[HN Gopher] 'I don't want to become San Francisco': Urban woes s...
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'I don't want to become San Francisco': Urban woes spur state
action on housing
Author : imichael
Score : 35 points
Date : 2023-06-27 18:44 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| yieldcrv wrote:
| > "Every state in the country other than California is saying, 'I
| don't want to become California,' and every other city is like,
| 'I don't want to become San Francisco,'"
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| including cities in Socal
|
| love this, never change SF, zoning reform (everywhere else) needs
| you
| belval wrote:
| Imagine a reputation (real or imagined) so bad that everyone sees
| you as a cautionary tale.
| 8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote:
| Is it simply the case of the majority of SF voters, who somehow
| locked in real estate years ago, not wanting to increase supply
| of housing in order to maximize their own wealth? Could one argue
| that this is democracy working as intended, even if you don't
| think it's "fair" to certain demographics?
| ronsor wrote:
| Their wealth will minimize when nobody wants to live there
| anymore. Homes are only as valuable as there people willing to
| buy them.
| 8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote:
| It's true, but what's the political solution to this short of
| ignoring what your demos wants? Where do you draw the line as
| far as overriding what the votes are telling you? It's one
| thing when there's an autocratic central planner thinking 100
| years into the future (with all of the dangers or a wise
| benevolent dictator), and another when society moves one
| electoral cycle at a time.
| wnc3141 wrote:
| I would hope their maximization includes other benefits of
| living in a community such as presence of arts, local
| restaurants, school teachers and first responders without
| commute induced burnout etc.
| 8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote:
| It doesn't seem that things have gotten bad enough that those
| services are no longer available and real-estate owners are
| impacted by it.
|
| Yes, teachers have to commute from out of town, but this
| doesn't affect the local residents just yet, from what I can
| tell, the educators are there when you need them, maybe
| thanks to higher-paying private schools.
|
| The restaurant scene is still strong, prices are through the
| roof as always and people can afford it just fine.
|
| First responder salaries are pretty good as well, although
| there are plenty of vacancies:
| https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/san-
| francisco/?pa...
|
| I don't see how the current status quo will change anytime
| soon given that the residents don't feel that impacted
| besides the inconvenience of not being able to shop on Market
| St anymore.
| BenFranklin100 wrote:
| It's good some cities are looking towards reform, but I disagree
| with thesis Democrat cities across the US see San Francisco as a
| cautionary tale. Heavy Democratic areas like Boston metro are
| stuck in the 1990s. Mayor Michelle Wu is proposing rent control
| and other MA cities are maintaining onerous inclusionary zoning
| regs that stifle new construction.
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