
| syncing service, and use Noteless[1] on Android. The tagging
| support is superb, you can cross-link notes, render math using
| katex, and export to pdf.
|
| Because of the simple folder structure, you can also use vim+fzf
| to search/navigate/create/edit your notes. The notational-fzf-vim
| plugin[2] is superb for that.
|
| For web-clipping, I just use the markdownload[3] extension in
| firefox and save the markdown file in the notes folder.
|
| Why not joplin? Mostly because joplin stores notes in an sqlite
| database instead of a simple folder structure making it not
| easily accessible by normal unix tools and editors.
|
| Why not obsidian? Was never able to grok obsidian. Pointing it at
| my existing notes makes it just show up as a huge mess of
| unstructured notes. I guess it needs some effort to organize and
| link existing notes. In notable, I can tag a note as Books/CS,
| and CS/Books, and it'll show up in corresponding folder-like
| structures in the left panel. Can't do that in obsidian.
|
| 0. https://notable.app/
|
| 1.
| https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.redsolver....
|
| 2. https://github.com/alok/notational-fzf-vim
|
| 3. https://github.com/deathau/markdownload
| anta40 wrote:
| Notable looks cool. The mobile apps are not ready, though. OK,
| let's try it.
| msravi wrote:
| Noteless on Android works well with Notable
| jq-r wrote:
| Or Textastic on iOS.
| fluder wrote:
| FSNotes for iOS and macOS, native and fast
| pjturpeau wrote:
| Do you know how Noteless compares to GitJournal on Android?
| Thank you.
|
| https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.gitjournal....
| msravi wrote:
| Gitjournal used to make a lot of stuff (including things like
| rendering math equations) subscription-only, which was
| sufficiently off-putting.
|
| I just looked at it again, and I think they've gotten rid of
| the subscription and made it a one-time "pro" purchase.
| That's better than subscription I guess. The only added
| advantage I see is that syncing with git is built in.
| GaryWilder wrote:
| [dead]
| WhiteSabbath wrote:
| [dead]
| dermesser wrote:
| > Why not joplin? Mostly because joplin stores notes in an
| sqlite database instead of a simple folder structure making it
| not easily accessible by normal unix tools and editors.
|
| But instead much more accessible to any kind of software,
| including a five line python script. While plain text files are
| useful, they shouldn't be taken to be the only true and
| accessible way of storing data, even textual ones.
| msravi wrote:
| Not saying that text format is the one true way - but _I_
| find it much more convenient to browse /read/search for notes
| than reading from a database.
| rhamzeh wrote:
| Some pros of Joplin that go unnoticed vs other note taking apps:
|
| 1- Available on F-Droid (unofficially) 2- Available as a Flatpak
| (unofficially) 3- Supports syncing to file system (thus syncing
| via syncthing) 4- Supports encrypting the exported files 5- Open
| source 6- Can handle a lot of notes (I have around 5k, but some
| of those are large notes) 7- Dark Mode
|
| These, among many other features make it my note editor of choice
| for the past 5 years.
| bornon5 wrote:
| The ideal "knowledge base" app I've been searching for is as
| follows: - Self-hosted - Attractive web
| client that loads very quickly and works well on mobile -
| Can point it at a nested directory of text/markdown and image/pdf
| files (no sql database) - Text files are editable in place
| (no "edit" button, etc.) - Markdown displays in a plain-
| text view (no hidden formatting characters, no "rich text"
| editor)
|
| Every app I've tried misses at least of these. The closest I've
| found, strangely, is vscode-server, which is just too bloated and
| mobile-unfriendly to work for me. I'm perpetually a millimeter
| away from writing my own, but I feel like I need to stop doing
| that.
|
| Does this app exist?
| rakoo wrote:
| Do you _really_ need a web client ?
|
| I use markor
| (https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.gsantner.markor/) on
| android and it does everything I need. It's all a bunch of
| files, synchronized with syncthing, so I can use it on my
| desktop with any editor (maybe https://thiefmd.com/, maybe
| another one). No need for a server, I can use it while offline,
| it's lightweight to install and maintain.
| bornon5 wrote:
| I want to be able to access the same content from my laptop,
| phone, and tablet. I used Obsidian for a while with a
| convoluted setup (a Git repo with an iOS shortcut that
| fetched when the Obsidian app was launched), but it proved
| too slow and error-prone to continue using.
|
| I want the whole stack to be open source, which is why I'm
| not using Obsidian Sync or an iOS Syncthing client. So while
| I don't technically need web client, I don't know of any
| other solution that would work for me.
| 369548684892826 wrote:
| How about using iCloud for sync?
| rakoo wrote:
| I understand your concern, personally syncthing does a
| perfect job for me. I'm never editing from multiple devices
| at the same time, and by the time I switch to another
| device the content is synced. If not, I give it a little
| time and it makes me pause and use computers a little bit
| less, so it's not that much of a downside.
| bornon5 wrote:
| How are you using Syncthing on iOS?
| rakoo wrote:
| Oh, sorry, I didn't understand you were using iOS, I
| don't use Apple products and I didn't know there was no
| proper syncthing on iOS.
| flangola7 wrote:
| They said they're on Android.
| [deleted]
| theshrike79 wrote:
| Obsidian has everything but "Attractive web client", but it
| does have a native client.
|
| The "database" is just a bunch of directories you can sync with
| any tool you want.
| addandsubtract wrote:
| Any tool except Dropbox on macOS. Don't store your Obsidian
| library in Dropbox.
| jhoechtl wrote:
| > but it does have a native client.
|
| Its an electron app.
| NoMoreNicksLeft wrote:
| Doesn't seem to have self-hosted syncing. Or am I missing
| something?
|
| And even if it's in there, $8/month for syncing seems to
| defeat the point of "self-hosted".
| theshrike79 wrote:
| Like I said, the "database" is just a directory of files.
| You can use anything you want to keep it synced. I've used
| OneDrive, Dropbox and iCloud to sync mine.
| NoMoreNicksLeft wrote:
| I'd much prefer "syncing" to be something I set up once,
| and then forget about it.
|
| If it is "anything I want to do to keep it synced", then
| I'll be half-assing it forever, losing notes and so
| forth. Already doing that, and the 500 pages of notes
| from 3 years ago on Google drive, to the "attach it in
| Gmail to a draft so I can look it over at home", hell
| even a few somewhere on iCloud. For some things others
| might be interested in, I've even got a few github gists.
|
| This, for me, is a problem that is central to notes
| software. It might be the one problem that makes or
| breaks them. At least with the pricey subscription
| garbage apps, they know enough to know that I don't want
| to have to think about syncing.
| theshrike79 wrote:
| I pointed my Obsidian vaults to iCloud and haven't had to
| think about it ever since.
| kertoip_1 wrote:
| I've used Joplin for a few years, had a few hundred notes on it
| and even sponsored it on GitHub. Then I've changed my smartphone
| which also brought with it an updated version of Android. The new
| Android version had some changes regarding how an app can manage
| a filesystem, which ultimately broke Joplin. I've waited a few
| weeks for an update (couldn't read my notes on a phone then) and
| even when it finally arrived, the process of synchronization was
| so slow and buggy I couldn't do it. That (together with other
| sync bugs I've been reporting earlier) was the reason I've lost
| patience and switched to Obsidian. Either way, I'm thankful for
| developers for those few years, that was a really great tool
| zelifcam wrote:
| I've been running multiple Joplin servers. One for personal and
| one for work. Hasn't let me down yet. Always room for
| improvements, but it does reliable do the job. Easy import and
| export. No worries of being locked into anything.
| Qahlel wrote:
| After trying Joplin (for several years), I finally decided on
| Obsidian instead.
|
| It is the better product and has a better 3rd-party support.
|
| https://obsidian.md/
| t0bia_s wrote:
| I use Joplin over 3 years now, however Android app over 2.5
| version is not possible sync over Syncthing. So I cannot update
| since 2.5 version which is not great, not terrible.
| rcarmo wrote:
| I like the idea and tried it a couple of times, but the iOS UX is
| abysmal and should be redone from scratch.
| anonzzzies wrote:
| Joplin is great; unlike similar apps, it's very fast. Even with
| gigs of pics in a doc, it still scrolls fast. Others I tried
| don't even open or crash/corrupt.
| Icathian wrote:
| Joplin is a gem of open source, and I use it daily on all of my
| machines. I'm so grateful to have a good FOSS notes app that
| syncs cross platform. I've been a patron for years and
| recommended it to lots of people.
|
| If anyone has questions about how I use it or my workflow I'm
| happy to shill this app more, lol.
|
| I know Obsidian is the cool kid right now but I just absolutely
| can't imagine using a closed source app for something as personal
| and important as my notes.
|
| Since the dev is hanging out in this thread, I will say that I'd
| absolutely love me some vim keybindings though.
| banku_brougham wrote:
| Joplin is great. But there is a huge gotcha if you start using
| it from iOS instrad of laptop client first -- you can never
| connect access phone notes from other device.
|
| This was true last year, hopefully was fixed.
| vwadhwani wrote:
| Vim keybindings are possible* with the exception of hitting :q
| to exit*. For that, you still need to type :exit.
|
| *
| https://www.reddit.com/r/joplinapp/comments/ww4crz/vim_mode_...
|
| ** https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/issues/236
| Icathian wrote:
| Ah this is really helpful. Thanks!
| Barrin92 wrote:
| > can't imagine using a closed source app for something as
| personal and important as my notes.
|
| given that it's Markdown and local whatever you open it with at
| the end of the day doesn't matter much. That's the benefit of
| relying on a lightweight markup language, you're not locked in.
| maroonblazer wrote:
| > If anyone has questions about how I use it or my workflow I'm
| happy to shill this app more, lol.
|
| I've recently begun using Joplin and am still futzing my way
| around. Would love to hear about anyone else's workflow.
|
| One question, not specific to Joplin, I always have with note-
| taking apps is what's the best way to organize content? Or do
| you not worry about that and simply use tags to create
| structure/relationships?
| Icathian wrote:
| I use notebooks and nested notebooks heavily. I've found that
| a directory-style structure works well for me, especially
| because the integrated search is also good if I forget where
| I put something. I have never personally had success with
| tagging for organization, but maybe that's just me.
|
| In no particular order, I recommend:
|
| * WebDAV to sync your files, I just use some of my fastmail
| storage and draft off the $5 a month I already pay them
|
| * Pasting screenshots from your clipboard into your markdown
| works automagically on desktop, drops the file with a
| generated name into the Joplin file structure. It elevates
| the tool quite a bit imo
|
| * It is worth getting comfortable with some of the basic
| markdown annotations. Just knowing to use asterisks and
| underscores and whatever speeds you up a lot from having to
| go click the "bold" button or whatever.
|
| * I really like editing with the preview pane open. It closes
| the loop for me, and is the best of both worlds where I get
| to just type the annotations at my normal typing speed, but
| also see the formatted output so I can make changes as I go.
| ra1n wrote:
| These are the types of applications that I really love. It stores
| the data in a cloud service that already has enough free capacity
| for say a notes app. It's like how we can store pass(1) passwords
| on a git repository (Sync it with Github) and use that as the
| destination of Android Password Store[1], and you have a easy
| password manager that syncs across devices.
|
| [1] https://github.com/android-password-store/Android-
| Password-S...
| hobo_mark wrote:
| My phone recently died and had to move to a new device and
| resynchronize my Joplin "vault". I have tens of thousands of
| notes and the Android app just cannot complete the first sync. I
| left it running all night (sync gets slower and slower as it
| progresses) with "stay awake" enabled on Android (because Joplin
| stops synching as soon as the screen locks or the app is not in
| focus) and even after restarting multiple times, sync never
| completes (it claims it finished, but most recent notes are still
| nowhere to be found).
|
| This is using the WebDAV backend as that's the only option I have
| (so long as there's no Google Drive backend).
|
| I am looking for alternatives (with a web clipper extension and
| native apps on windows/linux/mac/android).
| rubymamis wrote:
| Shameless plug for my native (Qt C++ based) open-source, cross-
| platform note-taking app[1]. It's fast, beautiful, and just
| works.
|
| The next version will add an option to turn your Markdown tasks
| into a beautiful Kanban view[2] via QML. This feature will be
| paid but anyone will be able to compile the source with a simple
| CMake flag to get the PRO version for free.
|
| Currently, it uses a DB but we aim to port it to support
| arbitrary folder (simple .md/.json files, depending on the
| complexity of the editor). I'm working on a mobile version and a
| built-in sync option as well.
|
| Once the built-in syncing is complete I will probably only charge
| for that and the client itself will be completely free.
|
| [1] https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes
|
| [2] https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes/pull/574
| lf-non wrote:
| Last I checked this did not provide an obvious way for links
| between notes. This is a crutial feature for many folks who
| work with lots of small interlinked notes.
| rubymamis wrote:
| Indeed, I want this feature badly myself to create wikis and
| such. There's an open issue[1]. We'll definitely implement
| that some day.
|
| [1] https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes/issues/431
| dizhn wrote:
| > Currently, it uses a DB
|
| Nice little program. This is the reason I had skipped it after
| testing since I wanted it to use it on multiple platforms with
| syncing handled by me.
|
| Btw, you're adding Kanban support?
| rubymamis wrote:
| I can understand. Supporting plaintext/.md files in folders
| will be our main focus for the release after the next one.
|
| And yes, this will be released soon for Notes v2.2.0.
|
| Work in progress video: https://i.imgur.com/VCt0Zvg.mp4
| Zetobal wrote:
| Great work. I love it.
| rubymamis wrote:
| Thanks! (:
| jfreax wrote:
| Looks nice. Good to see that there are still native apps in
| development! Looks a lot like Joplin - which I like.
|
| But: I couldn't find anything about syncing my notes or mobile
| clients / other ways to access my notes. Even in the "vision"
| document. That's a must have functionality _for me_. Probably
| not important for everyone... therefore, good luck with your
| project :)
| rubymamis wrote:
| Hi there! I wrote in the above comment that it's planned.
| We'll support arbitrary folder (switch from DB), develop our
| mobile up (switch from QWidgets to Qt Quick), and develop our
| own built-in sync option.
|
| Currently, you can change the database location to your
| synced folder (Dropbox, etc...) in the settings, but some
| users reported data conflicts while others said it works
| fine. You can try this but I'll wait till we officially
| switch from DB.
| sharikous wrote:
| Has it got math formula support?
| gettodachoppa wrote:
| Thanks for making this. I look forward to trying it tonight. A
| few thoughts:
|
| 1. Any chance for a mobile version with cloud sync? Qt compiles
| for mobile too, after all. I access my notes from my phone all
| the time so this is a must for me.
|
| 2. How come so many indie devs are off making their own notes
| app instead of pooling their efforts? For example off the top
| of my head QOwnNotes is a Qt widget note app, and a QML-based
| one I think is called Noter but which I can't find anymore now.
|
| 3. Judging from the UI I take it you're an Evernote user, or
| used to be? There was a post today about all the Evernote staff
| being laid off, so I feel pressured to move away ASAP. Other
| than Joplin do you have any recommendations that work on
| mobile?
| PurpleRamen wrote:
| > 2. How come so many indie devs are off making their own
| notes app instead of pooling their efforts?
|
| Notes are something very simple on surface, but can become
| very complicated and diversified on details. So everyone
| starts doing their own personalized sh*t, some are happy with
| this, and some learn the hardships of it and abandon their
| projects at some point. So we have a constant stream of half-
| assed notes-apps of various flavors, and some which are
| really well-made, to stay.
| rubymamis wrote:
| Hey!
|
| 1. We're currently using QWidgets which doesn't look good on
| mobile. But we plan to port the UI to Qt Quick (logic will
| stay in C++). Our new Kanban feature and some other widgets
| are already built with Qt Quick/QML. And we'll work on
| syncing too. I wrote that in my comment above.
|
| 2. We're actually using a major component from the maker of
| QOwnNotes called QMarkdownTextEdit[1] for our Markdown
| editor. It Works great (thanks @pbek!). Just two days ago
| someone managed to port the syntax highlighter to QML[2]
| which paves the way for us to port the UI over to QML.
|
| 3. I never used Evernote (maybe I used it for a short time
| but I can't remember). Because we currently don't have a
| mobile app I use the built-in Apple's Notes on my phone that
| syncs well to the Desktop app and then I'll just copy over
| the notes to my app.
|
| [1] https://github.com/pbek/qmarkdowntextedit
|
| [2] https://github.com/pbek/qmarkdowntextedit/issues/158
| anta40 wrote:
| Looks cool. Will try it. I assume it doesn't support images at
| the moment?
| rubymamis wrote:
| Thanks! You're right. It's in our bucket list.
| peon2345 wrote:
| How does it compare to obsidian?
| victorp13 wrote:
| Tried both for quite some time, Obsidian has better community
| plugin support, better sync (paid) and stores plain text files
| instead of using a DB. Most importantly the mobile app (at
| least for iOS) of Obsidian is 1:1 with the desktop app.
|
| Switched from Joplin to Obsidian and haven't looked back. Both
| apps are great initiatives though!
| andrewshadura wrote:
| Joplin also uses plain text files.
| pantulis wrote:
| Does it reflect notebooks/folder structure also in the
| filesystem? That's exactly what I need from a PKM tool:
| that not only the files but also the structure of the
| notebooks is reflected in the filesystem so I can have
| interoperability. This way I can decide to work with
| Obsidian, EagleFiler, Notebooks.app or DEVONthink while
| also having the possiblity of using the regular Finder to
| work with my files.
| hnaccount141 wrote:
| The data itself is plaintext, but it's stored in a sqlite
| db rather than directories of markdown files on disk.
| bhdlr wrote:
| > How does it compare to obsidian?
|
| Definitely personal preference, in my experience the UX is
| terrible compared to obsidian but the pricing and company are
| much more consumer friendly
| bhdlr wrote:
| > How does it compare to obsidian?
|
| Definitely personal preference, in my experience the Joplin UX
| is terrible but the pricing and company are much more consumer
| frienldy
| faeranne wrote:
| Having started with Joplin, the three things that took me away
| were the (at the time) lacking mobile support, periodic syncing
| collisions, and probably most importantly, their non-standard
| file format. There _was_ a tool that could extract files into
| standard markdown format, then repack them, but the overhead
| was tiring, and meant a few key environments lacked access,
| namely when I was accessing a server from the rack, and when
| the mobile app acted up. I actually moved to just using vimwiki
| style setup with markdown and a markdown editor app on my phone
| for several years, before I stumbled across Obsidian. I 've
| since been using obsidian for about 9 months now, which is
| longer than my time with Joplin, and I will say that, once I
| got a stable sync going (I'm using the simple sync plugin and
| my own s3 compatible server), the plugin support, decent mobile
| app, and native markdown files have won me over. Though I'm
| still eyeing open source options with Logseq, just waiting on
| their mobile app to pick up and properly support plugins. I'll
| be more than happy to port _everything_ as soon as it supports
| that.
|
| As an additional note, I will add that despite Obsidian being
| closed-source, I actually feel more comfortable with my data
| there than with Joplin, primarily because all my data is just
| common markdown. With Joplin, if I archive content, I have no
| guarantee the notes on the file format will exist in 10 years
| (they probably will, but it's still a real possibility). With
| Obsidian, it's plaintext. There's nothing to need to
| rediscover, no file format to decode, just good old plain-text.
| In 40 years I'll still be able to read those files (though the
| storage media is a very different story). Sure Obsidian can
| change plans mid-stream, and I don't trust they wont, but all I
| gotta do is go back to my markdown editor and vim. No sweat.
| cldwalker wrote:
| > Though I'm still eyeing open source options with Logseq,
| just waiting on their mobile app to pick up and properly
| support plugins. I'll be more than happy to port everything
| as soon as it supports that.
|
| If you haven't already, I'd recommend voting on
| https://discuss.logseq.com/t/plugin-support-for-ios-
| android-... if you're waiting for mobile plugin support
| laurent123456 wrote:
| > In 40 years I'll still be able to read those files (though
| the storage media is a very different story)
|
| With Joplin, you can easily archive as Markdown+FrontMatter
| and that format will still be readable 40 years from now with
| text and metadata included.
|
| Additionally, in case you forgot to make a backup, and 40
| years later all traces of Joplin have disappeared from earth
| and you can't find an old version of the app, the backend is
| a simple SQLite database, so you can do `SELECT * FROM notes`
| and get your content back.
| suddenclarity wrote:
| Worse. I want to see the result when writing so I always had to
| have a separate preview window open which stole a lot of screen
| space. Obsidian solved this with the WYSIWYG mode where a
| paragraph transforms to markdown when you click on it, but the
| rest of the document shows the end result. It makes the
| experience a lot nicer when embedding tables and images that
| you can look at directly and write in-depth about without just
| seeing a filename.
| peblos wrote:
| Think it's a bit of personal preference to be honest
|
| I tried both a couple of years ago and much preferred obsidian,
| although I know long term Joplin fans who have pretty tight
| workflows and love it
| _def wrote:
| For me personally the only upside is that I don't have to pay
| separately for syncing the documents and can use Dropbox
| instead. Yeah I could use Dropbox on my phone too for obsidian
| but it's not a great experience when all you want is
| taking/reading notes without hassle.
| OliveMate wrote:
| I tried it out for a while, I'm sure that it's a great program
| and it's various free sync options & encryption system may
| immediately put it ahead, but as a basic user I found it much
| more complicated to the point where I couldn't figure out how
| to simply sort files into folders (and I don't know if that's
| something you can do). There's an interesting tagging system to
| search posts with and there's a ton of plugins out there if you
| want to do things you can usually do.
|
| I really ought to give it a shot again when I've got a clear
| head.
|
| If you want a FOSS alternative to Obsidian that's just as
| simple you could try Zettlr, but currently it's rather rough.
| You have to change the UI settings to get the folders/file view
| that Obsidian has, and I found readability to be rather poor.
| Initially there's no way to make in text larger without zooming
| in the entire UI, font, and the themes that are available
| aren't the best for writing or reading notes (and if you like
| one specific theme you're sod out of luck if you want a darker
| version of it) - if you want to change things to your liking
| you have to experiment with the experimental Custom CSS option.
| Midnight1938 wrote:
| Its easier to pick up and use without having to worry about
| data loss
| zenjester wrote:
| [dead]
| pseufaux wrote:
| I really want to like Joplin, and I've tried to switch a number
| of times. But the mobile experience just isn't there for me. The
| iOS app is simple and reliable, which is good, but it's missing
| some of the touches that make mobile computing feel like it's
| made for mobile.
|
| Specifically, things like swipes for navigation and for selecting
| or deleting notes. Also, many of the buttons are just too damn
| small for my sausage fingers. It's dumb, I know. Still, I find
| myself attempting to swipe to open the side bar then realizing my
| mistake after the second try and fumbling to reach the too small
| hamburger in the very top left of the screen.
|
| Notes are something I reference at my desktop but generally write
| while on the go, so having a easy to use mobile app is a
| requirement for me. It's a shame though cause the desktop
| experience is so good.
| EGG_CREAM wrote:
| Agreed. For me, the simplicity and forward compatibility of
| syncthing and a markdown editor are too great to give up for
| Joplin.
| laurent123456 wrote:
| Thanks for the feedback. We plan to update the mobile app so
| it's good to know what needs to be improved.
| dunco wrote:
| just jumping on this to say I'm a Joplin user and I love it,
| thank you for building an awesome app. I currently also use
| notion because of Joplin's lack of note sharing on mobile; if
| good note sharing came to the Joplin mobile app I wouldn't
| need anything else. The only other feature I'd want that I
| think is missing from Joplin is the ability to define
| different storage locations / encryption keys per notebook to
| allow good separation of work and personal data. Overall
| though, wonderful app and I am so happy that something like
| it exists. I really feel like the intentions of the app
| developers align with my values, and that it will continue to
| go in the right direction for years to come.
| laurent123456 wrote:
| Glad you like the app and thanks for the kind words! For
| separation between work and personal notes, we know support
| multiple profiles, as described here, available on both
| mobile and desktop:
| https://joplinapp.org/news/20220606-release-2-8/#multiple-
| pr...
|
| By note sharing on mobile, what do you mean? I believe you
| can share some text from any app to Joplin. And there's
| also a way to share from Joplin to any other app (from the
| context menu). Or is it not currently working?
| ochoseis wrote:
| > Specifically, things like swipes for navigation and for
| selecting or deleting notes.
|
| Gestures / swipe-navigation gets me every time too. There's
| also a new enhanced editor on iOS but it's a little clunky so I
| switched back to the plain textbox one. I still use and love
| Joplin, but tolerate some rough edges on mobile because it's
| truly open source.
|
| Joplin on desktop with the MacOS theme-plugin is great. The
| markdown editor on an actual Macbook outshines whatever is
| packaged with Linux, but both are very usable. Several other
| nice plugins on desktop that I rely on are inline-tags, simple
| backup, templates and the outline sidebar.
|
| Overall, love Joplin and can't wait to see more improvements as
| time goes on.
| ycombinete wrote:
| What app do you use instead of Joplin for notes?
| pseufaux wrote:
| Obsidian. It's not perfect but I like a lot of what it
| brings. Particularly, I like that the notes remain in an
| accessible format (though as long as the format is not
| proprietary I'd be fine) and the mass of third party plugins
| supports basically any workflow. The main issue for me is the
| fact that the main app is not open source (not for any
| particular reason other than that I like supporting open
| source initiatives). I pay for their sync option which works
| well, though on iOS your kinda forced into it as iCloud sync
| does not work well. Otherwise, though their mobile experience
| improved greatly in recently releases.
| gessha wrote:
| Obsidian user as well.
|
| Self-hosted LiveSync extension works wonders after you tune
| it a bit.
| jadahl wrote:
| Piping content from the Internet to bash is a terrible way to
| distribute applications on Linux, I'd recommend making the
| official method a Flatpak instead. It'll allow you to sandbox
| your application, which is good for the user, and it'll handle
| the integration (e.g. app icon etc) correctly.
|
| No user should ever be urged to install anything with that
| method, it's unsafe.
| laurent123456 wrote:
| In which way can it be exploited?
| theshrike79 wrote:
| If I serve you a 2000 line unformatted bash script from an
| URL and tell you to pipe it to bash, will you do it? Should
| you do it?
|
| Do you have the mental fortitude to format it and go through
| it line by line looking for possible exploits?
|
| It's 100% trivial to have it run rm or shred on all files you
| have access to while simultaneously printing correct looking
| install progress messages.
| mtlynch wrote:
| Is the issue with telling people to pipe URL output into
| bash? Or is the issue with _any_ distribution method that
| isn 't flatpak or something similarly privilege-limited?
|
| I see how flatpak is an improvement, but I don't see how
| piping into bash is any worse than "install this .deb file
| / npm package / pip package." If the package author wanted
| to do something malicious, it's just as easy (if not
| easier) to put the malicious code in the package itself
| rather than a bash installer for the package.
| jjnoakes wrote:
| If you trust the author of tool you are installing and the
| installer is by the same author, then why wouldn't you
| trust the installer too?
|
| > It's 100% trivial to have it run rm or shred on all files
| you have access to while simultaneously printing correct
| looking install progress messages.
|
| The same is true of the tool itself, too.
| duckmysick wrote:
| Yes, hence the trend of moving to sandboxed apps with
| limited access to your files (and other capabilities).
| otikik wrote:
| What's the difference between that and downloading and
| running an installer?
| 3np wrote:
| If the installer is a precompiled binary, not much,
| though this is mostly a Windows-ism these days.
|
| If we're considering the same batch script: You can read
| it,it before running and be sure that the endpoint
| doesn't dynamically give you different results depending
| on how you fetch it.
|
| In either case, the proposal here was flatpak, which does
| provide security benefits like sandboxing.
| agadius wrote:
| Love Joplin! I love it so much, my lazy ass actually donated. I
| spent quite some time searching for open source alternatives that
| don't have an ulterior motive. Currently using nextcloud sync and
| it works. Sometimes the iOS app and the Linux desktop app are out
| of sync, but a sync fixes that. Would love to see mTLS
| implemented at some point!
| nologic01 wrote:
| With Joplin and Nextcloud on a self-hosted vps I'm basically
| done: access from mobile, linux, windows etc.
| mindracer wrote:
| I use and like Joplin a lot but the mobile app is pretty poor. I
| find it a frustrating experience
| _def wrote:
| What don't you like about the mobile app?
|
| In my opinion it's not worse than the desktop app (but I don't
| really like both of them - I'm just glad it syncs successfully)
| mindracer wrote:
| It's a pretty clunky experience trying to creating and
| editing notes. There's also the constant worry about
| conflicts, to try and cut them down I open the mobile app,
| hit sync, make an edit then hit sync again. I use WebDAV,
| maybe Joplin Cloud is better at it
| laurent123456 wrote:
| Contrary to popular belief, the mobile app is not forgotten - I
| count about 40 releases in total for the past 12 months.
|
| We probably spend as much time working on it than on the
| desktop one, but unfortunately it is much harder to develop for
| mobile, especially when you have to make sure it works on the
| many different Android devices and iOS versions, plus the extra
| work to comply with the ever changing requirements from the
| Google and Apple stores. Many of these changes are not visible
| to the user, but without this boring never ending maintenance
| work the app simply wouldn't exist.
|
| We do plan to update the UI/UX of the mobile app though, as
| we're aware it could be made more intuitive. I'm very keen on
| improving this and hopefully it will happen this year.
| mindracer wrote:
| Good hear, looking forward trying it out
| wouldbecouldbe wrote:
| I'm different from a lot of people it sounds like here. I mainly
| use one big ass note and I want my note app to start as fast as
| possible to get the idea I have on paper asap so I can forget
| about it.
|
| Nothing is able to beat the Apple notes experience, even if my
| main phone is an Android. I still prefer it.
|
| The main thing is, Apple is instant, you open it and type. Joplin
| takes 3-10 seconds on my phone and doesn't remember what note I
| was on if not on standby mode.
|
| Also syncing. Often goes wrong. I like one big notes for my main
| planning & things to remember. Most apps manage multiple fine,
| but one big one often goes wrong. Had issues trying Google keep
| and evernote. Havent tried it with joplin yet, will give it a go.
| nabogh wrote:
| I've been using Joplin for a few years now. But only recently
| I've been exploring writing my own plugins for it.
|
| I've never written a plugin for anything before but it's been
| very easy, and overall a very pleasant experience. My plugin
| basically lets you automate moving notes to specified folders
| based on what tags are present.
| onedr0p wrote:
| My major problem with Joplin is the lack of a native client for
| Apple Silicon, otherwise it's great. I know you can run it with
| Rosetta but it's performance and load time is terrible.
| millzlane wrote:
| Recently started using Joplin. I find myself reformatting
| everything I paste into it from the browser. I thought the long
| load time was just the program. Didn't realize it wasn't
| native. I find myself not using it because it does feel clunky
| and slow and just easier to take screenshots.
| senectus1 wrote:
| looks good but I'm still pretty happy with self hosted trilium
|
| https://github.com/zadam/trilium
| Propelloni wrote:
| No discussion of note taking apps is complete without Zim Desktop
| Wiki [1], so let me be the one who sings its praise! It's less
| web or mobile oriented than Joplin but gives me everything I
| need. Plain text files, syncing, lots of plugins. And task
| management, oh boy. Task management is second to none, including
| orgmode. I'm a faithful user for years now and I am still happy I
| found it.
|
| [1] https://zim-wiki.org/
| dantheta wrote:
| Also an extremely happy Zim user for desktop notes, projects &
| work journal.
|
| Recently I was looking for a self-hosted equivalent to Google
| Keep (which I use mainly for lists, quick notes and web
| snippets), and tried out Joplin. It looked pretty good, but I
| wanted a web app frontend, which Joplin doesn't seem to have.
| I'm now trying out Memos [1] now, and it's pretty good so far
| (though I would love to see postgres support in Memos as well
| as the current sqlite DB).
|
| [1] https://usememos.com/
| [deleted]
| guptarohit wrote:
| I've tried many note taking apps, but now settled with Joplin.
| All other alternatives are on freemium model.
|
| I'm glad we have something like Joplin. Kudos to the Joplin team
| & community.
| q-base wrote:
| I have tried to switch to Joplin from Evernote twice. But each
| time I have ended up being frustrated with the synchronisation.
| It is just too slow in my opinion. Perhaps I have too many notes,
| but I will be looking for another alternative to Evernote that
| can work on my phone and Ubuntu.
| diarrhea wrote:
| I got a large performance bump by increasing the number of
| allowed open connections from the default 5 to 20 in all
| clients. I'm syncing to a self hosted Nextcloud via WebDAV.
| q-base wrote:
| I sync to self hosted Nextcould via WebDAV as well, so I will
| give that a try. Thanks a lot!
| laurent123456 wrote:
| Which backend did you use for sync?
|
| You usually get better sync performance by either self-hosting
| or using Joplin Cloud. I don't know of any good WebDAV
| provider, let alone a free one, and even the paid ones have
| limitations that make them unusable for sync.
|
| OneDrive and Dropbox have a free tier and work with Joplin, but
| they throttle the connection. But I guess it depends on how
| many notes you have and how you use Joplin - a lot of people
| use OneDrive or Dropbox and it works good enough for them.
| q-base wrote:
| I sync to Nextcloud. But I can see another responder to my
| original comment suggests a config change that I will try.
| laurent123456 wrote:
| Nextcloud has a surprisingly inefficient WebDAV
| implementation. It's not clear how they got it so wrong
| compared to, say, Nginx or Apache WebDAV, but they did.
| Maybe they are doing some processing on each request,
| creating thumbnails, checking for shared files, locks, or
| something that's not really necessary but it is slow as a
| result. Perhaps some config changes could indeed help
| though.
| bachmeier wrote:
| Fastmail comes with WebDAV. I used it with Joplin, but it
| pushes a very large number of files to the server. I have a
| paid OneDrive account. Found out that sync didn't work with
| OneDrive (random files just won't sync). Maybe they've fixed
| it, but I was not impressed.
| bartvk wrote:
| Is SimpleNote something for you?
|
| It only supports plain text notes (with Markdown rendering),
| but I've got years of notes in there, and it works on every
| platform. It's also owned and supported by Wordpress.
| mwexler wrote:
| I keep looking for replacements but wind up every time coming
| back to Simplenote. Well worth considering as a baseline to
| compare other offerings against.
| q-base wrote:
| I haven't looked at SimpleNote before. So I will look into
| whether that might be a good fit for me. Thanks for sharing.
| NoMoreNicksLeft wrote:
| The funny thing about Joplin sync being too slow... years ago,
| I complained to the author that his markdown files weren't true
| markdown, and his rebuttal was that it was necessary to pollute
| those to get sync to perform well on Nextcloud/webdav. I
| pointed out how he might have just written a small NC plugin to
| achieve the same effect, at which point the thread was closed
| and I was no longer welcome to comment.
|
| Maybe that's changed since though.
| kerneloops wrote:
| The only problem to me is that the "official" Joplin Server is
| proprietary:
| https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/blob/dev/packages/server...
| petemir wrote:
| I think it is a reasonable decision
| https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/crowdfunding-joplin-server...
| piokoch wrote:
| Big no-no to Joplin for me is that it is using some custom data
| format (sqlite I think). Why bother? Just give me an app that can
| handle nicely markdown files, syncing I can do myself e.g.
| (Synology, rsync) or use some file syncing service (Dropbox,
| OneDrive, whatever).
|
| Zettlr does the trick for me without interfering with what I
| write.
| bityard wrote:
| I wrote my own note-keeping system[0] and very much wanted all
| of the notes to just be markdown files on the disk. It turns
| out that there are trade-offs to this. If you want plaintext
| markdown files on disk AND want fancy features like file
| versioning, a search index, tags, etc then you need to store
| all of that metadata somewhere and you're down writing a half-
| assed implementation of a DBMS.
|
| Now, you can certainly bite the bullet and full-ass the
| implementation like Dokuwiki did, but that is really quite a
| lot of work and effort against simply `import sqlite` and
| writing a couple of tutorial-level queries. And it turns out
| that exporting all of your documents to plaintext, if you
| should so choose, is a one-line command away.
|
| [0]: https://github.com/cu/silicon
| dizhn wrote:
| I was never able to get encrypted syncing working with Joplin.
| I tried every year or something for a while but it never
| worked. I kept looking for an Evernote alternative for years.
| The closest that got there is Leanote, which is a Chinese
| company's open source product. (https://github.com/leanote)
|
| I finally gave up the search. Switched to unencrypted plain
| text md files synced with syncthing. On Linux I use Kate. It
| has a directory tree view and recursive search in said
| directories. It works great. On Android I am using Markor to
| point to the same shared directory. I don't think I'll ever
| start looking for a note taking app again. I also found I don't
| really take notes much. So there's that. :)
| PurpleRamen wrote:
| > Why bother? Just give me an app that can handle nicely
| markdown files
|
| Markdown (and any other markup) really sucks for anything that
| is more than just plaintext with some formatting. The best
| markdown-app we have at the moment are those like Obsidian or
| Logseq, and they are very low-key compared with a proper
| richtext-app, like Notion or even a mature word processor.
|
| And looking and the hard struggle of obsidian and their
| community-plugins, it might be really time to get a proper open
| richtext-format for the notes-space, to liberate us from
| markups and their limitations. Maybe something json-based, to
| bring the notebook-movement into the ring too.
| fbnlsr wrote:
| > Just give me an app that can handle nicely markdown files
|
| You know what does that well? The filesystem.
|
| I've tested pretty much all note-taking software out there.
| What ended up working for me is a bunch of markdown files
| inside folders, synced using Github.
|
| I have search, formatting and preview thanks to VSCode, and I
| can access my notes on any machine that syncs with Github.
| thinkmassive wrote:
| If you want to leave all your notes unencrypted on github,
| then sure that's an option.
| cube2222 wrote:
| You can use something like git-crypt[0] to e2e encrypt it.
|
| [0]: https://github.com/AGWA/git-crypt
| laurent123456 wrote:
| "Custom" would be the way Apple Notes or Evernote stores their
| data in opaque binary blobs. SQLite is standard and you can
| open it with plenty of third-party tools, but I see your point
| about plain text files being more convenient for certain tasks.
| zimpenfish wrote:
| > SQLite is standard and you can open it with plenty of
| third-party tools
|
| Tends not to play well with things like Dropbox or Syncthing
| though. Although I guess you can use litestream or something
| for the replication instead.
| anta40 wrote:
| What's the issue? I guess it's just as simple as uploading
| the .db?
| Tomte wrote:
| You're changing some note on device A and the same note
| differently on device B.
|
| Both sync. You now have a conflict.
|
| With text files, you at least have obvious merge
| strategies. With SQLite it isn't quite as easy.
|
| I still don't mind SQLite in Joplin. It has advantages,
| as well.
| anta40 wrote:
| Ah the multiple devices issue. I see...
| diydsp wrote:
| I sync Joplin via Dropbox across phone and 2 laptops. In
| theory a prob? But in practice rare to never bc im only one
| user on one device at a time. And im making small changes
| at a time. There was 1 minor conflict once and Joplin saw
| it and i quickly resolved it.
| DeathArrow wrote:
| I am pretty happy with Obsidian.
| janlaureys wrote:
| Obisidian with icloud Drive sync is pretty sweet.
| SamuelAdams wrote:
| Same here. I only use note taking apps on my Mac, so syncing
| isn't something I am interested in. For me the interface of
| Obsidian is really top notch. Typing headers and code block
| quotes doesn't feel like it gets in your way.
|
| My only complaint is that embedded images are saved at the root
| level by default. Would be nice if I could hide those or move
| them to an /Images folder,
| lienz wrote:
| > embedded images are saved at the root level by default.
|
| I'm not sure if I understand your complaint, which is
| something that can easily be changed.
|
| Open Settings (cmd-,) > Files & Links, and look for
| Attachment folder path and change to whatever path you like.
| cjm42 wrote:
| I've been using Joplin for a while now, syncing via Nextcloud.
|
| One tip: I set up a cronjob to export into a Git repository so I
| have a complete history. The core of the script is:
| joplin sync joplin export --format=raw "$tmpdir" #
| Rsync that directory to the repository # This deletes files
| that no longer exist in the current export. /usr/bin/rsync
| -a --quiet --delete --exclude=.git "$tmpdir/" "./"
| /usr/bin/git add -A
| rtpg wrote:
| I use Joplin and it... it basically works! Bit ugly at times but
| I really enjoy having a thing that works on my computers and my
| phone. Sometimes I end up in Drafts instead on iOS because of how
| Drafts is really "just open and go", but even then I'll copy-
| paste it later.
|
| Joplin is great at being a place to put a lot of ... simple rich
| text documents in a random manner, and have access to them.
| Wordpad with sync, and it does its job.
| hosh wrote:
| How does this compare with NoteNook? (Open-source, local-first)
| eitland wrote:
| Link?
| mwexler wrote:
| Perhaps poster was thinking of https://notesnook.com?
|
| Their pitch is as a privacy focused notes manager.
| NewsMichaela wrote:
| Love Joplin's FOSS nature and extensibility. In my workflow, I
| have set it up to accept transcribed speech notes and to-dos.
| https://github.com/QuantiusBenignus/NoteWhispers
| andwaal wrote:
| I switched from Evernote to Joplin last year and are super happy.
| Syncing against an S3 bucket and everything works great, rarely
| any problems.
| eviks wrote:
| Joplin is a solid option, using it along with Simplenote for some
| quick notes since Joplin's sync isn't that great.
|
| But I was wondering whether there is somehting not tied to the
| simplistic markdown with next-gen note tech like rich text and
| CRDT for great sync conflict resolution and note history and non-
| Electron clients for performance?
| Fervicus wrote:
| A requirement for me in a note taking app is password protection
| on the desktop client. That's one thing preventing me from using
| Joplin.
| hoistbypetard wrote:
| Out of curiosity, why do you require that? On my desktop, my
| system account is protected, never left unattended while
| unlocked, and I've got full-disk encryption.
|
| I can't presently imagine a benefit to an extra password for my
| notetaking application, so your comment makes me wonder whether
| I'm missing something or whether I just use it a little
| differently than you do.
| Fervicus wrote:
| I have other people use my computer from time to time, but
| not for enough time to warrant a separate account. From what
| I understand, Joplin's data is also stored unencrypted on
| disk. I don't use full-disk encryption and I don't want to
| use it just for Joplin. Are people using my computer going to
| open up my notes app or snoop around in the sqlite db?
| Probably not. But I like to have the peace of mind.
| dadoomer wrote:
| Long time Joplin user. I LOVE Joplin. Got it synched with
| Dropbox. Several people have asked me what app I use when they
| see it. It's just what a note app should be: simple, cross-
| platform, markdown-based, can export notes.
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