[HN Gopher] Illegal trade in AI child sex abuse images exposed
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       Illegal trade in AI child sex abuse images exposed
        
       Author : lifeisstillgood
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2023-06-27 21:46 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | KMnO4 wrote:
       | I definitely don't support child pornography, but the quote from
       | the article:
       | 
       | > _He warned that a paedophile could, "move along that scale of
       | offending from thought, to synthetic, to actually the abuse of a
       | live child"._
       | 
       | Sounds a lot like the argument that violent video games are
       | responsible for real life shootings.
        
       | 627467 wrote:
       | At some point someone will realize that - particularly in UK -
       | the taboo, histeria and irrationally around CP is net negative
       | for actually doing good.
        
       | version_five wrote:
       | This is an attempted moral panic that while obviously disgusting
       | should be an extremely low priority in a resource constrained law
       | enforcement system. Unfortunately it gets play because it's a
       | boogeyman that people who want to control and monitor online
       | activity generally can make use of. Every cent that goes to
       | "combatting" this is one that doesn't go to solving actual
       | violent crime against kids, and in any event the whole enterprise
       | is as futile as confiscating people's colored pencils.
       | 
       | Set up a honeypot and refer people for investigation, fine. But
       | let's not waste any additional resources or destroy additional
       | freedoms for what is essentially a made up issue.
        
       | lifeisstillgood wrote:
       | How does a civilisation get to this stage. How can we glimpse
       | creation of alien intelligence and go ... you what this would be
       | good for.
       | 
       | I guess I should have allocated more of my dice rolls on
       | cynicism.
        
       | NoRelToEmber wrote:
       | The rate of rape in Japan is 1.2 per 100.000, while in the UK it
       | is 24.1 per 100.000. Pornographic fictional depictions of minors
       | are legal in Japan (in fact it is a major producer of them), but
       | illegal in the UK.
       | 
       | Same may say that sacrificing real children to the trauma of rape
       | is inhumane, but I say it is a small price to pay for protecting
       | our precious drawings. A real rape is eventually over, but a
       | drawing can last forever.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#By_country
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_porn...
        
         | aaron695 wrote:
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         | version_five wrote:
         | I think people misunderstood your post because of the sarcasm?
         | If you read the post from shadowbanned person that replied to
         | you, he seems to just reiterate your point.
        
       | LinuxBender wrote:
       | Is this realistic enough yet that it could deprecate careers held
       | by the likes of Ghislaine Maxwell? Could intelligence agencies
       | now target someone and select a child in their proximity or
       | family circle, click a button and blackmail/destroy that person?
       | What details would _AI_ always get wrong?
        
         | soligern wrote:
         | Of course it's good enough. Have you seen the stuff Midjourney
         | can generate?
        
           | LinuxBender wrote:
           | It's realistic in the sense they look human but could it be
           | realistic in enough detail that if a child was sitting at the
           | desk of an investigator and they were watching the evidence,
           | would they be convinced it is the child sitting at their desk
           | and the _perp_ they just locked up?
        
         | secfirstmd wrote:
         | You could do that with Photoshop already.
         | 
         | Blackmail as an intelligence recruitment technique, especially
         | with something so fake, is really very limited in it's utility.
        
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