[HN Gopher] Visa to acquire Brazilian startup Pismo for $1bi
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       Visa to acquire Brazilian startup Pismo for $1bi
        
       Author : jeanlucas
       Score  : 47 points
       Date   : 2023-06-28 21:51 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.pismo.io)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.pismo.io)
        
       | rafaelturk wrote:
       | My take this is all about OpenPix
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | Instant payment networks are an existential crisis for legacy
         | debit and credit rails/networks.
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36012262
        
       | xyst wrote:
       | Visa just gobbling up all of their domestic and foreign
       | competitors
        
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       | seydor wrote:
       | what s the role of visa in a world where CBDCs will exist?
        
         | The28thDuck wrote:
         | There is value in stable asset management. I don't foresee a
         | future where credit-based systems are superseded by something
         | else.
        
         | MrPatan wrote:
         | Credit? It's the (non central)bank accounts what lose meaning,
         | imo
        
         | parl_match wrote:
         | A bunch:
         | 
         | - internetwork payments
         | 
         | - interbank payments
         | 
         | - fraud prevention and insurance layer
         | 
         | - retail consumer debt underwriting
         | 
         | - payments infrastructure and endpoint standards, security, and
         | deployment
         | 
         | CBDCs do take away a fair amount of responsibility from
         | existing private EFT, and I personally think can be a net
         | positive, but they're a piece of the puzzle.
        
           | josh2600 wrote:
           | Hard agree.
           | 
           | CBDCs are a substrate. There will always be integrations to
           | the substrate.
           | 
           | Ideally protocols are as simple as possible and applications
           | utilize them to build bespoke services. If the protocol
           | itself is too customizable it becomes extremely difficult to
           | interop.
        
         | arvindh-manian wrote:
         | Do you mean insofar as people will be able to pay without
         | carrying cash or using a credit card?
         | 
         | I assume reasons will be similar to why many prefer credit
         | cards to debit cards: cash flow issues, extra fraud
         | protections, creating a credit history for future loans,
         | rewards points, etc.
         | 
         | The value of debit cards will be significantly diminished,
         | though.
        
         | aidenn0 wrote:
         | How do CBDCs handle payment disputes? Aside from credit, that's
         | a big value of a card.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | notatoad wrote:
         | "a world where CBDCs will exist" could also be phrased as "a
         | world where CBDCs do not yet exist".
        
         | pbreit wrote:
         | Maybe smaller. Maybe larger. But that's a big assumption that
         | CBDCs will exist on a broad basis anytime soon.
        
         | genocidicbunny wrote:
         | Begging the question a bit aren't we with the assumption that
         | CBDCs will exist?
        
           | toolz wrote:
           | Yeah, I struggle to see how a government convinces a
           | population that they should switch to a currency where every
           | penny they spend can be traced.
        
         | Etheryte wrote:
         | For context, CBDC stands for central bank digital currency,
         | e.g. https://www.dnb.nl/en/innovations-in-payments-and-
         | banking/di...
        
         | pbarnes_1 wrote:
         | Tech is never the hard part in payments.
        
         | grantsch wrote:
         | Dude do you not have a credit or debit card?
         | 
         | Seriously asking
        
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