[HN Gopher] Stability AI Head of Research Resigns from Startup
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Stability AI Head of Research Resigns from Startup
Author : swyx
Score : 53 points
Date : 2023-06-28 20:14 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| gary_0 wrote:
| https://archive.ph/iYBLS
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| [dupe]
|
| 4th time in days
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| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36487211
| m_ke wrote:
| Judging by their glassdoor reviews they're not going to make it:
| https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Stability-AI-Reviews-E7022...
| [deleted]
| deltree7 wrote:
| [dead]
| zui wrote:
| David Ha - Head of Research -@hardmaru
|
| Ren Ito - COO
| bhouston wrote:
| Already covered yesterday:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36490215
| jeron wrote:
| posted but not really covered
| [deleted]
| JimtheCoder wrote:
| From the article...
|
| "I have Asperger's and ADHD, and I have a very definitive view of
| the future," he (Emad Mostaque, CEO) said on stage. "I think that
| shocks people because they can't deal with the exponentials."
|
| What does this even mean?
| deltree7 wrote:
| Non-Asperger people think linearly. They also need structure,
| rules and 5-year plan for their career.
| emadm wrote:
| It means I have exceptionally high confidence that this will be
| the biggest thing to hit the economy, society and markets in
| the last hundred years for good and ill.
|
| Against this there is minimal risk in obtaining large scale
| supercompute which will be a scarce asset, funding will not
| peak for a few years and there is no way to scale to meet
| demand.
|
| Almost nobody will also train their own models and open,
| auditable, models will be legally required for every
| government, regulated industries and more.
|
| My role is to allocate the compute, build the partnerships &
| gather people who believe that this technology should be
| distributed globally which is why we have a very diverse team.
|
| I am not very good with people though.
| throw14082020 wrote:
| > I am not very good with people though.
|
| It's not about being good with people. Plenty of people are
| introverts - that's fine. It's pretty important in society to
| be honest and not-fraudulent, and you've lost a lot of trust.
| It's not that you're not good with people, you're
| manipulative and people are not good with you anymore.
| https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrickcai/2023/06/04/stable-
| di...
| JimtheCoder wrote:
| Wow. He appears. Thanks for responding.
| xiphias2 wrote:
| I loved your last interview with Harry Stebbings:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4RrdKdC4v4&t=1437s
|
| I don't want to see interviews about you quitting and saving
| the world, I wanted to see how you want to make money, and
| finally this last was honest. I guess you had to be quiet
| before, but I guess we had enough ,,altruisms'' and congress
| hearings with a few Sams already.
|
| (I also have Aspergers though, so not representing most
| people)
| teknopurge wrote:
| >> Almost nobody will also train their own models ...
|
| If the value is in better training data then everyone will
| train their own models. We should have a goal where we have
| domain-specific models that make us more efficient, but also
| constantly train a context-aware model based on individuals.
| Model composition is the future.
| tomp wrote:
| > everyone will _fine-tune_ their own models
| teknopurge wrote:
| individuals / companies that cannot afford their own
| workflows will fine-tune models with heavy preexisting
| biases. The upper-class of the market will train their
| own models, producing advantaged outcomes. Data is the
| moat.
| xadhominemx wrote:
| Why is supercompute going to be a scarce asset? NVDA is going
| to sell 50 training-oriented supercomputers in the next 18
| months.
| ke88y wrote:
| The scientific vision, leadership, and work was done by other
| folks. Emad saw the opportunity but primarily contributed cash
| and connections, which in the west means he gets to control
| everything. As a result, he is currently setting a tragic
| quantity of finite resources on fire (not the least of which is
| time and human campital, and in a geopolitically important
| field).
|
| The western world desperately needs a way to do resource
| allocation that is parallel to and augments financial markets.
| History did not end, and the "joker with the most cash as
| feudal lord of an IP village" has become perhaps the largest
| existential threat to the western world.
| wskinner wrote:
| > The western world desperately needs a way to do resource
| allocation that is parallel to and augments financial
| markets.
|
| Something like a government that taxes the people and spends
| the tax revenue on stuff? In the USA, government spending
| accounts for 37% of GDP [1].
|
| The fact that some individuals can gain control over
| quantities of capital which are large in absolute terms but
| small in comparison to the total size of the economy is a
| crucial feature of this system.
|
| [1]: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-
| spendi...
| ke88y wrote:
| _> In the USA, government spending accounts for 37% of GDP_
|
| First, and most importantly, this is a critique of all
| societal institutions. I do not think that the correct
| solution is necessarily taxation and redistribution. The
| investors in Stability AI didn't _have_ to choose to
| misspend their money on an organization structured as a
| typical 20th century corporate dictatorship run by a big
| personality; they could have set up a much more effective
| structure. But they _chose_ that corporate structure and
| leadership personality type /background because our society
| is sick on a fundamental level.
|
| I would like to think financial markets are capable of
| breaking out of this insanity, but I'm extraordinarily
| skeptical.
|
| Second, almost none of that goes to R&D/innovation. The
| vast bulk of that spending goes to entitlements and
| defense. The part we do spend on science is barely enough
| to support basic science and is still embarrassingly small
| compared to other outlays. For example, we spend twice as
| much on farm subsidies (not AG total, just subsidies) as we
| do on the National Science Foundation.
|
| Third, of the part that does go toward R&D/innovation,
| almost none of it is spent on development and innovation.
| Almost all of our federal spending buckets on R&D is heavy
| on R, light on D, and "hackathon"/"pre-seed" levels of
| interest in innovation. We do not spend enough on
| R&D/innovation, and what we do spend is misallocated
| (mostly towards the goal of generating IP for Springer)
| because it is mostly allocated by folks at elite
| universities who are all friends with one another.
|
| The public sector in the west is just as broken, albiet the
| pathology presents differently.
| woooooo wrote:
| I'm with you on everything here but its not like westerners
| have a monopoly on cash/connections being paramount. It's
| been true everywhere, all the time, even in communist
| countries that are supposed to make it impossible.
| ke88y wrote:
| Agreed. I believe "competency" is orthogonal to "liberal
| constitutional-republican and/or democratic values".
|
| This is _exactly_ what I mean when I say that we are not at
| The End Of History. Western values need not necessarily win
| out. The belief in that inevitability is the source of the
| west 's sclerotic apathy, and without correction will lead
| no where good.
| jeron wrote:
| sounds like he's a micromanaging visionary with no feelings
| emadm wrote:
| Opposite actually.
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