[HN Gopher] Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddit...
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       Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing
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       Author : stalfosknight
       Score  : 69 points
       Date   : 2023-06-15 22:38 UTC (21 minutes ago)
        
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       | Fauntleroy wrote:
       | The argument for leaving Reddit for good improves daily.
        
       | flutas wrote:
       | Ah, the rare triple down.
       | 
       | Funnily enough, the whole thing was posted because a mod of a
       | dead-ish sub (last post was a week ago, 9 posts including one
       | about shutting down in the last month) was complaining that it
       | was "clearly harming the community."
        
       | ardit33 wrote:
       | Sorry... but this was handled very poorly by reddit and its CEO.
       | 
       | Should have just disabled the 'go private' option. A subreddit,
       | is not 'owned' or property of a moderator.
       | 
       | Eg, https://www.reddit.com/r/Brooklyn/, should not be own by one
       | person that decides what to do. The questions and answers are
       | made by common people that want to see their content that they
       | posted into the subreddit. They are not property of some
       | anonymous mod/editor but belong to the community.
       | 
       | As a user of reddit, my relationship is with reddit and not some
       | primadona mod who decides to deprive the community out of vital
       | information.
        
       | yk wrote:
       | Thing is, I am much more loyal to the mods of my favorite subs,
       | then I'm to reddit. And my guess is, that is the case with a lot
       | of the power users.
        
       | rychco wrote:
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       | wilg wrote:
       | The only way this is fair is if they just end private subreddits
       | entirely. Otherwise the rationale is very thin.
        
       | Havoc wrote:
       | Ah the classic beatings will continue until morale improves
       | approach.
       | 
       | Starting to think Reddit leadership is genuinely not all that
       | sharp
        
       | voisin wrote:
       | Remove them all the way to Lemmy.
        
       | donutshop wrote:
       | What's the end game here for reddit? There's no way this would
       | end well.
        
         | satellites wrote:
         | 1. Replace the protesting mods with new ones who don't care
         | about 3rd party apps
         | 
         | 2. Continue making Reddit more addictive and user-hostile,
         | attracting casual browsers and alienating super users (who they
         | don't care about anyway)
         | 
         | 3. Cash checks from advertisers and VCs who like the new
         | strategy
         | 
         | 4. IPO
         | 
         | 5. Eventually lose relevance and get replaced by the next
         | fledgling community forum site before that, too, gets hollowed
         | out by VC money
        
         | FormerBandmate wrote:
         | They remove the moderators and replace them with different
         | moderator, then hope that people don't care and stay on the
         | site like what happened with Twitter. It could happen, the main
         | Reddit alternatives seem to be actively trying to keep most
         | users out of the site with archaic interfaces and site
         | owner/moderator drama
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | Some small percentage of Reddit mods and users quit in disgust,
         | some come back, and the rest of the normies hang around until
         | it inevitably dies post-IPO.
        
         | secondcoming wrote:
         | I honestly don't think this will affect reddit that much.
         | 
         | I find the whole thing quite annoying, to be honest, and I
         | imagine I'm not alone.
         | 
         | Unhappy mods are free to leave, there's no need to pull the rug
         | from under everyone else who doesn't care.
         | 
         | I don't need yet another thing to log in to.
         | 
         | I'll only stop using reddit if they get rid of old.reddit.com.
        
         | NoMoreNicksLeft wrote:
         | What would be a "not well ending"?
         | 
         | This is like a farmer's livestock protesting. At best when the
         | hogs are marching around with their picket signs it's
         | irritating. Most of the time it's just comical. By the end of
         | the week, they'll still be pork chops.
         | 
         | The last 10 years of reddit history has been the mods teaching
         | everyone that they're not special and no one will miss them.
         | Now that the admins have turned around and say that the same
         | rule still applies to the mods and even "everyone as a
         | whole"... people are shaking they're heads and whining "no,
         | you're wrong, we are important".
         | 
         | But the reddit IPO will go through, spez will be a billionaire,
         | and a bunch of strangers will be moderating that subreddit you
         | thought was so awesome. Which will be full of cat pictures and
         | facebook memes, and the comments will be five thousand deep
         | nested reply chains of bad pop culture jokes.
        
         | iguana_lawyer wrote:
         | Why does it need to end well?
        
         | clnq wrote:
         | What do you mean? How can this end poorly? Most people browsing
         | Reddit are addicted with no viable substitutes. Breaking their
         | addiction through continued blackouts would end badly.
         | Replacing some mods no user cares about will hardly have an
         | impact.
         | 
         | Lets be realistic.
        
           | spondylosaurus wrote:
           | Replacing these volunteer moderators with paid moderators is
           | obviously not in the cards, which can only mean Reddit wants
           | to replace these volunteer moderators with other volunteer
           | moderators. Assuming anyone volunteers in the first place.
           | 
           | Given that moderation is a thankless (and, in this case,
           | unpaid) job, do you really think that many people with good
           | intentions are stepping forward to take on that
           | responsibility? Or is Reddit accidentally gonna recruit a
           | bunch of trolls who turn r/apple into a hentai and piracy
           | forum?
        
       | ChildOfChaos wrote:
       | Sounds good, they should ban the moderators that are ruining the
       | communities.
        
       | gareth_untether wrote:
       | Another day and another nail in another awesome online community
       | that has terrible leadership. Where will the communities move to?
       | What new areas of the Internet will be created?
        
         | shivy wrote:
         | https://kbin.social is a great alternative from what I can see.
         | https://kbin.social/m/apple is already thriving, as is
         | https://kbin.social/m/programming
        
           | simlevesque wrote:
           | > https://kbin.social/m/apple is already thriving
           | 
           | There were 2 posts in the last 24 hours. It's not thriving by
           | any measure.
        
         | brucethemoose2 wrote:
         | Discord, where everything will be siloed off and then
         | enshittified again :(
        
         | jpcfl wrote:
         | This reminds me of the Great Digg Migration.
         | 
         | If there was ever a time to promote Mastadon, it's now.
        
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