[HN Gopher] WebStudio: Open visual development for the open web
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       WebStudio: Open visual development for the open web
        
       Author : nateb2022
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2023-06-15 19:56 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (webstudio.is)
 (TXT) w3m dump (webstudio.is)
        
       | Solvency wrote:
       | So, another Framer.com.
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | joshmarinacci wrote:
       | What do they mean by 'Open' if it's a service?
        
         | mthoms wrote:
         | It's open source. You can self-host it.
        
           | pryelluw wrote:
           | Doesn't say much how. And it mentions docker but doesn't
           | mention anything about running the docker image.
        
             | modeless wrote:
             | Good thing you can pay them to take care of those things if
             | you don't want to invest effort in finding out for
             | yourself.
        
         | naavis wrote:
         | As far as I can tell, it is also a desktop application, and the
         | source code is available on Github:
         | https://github.com/webstudio-is/webstudio-builder
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         | On the main website you can scroll down to the bottom and click
         | Download.
        
       | m00x wrote:
       | There are so many website builders out there, I'm surprised
       | someone made yet another one. This basically looks like webflow.
        
         | mthoms wrote:
         | According to their blog, the main developer used to work for
         | Webflow. They wanted to start fresh because of some technical
         | debt that Webflow (apparently) has.
        
       | 28304283409234 wrote:
       | Ah Dreamweaver. You just won't die, will you.
        
         | stayux wrote:
         | Thanks for posting it:)
        
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       | morgango wrote:
       | I downloaded it, looks slick. Can I use standard frameworks like
       | Bootstrap with this? Also, any docs?
        
         | Cthulhu_ wrote:
         | If you're using a design tool to build your website... why
         | would you need bootstrap? If you use a tool, the implementation
         | details shouldn't matter much to you, just the process and
         | final product.
        
           | TeMPOraL wrote:
           | Wish that was the case in general, but it isn't. The
           | implementation details matter, because:
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           | - There may be other tools better at specific aspects of the
           | product, which you may want to include in the process;
           | 
           | - Special case of the above, the design tool may not carry
           | you 100% of the way, and you don't want the tool to become an
           | anchor at that point;
           | 
           | - There may be other people working on the product, using
           | different tools;
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           | - There is lots of ready-made stuff that can be plugged in to
           | your product to enhance or prettify or optimize it - provided
           | it's compatible with common standards at the implementation
           | level.
        
           | morgango wrote:
           | I am just fine with the look and feel of bootstrap. Visual
           | tools are great for prototyping and for dealing with fiddly
           | bits like layouts.
           | 
           | Why would I want to be constrained to plain HTML when there
           | are pre-made toolkits out there that do it for me? I don't
           | want to figure out how to do rounded corners in CSS, but I
           | would like to have a GUI that shows me how it looks on a
           | page.
        
             | singpolyma3 wrote:
             | ... you know rounded corners are built in to CSS right?
             | There's no arcane knowledge there. Bit of an odd example
        
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