[HN Gopher] The Liberty Phone
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       The Liberty Phone
        
       Author : Hackbraten
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2023-06-30 22:02 UTC (57 minutes ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (puri.sm)
        
       | johnea wrote:
       | > Introducing the Liberty Phone with more RAM and more drive
       | space, starting at $2199.
       | 
       | > The Liberty Phone integrates 4GB of RAM and 128GB of internal
       | storage.
       | 
       | $2200? Is this a joke? A typo?
        
         | wilsonnb3 wrote:
         | Making stuff in the US ain't cheap
        
         | ramesh31 wrote:
         | >$2200? Is this a joke? A typo?
         | 
         | At least the service is only $99/month and comes with 20GB of
         | 4G data.
        
         | tekla wrote:
         | Everyone wants to pay for US labor until the final price tag
         | appears.
        
         | imwillofficial wrote:
         | This is the actual amount stuff costs when not using babies to
         | assemble.
         | 
         | I'm cool with it
        
       | the-grump wrote:
       | https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/
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       | Quote: "All the electronics of the Liberty Phone is made in our
       | USA facility, and the entire phone is assembled in the USA"
       | 
       | Table of origin says:
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       | WiFi Card India
       | 
       | Both can't be true.
        
         | ramesh31 wrote:
         | Assembled, sure. I can promise you the chips are not being made
         | in the US.
        
       | parl_match wrote:
       | If you're wondering why it's so expensive, it's a confluence of
       | factors:
       | 
       | - Making things in the us is expensive. This isn't the root cause
       | but leads to the next point...
       | 
       | - Phones are low margin devices. Most consumers are intensely
       | price sensitive. Even if a US-made phone cost only $40 more, it'd
       | still be at a serious disadvantage.
       | 
       | - Therefore, there's no point in competing on price. The batch
       | size of this is limited. Manufacturing has limited advantage of
       | scale. They need to find another hook for value-add.
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       | - And thus, a huge part of the value add of this device is that
       | it's certified "secure", and with a traceable supply chain.
       | 
       | They will probably sell a reasonable amount of these, to
       | interested parties, but this is not likely to be a profit center
       | for them. It's marketing that furthers their "privacy/integrity"
       | branding goals, albeit marketing with a real and good product
       | behind it.
        
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