[HN Gopher] A Dutch Village Where Everyone Has Dementia (2014)
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A Dutch Village Where Everyone Has Dementia (2014)
Author : ElFitz
Score : 35 points
Date : 2023-07-03 05:46 UTC (17 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.theatlantic.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.theatlantic.com)
| rhelz wrote:
| Now ask yourself: how do you know you are not already a resident
| of a village like that?
| zial wrote:
| Some funny math there saying it only costs $8k a month and then
| saying US costs an astonishing 90k a year. Do they realize 8*12
| is 96k a year?
| themerone wrote:
| More than half that cost is subsidized. The maximum cost to
| residents is $43k, and it is on a sliding scale based on family
| income.
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| bell-cot wrote:
| Reaction: Lovely - but the article notes that it has 152
| residents, vs. 250 full- and part-time staff. If more than a very
| small percentage of a country's older folks develop dementia, and
| the country's population is not growing exponentially...then such
| well-staffed solutions are physically impossible to implement at
| scale, for lack of working-age care staff.
| wak90 wrote:
| I don't think that's clear at all.
|
| Working age adults work from their early 20s to their 60s and
| end of life care does not typically last that long.
| EA-3167 wrote:
| EOL with dementia can linger for well over a decade, and it
| only gets more expensive as it goes on.
| Retric wrote:
| Most people don't experience dementia, and most of those
| who have it don't need such extreme care. Taken to an
| extreme, this radio suggests under 5% of a steady state
| population would either have significant dementia or need
| to treat it. But again most such people are cared for by
| family members.
|
| The point of this Village is to minimize the cost of
| treating significant outliers while maximizing their
| quality of life.
| DiggyJohnson wrote:
| So it would need to scale out to 10s of thousands, no?
| Retric wrote:
| If everyone with dementia went to such a facility then we
| would need ~30,000 of them in the US. However, most
| people with dementia either don't need such extreme care
| or have more severe medical issues, so the real number is
| probably a several hundred such facilities.
| londons_explore wrote:
| Some people with dementia get violent. I bet it isn't a pretty
| sight when a bunch of 80 year olds start fighting over who stole
| Theodore's false teeth!
| swader999 wrote:
| Or tabs versus spaces. It's best just to hide the keyboards
| after 78.
| ElFitz wrote:
| It has already been posted here before [1], but given how little
| nursing homes seem to have changed, I find it still relevant, and
| perhaps of interest to others who like me hadn't read about it
| until today.
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| [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8616383
| wdb wrote:
| There are a lot of activities organised on a city/town level by
| the Dutch Alzheimer Foundation chapters, such as Alzheimer
| Cafe, Creatieve Werkplaats, Bijzonder ontmoeten, Cooking
| Together, Choir, hiking/walking, etc
| mahathu wrote:
| That's not all, besides Alzheimer Cafe, Creatieve Werkplaats
| and Bijzonder ontmoeten, there are also Gezellige Kletsen,
| Gronkelstoot Spelletjes and Zorgzame Knoetelbijeenkomsten.
| mike_hock wrote:
| I just visited a place called "Alzheimer's Cafe," but I can't
| remember the name of the place.
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