[HN Gopher] A New GraalVM Release and New Free License
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       A New GraalVM Release and New Free License
        
       Author : fniephaus
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2023-06-13 16:05 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | re-thc wrote:
       | > Oracle GraalVM
       | 
       | Is this basically GraalVM EE released for free under a "limited"
       | license?
       | 
       | Until Oracle changes the terms on you...
        
         | fniephaus wrote:
         | The GFTC [1] is a new license for GraalVM modelled on Oracle
         | JDK's successful NFTC [2] license which was launched in 2021.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.oracle.com/downloads/licenses/graal-free-
         | license... [2] https://www.oracle.com/downloads/licenses/no-
         | fee-license.htm...
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | Reubend wrote:
       | Their licensing is pretty confusing to me. Seems like you can now
       | use the Enterprise edition under a custom license. I'm not a
       | lawyer, but the new license lets you
       | 
       | > internally use the unmodified Programs for the purposes of
       | developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating your
       | applications, and running the Program for Your own personal use
       | or internal business operations
       | 
       | I would be pretty hesitant to use this without consulting a
       | lawyer first. It's doesn't allow external usage, but the license
       | doesn't clarify what's defined as internal vs external usage.
        
       | tiffanyh wrote:
       | > _Oracle grants to You, as a recipient of this Program, subject
       | to the conditions stated herein, a nonexclusive, nontransferable,
       | limited license to:
       | 
       | (a) internally use the unmodified Programs for the purposes of
       | developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating your
       | applications, and running the Program for Your own personal use
       | or internal business operations; and (b) redistribute the
       | unmodified Program and Program Documentation, under the terms of
       | this License, provided that You do not charge Your licensees any
       | fees associated with such distribution or use of the Program,
       | including, without limitation, fees for products that include or
       | are bundled with a copy of the Program or for services that
       | involve the use of the distributed Program._
       | 
       | License question ...
       | 
       | Does (b) before mean you can't use Graal for a paid SaaS
       | offering?
       | 
       | I see you're granted rights for internal usage from (a).
       | 
       | But external usage seems to imply your bundled offering cannot
       | cost the customer anything.
       | 
       | Am I wrongly reading the license grant above?
        
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