[HN Gopher] Growing a Language (1998) [video]
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Growing a Language (1998) [video]
Author : swatson741
Score : 98 points
Date : 2023-07-04 00:26 UTC (1 days ago)
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| ElevenLathe wrote:
| [flagged]
| Pet_Ant wrote:
| If you've never seen this video you owe it to your self to watch
| it. It really I think captures the essence of systems thinking.
| mywittyname wrote:
| It's also a master class in story telling, which you rarely see
| the context of a technical presentation.
| dang wrote:
| Related:
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| _Growing a Language (1998) [video]_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24383919 - Sept 2020 (34
| comments)
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| _Growing a Language, by Guy Steele (1998) [video]_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16847691 - April 2018 (20
| comments)
|
| _Growing a Language (1998) [pdf]_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10153391 - Sept 2015 (8
| comments)
|
| _Growing a Language (1998) [video]_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9918286 - July 2015 (10
| comments)
|
| _Growing a Language, by Guy Steele_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3744125 - March 2012 (5
| comments)
|
| _Guy Steele: Growing a Language (video 53:30)_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2359174 - March 2011 (21
| comments)
|
| _Growing a Language, by Guy Steele_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=827107 - Sept 2009 (2
| comments)
|
| _Growing a Language, by Guy Steele [video]_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=626380 - May 2009 (3
| comments)
|
| _Growing a Language by Guy Steele_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=152311 - April 2008 (7
| comments)
|
| _Worth reading or rereading: Guy Steele 's Growing a Language
| (PDF)_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=92542 - Dec 2007 (1
| comment)
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|
| p.s.: reposts are fine after a year or so; links to past threads
| are just to satisfy extra-curious readers. Also it's good for the
| classics to reappear periodically, so new cohorts of HN users get
| to know them and the culture can propagate!
| swyx wrote:
| One of my favorite talks of all time. I took personal notes here:
| https://www.swyx.io/notes-on-growing-a-language-by-guy-steel...
| 082349872349872 wrote:
| it was the math prof who made "life" who gave (with a friend hop)
| me the game where one speaks with just these base words.
| bigdict wrote:
| what? john conway? what words?
| justinpombrio wrote:
| Yes, that is the math prof. And they mean, words with just
| one -- how do you say -- speak beat?
| teddyh wrote:
| ITYM "syllable"
| jodrellblank wrote:
| That can not be a word, it is too big. One pulse per word
| is the most there can be.
| pansa2 wrote:
| Tell me you've not watched the talk...
| teddyh wrote:
| The talk defines the word.
| [deleted]
| seanhunter wrote:
| On a separate note, Guy Steele's Common Lisp Book is awesome.
| https://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/cltl2.html
|
| It's a bit of a regret for me that it was always a hobby thing
| and my career never took me in a direction where I would have got
| to use it in a professional capacity.
| djha-skin wrote:
| I love all the dry jokes in it. Just scattered thither and yon
| like it was a children's book, easter eggs found in the most
| unlikely places.
| kagevf wrote:
| Do you know if it's common to read CLTL2 from front to back,
| or just use it strictly as a reference?
| tmtvl wrote:
| It's probably better to read it front to back because CLTL2
| isn't 1994 standard Common Lisp.
| kagevf wrote:
| Right, CLTL2 doesn't conform to the ansi spec. I just
| wonder if it's common to read all the way through, or as
| a reference _in addition_ to CLHS, to maybe get some
| additional perspective on why a feature is a certain way,
| etc ...
| nabla9 wrote:
| I also loved his C Reference manual. Dry jokes funny but
| educational examples like, this example of micro-optimization.
|
| >here is an example of how good intentions can lead to chaos:
| switch(x) default: if (prime(x))
| case 2: case 3: case 5: case 7:
| process_prime(x); else case 4:
| case 6: case 8: case 9: case 10:
| process_composite(x);
|
| >This is, frankly, the most bizarre switch statement we have
| ever seen that still pretenses to be purposeful
| [deleted]
| bsaul wrote:
| Funny how the very first sentence of the talk "i think you all
| know what a man is" would now be subject of heated discussions.
|
| oh the times they are a changin...
| tomcam wrote:
| Exquisite. Is it only my impression that beginning a presentation
| with first principles is far rarer than it used to be? It was
| both reassuring and refreshing.
|
| His spoken language goes beyond precise and into... anachronism.
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