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Show HN: Hacker News Summary - Let ChatGPT Summarize Hacker News
for You
Author : changxin
Score : 85 points
Date : 2023-06-09 16:20 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (hackernews.betacat.io)
(TXT) w3m dump (hackernews.betacat.io)
| bitshiftfaced wrote:
| By prompting differently, you can get it to avoid the "The
| article discusses..." and "The author discusses...".
| gnfargbl wrote:
| This is obviously a neat project, and I'm excited to see it.
| But... I spent a couple of minutes scrolling through the
| summarised posts and my main takeaway was that it was _extremely
| boring_ compared to the normal experience of reading HN. Instead
| of dipping in and out of content, finding interesting nuggets and
| jumping around between topics, this felt like listening to
| someone read out the football scores.
| wfhBrian wrote:
| Similarly, I spend much more time reading HN comments than the
| articles themselves.
|
| I made this little ChatGPT prompt for analyzing the
| comments[1][2].
|
| But, I'm still here reading comments. I guess there are just
| some things AI can't replace... yet?
|
| [1] video workflow of how I use the prompt on mobile
| https://twitter.com/wfhbrian/status/1663305398084837376?s=20
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| [2] share link for the prompt
| https://chat.openai.com/share/df861f21-5cf2-43e0-b519-a06781...
| changxin wrote:
| Understood, currently this project only focuses on articles -
| for fast scanning. Will take comments into consideration in
| my next step - it's comments that link users.
| matzf wrote:
| Maybe we could use this approach to revive the n-gate instead.
| I'd enjoy their take on this idea.
|
| > An imternet uses OpenAI (business model: "Uber for plagiarism")
| to help hacker news to incorrect eachother about a topic without
| having to read TFA.
| pknerd wrote:
| A few things in mind which I want to implement but can't because
|
| - there is no concept of "Sandbox" by OpenAI. - Trial period
| starts since the day I signed up on OpenAI rather than from the
| day I created my API Key.
| amelius wrote:
| Would love to have this as a default first comment in HN (with
| recognizable marking of course).
| robblbobbl wrote:
| This is really useful, thank you.
| stingrae wrote:
| Nice. I also wrote a version of this (well chatgpt wrote it). I
| just use it: https://hn-glance.raemond.com/
| changxin wrote:
| Cheers, we have the same idea. Is your project open source now?
| iamflimflam1 wrote:
| So weird, I was thinking of building this exact same thing a
| couple of weeks ago.
| bguberfain wrote:
| I like the experience of using this tool, but did not work for
| paywalls. For WSJ, it generated a summary of its pricing offer.
| Zetice wrote:
| If you could find a way to summarize the comments too, that would
| be a huge win IMO.
|
| Either way, very cool.
| changxin wrote:
| Planing the feature... I thought at least we can summarize some
| top comments and find their sentiments.
| foobarqux wrote:
| Much more useful to me would be to pull out the comments that
| have actual informational content. Most comments are upvoted
| just because they express sentiments that people agree with.
| hackernewds wrote:
| There is a lot of competing sentiments in comments. Unlikely to
| work as a summary
| tnffhjiuddsg wrote:
| You can already do it by typing the url in aisearch.vip
|
| One caveat is that the comments thread has to have already
| been indexed
|
| Example: https://www.aisearch.vip/aisearch?q=Https://news.yco
| mbinator...
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| n-gate never got it wrong tho. I think the secret ingredient
| is contempt.
| Zetice wrote:
| Why wouldn't it just describe the competition of sentiment if
| there was one?
|
| Edit:
|
| > Zetice starts off by suggesting the value of being able to
| summarize comments, positing it as a significant improvement
| to an unspecified system or feature. They further posit that
| such a summary could encapsulate the variety and contention
| of sentiments found within a thread.
|
| > In response, hackernewds expresses skepticism about the
| feasibility of such a task. They argue that the diversity and
| conflict of opinions often found in comments would make it
| difficult to produce an effective summary.
|
| > Zetice counters this viewpoint by asking why a summary
| couldn't reflect the existence of this diversity or conflict
| of sentiment if that is a prevailing characteristic of the
| comments in question.
|
| Seems fine to me, in principle. Would be nice to abbreviate
| further but that's just prompt engineering.
| changxin wrote:
| Also open source at: https://github.com/polyrabbit/hacker-news-
| digest/
| superasn wrote:
| I wrote a tampermonkey script(1) so you don't have to navigate
| away and it shows you summary and takeaways right inside hacker
| news (2) div boxes, but i was using kagi.com/v1/summarization for
| the api which is now dead.
|
| But this is the perfect fit for it as I see you have created
| services for extraction and summarisation which can be easily
| self hosted and turned into apis.
|
| (1) https://gist.github.com/san-
| kumar/b3604ca40905556b4135fee64e... (2)
| https://imgur.com/a/kRUkn6g
| changxin wrote:
| Ah, I may consider selling an api service, for extraction(by
| Python script) and summarization(by OpenAI)...
| jader201 wrote:
| Interesting, but I find much more value from discussion rather
| than the article itself.
|
| Would be interesting to see how much value I'd get from a ChatGPT
| summary of the discussion rather than/in addition to the article.
| I could see that being much less "sterile" as well.
| meghan_rain wrote:
| lmao this has the potential to reduce the time i waste
| doomscrolling HN posts like "is coffee good for you?" by 90%.
|
| thanks a lot!
|
| imagine having this for other social media: "elon musk is
| trolling and a skater falls on a banana"
|
| i would get so much time back
| changxin wrote:
| NP, that also the reason I started the project - to reduce my
| time on HN posts
| eterps wrote:
| Very cool, would be nice if the most relevant image would be
| picked though (which usually isn't a logo).
| changxin wrote:
| Yes, this is a remaining issue for this project. I need another
| AI service to understand images.
| hall0ween wrote:
| How are the summaries scored for accuracy/performance/etc.?
| Solvency wrote:
| What I've been dreaming of is a "podcast" generated for a day of
| HN, but focusing on the comments and conversations.
|
| I come here for the convos. But I also commute in a car, and I
| exercise with headphones.
|
| I want like a radio show made of segments. Each segment is a post
| with the best conversations between users. Use a generative Ai
| voice service (like Coqui), and have it speak the comments aloud.
|
| Then I can listen to interesting chatter through my headphones.
| hyferg wrote:
| Hey, we're working on this!
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| https://pgpod.com/
|
| You have to add articles yourself and it does not have any
| special logic for HN threads yet.
| bckmn wrote:
| You may learn something from my experience building the same
| thing: https://www.joshbeckman.org/narro/
| hyferg wrote:
| Thanks, this is very valuable. I sent an email.
| Solvency wrote:
| This is very cool, for sure. But what I'm looking for is
| something that is super optimized for threaded conversations,
| like this site. Imagine if each poster were a unique voice,
| and the format was basically listening to all of the top
| conversations for a given post, in a way that makes it easy
| to follow the conversation and back-and-forth from the
| threads. There would clearly need to be a little bit of
| design applied and some simplification, but I think that's
| where some GPT element could come into create a simplified
| conversation with a condensed amount of speakers.
| hyferg wrote:
| Interesting, I think the point about processing with GPT is
| important. Our thing started as naive narration but many
| articles are hard to follow when simply narrated.
| jonas-w wrote:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34990229
| zigh wrote:
| Do you know how this site works? and it seems stopped
| updating.
| changxin wrote:
| AI is refactoring everything
| platzhirsch wrote:
| This is very cool, I have worked on a similar project, but
| haven't managed to take the time to finish & launch it. Some food
| for thought:
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| I was interested in being able to scroll Hacker News but instead
| of opening the article open the summary. It would be as
| interesting to read a summary of the discussion below.
|
| Ideally, it's possible to easily get to the real thing. This way
| you can decide what's interesting to dive into deeper and where
| it's good to get an idea of the TL;DR: even if it might not be
| accurate which is the next interesting point of contention that
| would be interesting to drill further down.
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