[HN Gopher] Only VIPs will be allowed to drink alcohol inside Pa...
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       Only VIPs will be allowed to drink alcohol inside Paris 2024
       Olympics venues
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 41 points
       Date   : 2023-06-27 18:42 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.france24.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.france24.com)
        
       | kalupa wrote:
       | guess everyone else will just get trashed before they go in, or,
       | more likely do their best effort to sneak in bottles of wine
        
         | burnished wrote:
         | Honestly even if the goal was to deter problematic levels of
         | public drunkenness then that would work just fine. You probably
         | won't be let in if you show up belligerent, and the combined
         | pressures on volume and evidence usually means that people
         | sneaking in drink don't become problematic.
        
       | burnished wrote:
       | Looks like it is against french law to serve alcohol in stadiums
       | - the article doesn't say outright, but they mention that
       | catering can offer alcohol as part of their duties so it appears
       | the reason VIPs can drink is due to being at a catered event.
       | 
       | Yeah, that is a bit shit, but the problem appears to be that the
       | law carves a loophole out that only the wealthy execute on. I
       | don't know though, I live far away and I have only heard about
       | sports hooliganism, maybe it just genuinely makes sense. I'm
       | having a hard time imagining a catered event getting overly rowdy
        
       | engineer_22 wrote:
       | > Under Evin's Law, which has been in place since 1991, alcohol
       | is banned from sale to the general public inside stadiums in
       | France, and Games organisers had not sought an exemption, a Paris
       | 2024 spokesperson told Reuters.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_%C3%89vin
       | 
       | Edit: in USA we usually name a law against someone who died, but
       | in this case it's named after the man who proposed it.
        
         | SllX wrote:
         | We do the same. The "Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002" is
         | more commonly known as "McCain-Feingold".
        
           | tesseract wrote:
           | In "The X Act" X is usually a politician who sponsored it,
           | but in "X's Law" X is very often a crime or accident victim
           | being honored/memorialized.
        
       | onetokeoverthe wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | boeingUH60 wrote:
       | Well, the unwashed masses cannot handle themselves after several
       | shots.../s
        
         | EA-3167 wrote:
         | Yes, but without the /s, as decades of hooliganism, riots and
         | racist bs have shown again and again.
        
           | boeingUH60 wrote:
           | I actually agree, lol
        
         | trgdr wrote:
         | This doesn't really bother me. My experience at football games
         | tells me that, regardless of socioeconomic stature, no one
         | really handles themselves well at sporting events after a few
         | shots.
         | 
         | It's not too hard to keep a small number of people from causing
         | chaos, but security presence costs money. Seems logical that
         | VIPs would spend enough to make the security presence net
         | profitable.
         | 
         | In a perfect world, we could either trust everyone to behave or
         | we could afford to put security everywhere to enforce it, but
         | we don't live in a perfect world.
        
           | binaryblitz wrote:
           | This is kinda my thought too.
           | 
           | You can also look at it as a "perk" of the more expensive
           | ticket. First class passengers on an airplane are the only
           | ones that get a full meal on most domestic air travel. How is
           | this different?
        
             | filoleg wrote:
             | > First class passengers on an airplane are the only ones
             | that get a full meal on most domestic air travel. How is
             | this different?
             | 
             | Why go to meal comparisons instead of something more
             | directly relevant? First class passengers get unlimited
             | free alcohol (same with Comfort+ and above on Delta and
             | many other airlines too), and economy class has to pay per-
             | drink.
             | 
             | Part of the reason I feel like a meal analogy is not good
             | is because it varies heavily per airline and per flight
             | distance.
        
       | wolpoli wrote:
       | > an exemption isn't really possible in the Olympics case
       | (because there are so many events) without a change in the law
       | 
       | What confuses me is why the organizers couldn't seek a change in
       | the law. The Olympics is a big enough deal that they could seek
       | an exemption. When we hosted the Olympics, I remember they had
       | special laws written specifically for the games.
        
       | hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
       | Fuck these BS click-bait titles that are really just designed to
       | enrage.
       | 
       | The article explains it, that stadiums are prohibited from
       | serving alcohol by French law, and an exemption isn't really
       | possible in the Olympics case (because there are so many events)
       | without a change in the law.
       | 
       | Drinking at catered events or indoors isn't covered by the
       | stadium law, so drinking is allowed there.
        
         | PeterStuer wrote:
         | Are the VIP boxes in the stadia 'catered events'?
        
           | reaperman wrote:
           | European aristocrats won't let technicalities curtail their
           | entertainment. If needed, the laws/regulations will be
           | changed, but there's no way there's going to be any
           | enforcement of discrepancies anyways.
           | 
           | What's somewhat more surprising is that they're not calling
           | the whole of the olympics "catered" to earn a bit more
           | revenue from alcohol sales. However, this should push
           | visitors towards local establishments, which might be great
           | for the lower rungs of the economy vs. giving that business
           | to whoever wins a unified contract for the Olympics.
        
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