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Tkinter Designer: Quickly Turn Figma Design to Python Tkinter GUI
Author : yasoob
Score : 135 points
Date : 2023-06-29 07:55 UTC (15 hours ago)
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| samwillis wrote:
| Neat! I can see this being a useful way to build quick demos from
| a Figma design, not sure I would use it for proper apps though.
|
| If I follow correctly, it's building the whole UI from images
| from the Figma file, so isn't using any native OS styling. Thats
| fine for demos and some simple apps.
|
| It would be interesting if it was possible to combine this with
| BeeWhare [0] for mobile UIs, mobile is much more forgiving with
| none native style. I wander if it could be modified to output
| BeeWhare/Toga code.
|
| 0: https://beeware.org
| iorrus wrote:
| I find chatgpt good for this kind of simple GUI design tasks, you
| can just tell it to create a simple GUI incl drop downs etc. It
| won't be perfect but removes a lot of the tedious work.
| abdullahkhalids wrote:
| How does it compare to using code assistants AIs?
|
| I have used chatgpt a bit for coding tasks, and it is alright.
| Kind of like getting a not that smart student to do something,
| and repeatedly prodding them to do it right.
| ptx wrote:
| How do you maintain the generated code? Once you make changes
| to it, you can't regenerate it without losing the changes.
| iorrus wrote:
| I just use it to create the initial layout and then if I need
| anything additional I just ask chatgpt to create it. You
| still have to know what you're doing but I find that GUI code
| is mostly boilerplate code that is really tedious to create
| from scratch. ChatGPT is a 5x productivity boost.
| objektif wrote:
| How do you describe the overall layout to Chatgpt?
| individual components sounds simple.
| [deleted]
| wayvey wrote:
| Pretty impressive. I've never very much liked how TKinter looks
| out of the box and i didn't know it's capable custom UI visuals
| as in the examples. If tkinter looked like the OS native UI it
| would be optimal, but in my experience it mostly doesn't. Will be
| following this project for my future GUI needs in Python. Nice
| work!
| asicsp wrote:
| See also https://github.com/rdbende/Sun-Valley-ttk-theme
| (couple more themes are linked at the end of readme)
| formerly_proven wrote:
| Tkinter looks native on platforms that have native GUIs
| (Windows, macOS). On Unix you can use any of the numerous
| platform-independent (non-native) skins for Ttk:
|
| - https://ttkbootstrap.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#sample-themes
|
| - https://wiki.tcl-
| lang.org/page/List+of+ttk+Themes#60ca3eb80e...
|
| - https://ttkthemes.readthedocs.io/en/latest/themes.html
|
| The main issue with Tk/Ttk is mostly documentation and of
| course that it's a classic GUI framework, not a 3D-GPU-layer-
| based framework suitable for highly animated and composited
| UIs.
|
| There's a bunch of stuff that you really wanna know about but
| simply isn't included in the Python docs, and the real API docs
| are for Tcl and you need to understand how those tclisms map
| over to Python.
| Kwpolska wrote:
| Here's IDLE's settings window on Windows 11:
| https://i.imgur.com/DnwviOr.png
|
| Those combo boxes are definitely not native. The menus are
| also off (the menu items are shorter and they turn blue
| instead of gray when highlighted).
| aidenn0 wrote:
| IDLE uses the pre-ttk widget set and is indeed ugly.
|
| See https://tkdocs.com/tutorial/idle.html for a case-study
| involving IDLE (Search for "Another Example" to see the
| settings window). You should be able to tell from the
| windows and mac screenshots how old this article is.
| mhitza wrote:
| > The main issue with Tk/Ttk is mostly documentation and of
| course that it's a classic GUI framework, not a 3D-GPU-layer-
| based framework suitable for highly animated and composited
| UIs.
|
| That and accessibility.
| hospitalJail wrote:
| Our company made the switch to QT, dev time and code readability
| has improved, but the code runs significantly slower in debug
| mode. (Yes I know we can run headless)
|
| Sad because I learned so much tkinter, and despite that, I'm fine
| with moving away from tkinter. I'm not sure who the problem is.
| rubymamis wrote:
| Have you tried QML? My efficiency improved dramatically since
| switching from C++ Qt for the UI.
| Renaud wrote:
| Do you have to pay to license QML?
|
| Qt looks nice but license fees are pretty expensive for small
| shops.
|
| Could use the GPL version but I'm just afraid of becoming
| dependent on a tool that will keep the most interesting
| features only available for the commercial version.
| rubymamis wrote:
| Not at all! Qt comes with an LGPL version that you just
| must 1. link it dynamically and 2. If you change Qt's
| source code you need to publish the changes. (Not legal
| advice).
|
| Most of what you'll need will be under the LGPL version.
| You can use the commercial version by paying and not
| publishing your source or via the GPL license and publish
| your full source code and everything else GPL requires.
|
| I cannot recommend it more, give it a try it's easy to
| learn (I studied the basics in a day and a working
| prototype quite fast).
|
| Something I've been working on: converting Markdown text
| into a Kanban view (in QML).[1]
|
| [1] https://imgur.com/a/ht6Muh2
| Renaud wrote:
| That project looks nifty!
|
| Alright, you convinced me to give it a shot!
| hospitalJail wrote:
| We use GPL version, but its internal software that isnt
| distributed outside.
| Hrun0 wrote:
| The examples look horrible imho
| ironSkillet wrote:
| This would be a more productive comment if you could explain
| why you have this opinion.
| kristopolous wrote:
| Not the parent but the world of tk/wish used to be associated
| with this motif widget set like so
|
| https://www.hwaci.com/sw/mktclapp/xmta1.jpg
|
| It had compactness, consistency, accessibility, multi
| language built in, composability, ability for the _User_ to
| customize things like contrast and sizes, etc.
|
| Personally I was excited that maybe this would be a project
| that would get back to those sane foundations.
|
| Oh well, fuck that I guess
| fladd wrote:
| I suspect because they don't leverage the main advantage of a
| GUI toolkit: provide a coherent, familiar and proven user
| interface. These examples all look like websites and all have
| completely different styles. I can see how this fits into the
| current just-ship-a-webapp-plus-browser trend though.
| shubhamgrg04 wrote:
| It would be exciting to see future iterations of this tool
| incorporate native OS styling or even output to other GUI
| frameworks like QT or Toga.
| pzo wrote:
| Haven't tried but I think Qt Designer has already integration
| with Figma
| bilsbie wrote:
| I've always thought there's so much low hanging fruit in making
| simple interfaces easy to make.
|
| We've lost so much ground since vb6.
| simpli wrote:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36491835
| marcodiego wrote:
| https://www.lazarus-ide.org/
| anonzzzies wrote:
| Yea, it is really amazingly nice to have this. People don't
| like Pascal, even though it's a nice, readable and very fast
| language. Compile time wise, modern languages are a joke, but
| not a funny one. I can compile a million lines of pascal
| faster than updating a hello world typescript site. I have
| been looking how to add a borrow checker to fps with minimal
| damage. It seems with compiler directives it can work. The
| compiler can tell you how many frees are not guaranteed.
| lionkor wrote:
| Youll be happy to hear Delphi is still alive and well, thanks
| to Embarcadero
| tecleandor wrote:
| Well, my wallet's not that happy :D
| p_l wrote:
| More like in spite of Embarcadero...
|
| There's still Lazarus[1], and Common Lisp got CLOG [2] which
| is very much like Delphi except in the web and in Lisp
|
| [1] https://www.lazarus-ide.org/ [2]
| https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog
| KRAKRISMOTT wrote:
| https://github.com/treeform/fidget
| Waterluvian wrote:
| I've never seen License laid out in a table like this and I kinda
| love it:
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| https://github.com/ParthJadhav/Tkinter-Designer#-license
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