[HN Gopher] MS Admits Xbox Has 'Lost the Console Wars', Battles ...
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       MS Admits Xbox Has 'Lost the Console Wars', Battles for $69B
       Activision Buyout
        
       Author : indigodaddy
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2023-06-22 20:36 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | PaulHoule wrote:
       | Go to Gamestop and look at what is for sale for the XBOX ONE and
       | it is sad. Most of the big games are on both, the exclusives for
       | PS5 are better (... all the more so since I am a weeaboo) and
       | XBOX some how gave up on Halo for the utterly meh _Gears of War_
       | which isn't half as entertaining as Sony's _Killzone_ series.
       | 
       | Maybe Microsoft should reconsider if it really wants to make a
       | game console.
        
         | lockhouse wrote:
         | Not sure why you got downvoted. The only strong exclusives Xbox
         | has are Halo, Gears of War, Forza (which IMHO is actually
         | better than Gran Turismo, especially the Forza Horizon series),
         | and Flight Simulator. Meanwhile the PS5 has over a dozen
         | incredible exclusives.
        
         | budlit3 wrote:
         | [dead]
        
       | suff wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | nathants wrote:
       | fortnite only kind of works on console at 120fps and high
       | graphics.
       | 
       | everyone is on pc at 240 fps and performance graphics.
        
         | paulddraper wrote:
         | > 240 fps
         | 
         | Okay that seems beyond unnecessary.
        
           | nathants wrote:
           | a lot of people are using 360 fps now, which may actually be
           | unnecessary.
           | 
           | playing on 240 feels extremely different. it's about how the
           | occasional rapid movement feels. spinning around, or making a
           | series of edits in a fight.
           | 
           | in a typical interactive movie type game with a controller,
           | the maximum delta-v of camera or character is very low.
           | 
           | in fortnite with a 24x48 inch mousepad, delta-v peaks pretty
           | high, and when frame time goes above 4ms, you notice.
        
       | shortcake27 wrote:
       | I find this surprising - since getting onto Gamepass I rarely
       | even touch my PlayStation. PS Plus a joke in comparison.
        
         | iamcasen wrote:
         | My step-son insisted on an Xbox S because he plays only
         | Gamepass games. He is 11, and all his friends have Xbox's as
         | well. Being a die-hard Playstation guy (in a former life) I was
         | confused, since Playstation seems so much better.
         | 
         | I do agree that Microsoft's software is a better experience
         | than PSN, and cloud gaming via Gamepass is quite cool.
        
       | gloryjulio wrote:
       | Aand that's no one else's fault. Ms has been failing to publish
       | good games for a couple of years.
        
       | JustBreath wrote:
       | Where are they getting 16% marketshare from? What's
       | Sony/Nintendo's?
       | 
       | Stats I read online paint a similar Sony(1st), Nintendo(2nd),
       | Microsoft(3rd) picture but put it more like 45%, 28%, 25%,
       | meaning MS has hardly "lost", but rather is just in third place.
        
         | rfwhyte wrote:
         | I'd gladly take the L if it meant having a quarter share of a
         | multi-hundred-billion a year industry.
        
         | lockhouse wrote:
         | That's very misleading though. Nintendo is in a very different
         | market segment. They basically sit in the space between
         | Xbox/Playstation and iPhone/Android mobile gaming. The N64 was
         | the last console they made that attempted to compete on
         | performance.
         | 
         | When you take Nintendo out of the picture and look strictly at
         | Sony and Microsoft, the numbers look so much worse for
         | Microsoft. Unless they can score some important exclusives, I
         | just don't see them continuing to produce future generations of
         | game consoles. So all of you fighting this merger, I hope that
         | you enjoy your Sony game console monopoly.
        
           | worrycue wrote:
           | > The N64 was the last console they made that attempted to
           | compete on performance.
           | 
           | Should that be the GameCube? It's successor the Wii was went
           | they stopped trying to keep up tech-wise.
        
       | pier25 wrote:
       | The war isn't over though. Starfield is going to sell a bunch of
       | xbox consoles.
        
         | proc0 wrote:
         | Agreed, but they're too far behind. Japan is just too good at
         | making video games, and in part I blame the attitude towards
         | video games in the West (mostly US and UK).
        
         | shortcake27 wrote:
         | I'm super excited for Starfield. I've been waiting for a worthy
         | successor to Freelancer for 20 years and it finally looks like
         | this is it.
        
       | devnull255 wrote:
       | Has Halo and Master Chief appeared on any of the other consoles
       | in the contest? No? Then the war is far from over.
        
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