[HN Gopher] Mechanical Apple Watch from real e-waste Apple Watch
___________________________________________________________________
Mechanical Apple Watch from real e-waste Apple Watch
Author : zdw
Score : 530 points
Date : 2023-06-08 21:48 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.instructables.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.instructables.com)
| fdye wrote:
| Wish this was for sale... shut up and take my money!
| dhosek wrote:
| If you have more money than you know what to do with, there's
| always this: https://www.exquisitetimepieces.com/watch-
| brands/h-moser/swi...
| fdye wrote:
| Good lord, $26.4K. Yeah not quite car-level worth it to me,
| although I'm sure they are very nice. Was thinking like
| $250-300, for a sort of anti-tech punk thing at tech parties.
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| I've had a lot of people asking...
| batch12 wrote:
| Is it tacky that I want to do this with the guts of a Casio F91W
| or the CA-53W? Perhaps.
|
| https://www.casio.com/us/watches/casio/product.CA-53W-1/
| jansan wrote:
| The world is still waiting for a CA-53W backlight mod. Some
| rdditor seems to be working on it.
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/casio/comments/12qplk8/ca53w_leds_m...
| nehal3m wrote:
| I had an F91W strap break on me. I replaced it with an A168 and
| printed a handlebar mount for my motorcycle (which didn't come
| with a clock in the dash):
|
| https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2935032
| throwaway14356 wrote:
| i wonder what the list of functions that can be done mechanicaly
| would look like. Can one say measure heart rate or say log
| something, can it do radio? etc
| WWLink wrote:
| That's really cool :D
| stuff4ben wrote:
| This is actually a pretty nifty business idea. All of these
| unsupported watches just going to landfills could be recycled
| into analogue movements. I have a series 3 that Apple no longer
| supports just sitting around. I don't have the time or patience
| to do what the OP did, but I'd gladly pay $50 to not chuck it in
| the trash.
| sschueller wrote:
| The Tag Heuer Connected first generation offered a "connected to
| eternity" program where after the guarantee (2 years?) you where
| able to convert the watch to an analog movement but it was
| another $1500... I am not sure if they still do it, they seem to
| offer a trade in program to get the newest version instead now.
|
| [1] https://forum.watchlounge.com/index.php?thread/240000-was-
| wu...
| smitty1e wrote:
| Want! #TakeMyMoneyGifGoesHere
| Gigachad wrote:
| Epic meme sir. Updoots.
| dylan604 wrote:
| "One of them even worked in the end, it just took a couple hours
| to update!"
|
| To the annoyance of every watch owner out there.
| alexjplant wrote:
| This is incredible... hats off to the maker. That being said I
| really wish that the Chinese ETA 2824-2 clone that is the PT5000
| would see more action in place of Seiko movements. It's more
| accurate, runs at 4Hz, and isn't too far off in terms of cost
| (last I checked - I could be wrong as regards bulk orders). Then
| again I don't know whether it can be modded to be "open heart" a
| la the NH38 so it might not have been appropriate for this
| project in particular.
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| Damn yeah, you guys are all on the money. I was thinking of an
| ETA clone or Sellita. As well as the Miyota 90S5 which was a
| really odd pick from ghostganz because I don't think its that
| popular of a movement. But I was looking at it as I had 0.5mm
| less height than Seiko's recommended minimum height within the
| case, and the 90S5 was much thinner. Ended up with the NH38
| anyway because I was really REALLY unsure if I could even get
| this to work so it was a lower monetary investment. And, the
| stem shape worked for the weirdo linkages I made, because the
| linkage I made is technically within the footprint of all those
| movements.
| ghostganz wrote:
| The 90S5 is basically the very popular 9015 but with a big
| hole in it. :)
| sdrothrock wrote:
| I was thinking that about the movement too -- or you could go
| for a Miyota/Citizen, the high-beat (28800) movements were
| around $70-80 on ebay the last time I checked.
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| And had to be open heart 1. because I liked how the mockup I
| did looked with an open heart and 2. because any more stem
| positions for different complication settings would have made
| my life a lot harder with getting the button/crown to work
| ghostganz wrote:
| The Miyota 90S5 would work, it is cheap and "open heart".
| jacquesm wrote:
| Fantastic hack, I love repurposing junked stuff. Question (which
| I don't doubt has crossed your mind but I can't figure it out):
| why not rotate the movement, rotate the dial back (it has no
| complications so that shouldn't be a real issue) and then use a
| flex shaft for the crown?
| JohnBooty wrote:
| I absolutely love this.
|
| I think a lot of techie types might not realize what an
| engineering marvel a mechanical watch movement is. I'm sure you
| all realize there are a lot of teeny tiny gears.
|
| But does the HN crowd realize there are 24 precious gems (lab-
| grown rubies and sapphires!!!!) inside the NH38 movement, serving
| as bearings and such?
|
| While the Apple Watch is in some ways orders of magnitude more
| advanced than a mechanical watch movement, in some ways the
| _mechanical watch movement_ is more impressive. It could be
| argued that while the Apple Watch is the sum of roughly 100 years
| of electrical engineering, the mechanical watch is the sum of
| several thousands of years of mechanical engineering. It took
| mankind an incredible number of years to really master
| timekeeping to that level.
|
| (Not that the two are mutually exclusive. I find that the more I
| understand electronic timekeeping, the more I appreciate
| mechanical timekeeping, and vice-versa)
| botverse wrote:
| Many maybe don't, but also many of the techie types I know
| tinker with mechanical watches, bicycles, combustion engines,
| etc. And I think more than the average!
| wjnc wrote:
| It is a tiny loss to my life that my mechanical watch lies in a
| cupboard while a Garmin brandishes my skin, but entertains my
| need for self-data. A measurement only ankle bracelet would be
| a perfect solution. Who cares about exact time when you have
| thousands of gears giving you a few seconds drift per day.
| hollander wrote:
| Yeah I want the monitor, not the screen. Apple, Polar,
| Garmin, I don't care.
| mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote:
| You might be interested in the Oura ring then. I can't
| recommend it, because I haven't tried it. But sounds like
| the kind of thing you're talking about.
| lvturner wrote:
| I do exactly this. Very happy with the solution though I
| did get grandfathered in to their paid subscription (so I
| don't pay it)
|
| Mechanical watches are a deep and expensive rabbit hole
| though.
| JohnBooty wrote:
| They certainly can be a deep and expensive thing, lol
|
| But it can also be very affordable! Can get a perfectly
| great mechanical for around $100!
|
| (Although, now that Seiko has abandoned that price level
| and prices on everything have gone up in general,
| $150-$200 is perhaps a more realistic starting point.
| Still a lot of "new old stock" Seikos at that $100ish
| price though if you look...)
|
| While I realize these dollar amounts are not affordable
| to everybody, I have noticed that many people who scoff
| at these prices happily spend hundreds or thousands per
| year on _their_ hobbies and entertainment....
| rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote:
| Well, you've got two wrists:
| https://www.theverge.com/23522956/double-wristwatch-apple-
| wa...
| JohnBooty wrote:
| A measurement only ankle bracelet would be a perfect solution
|
| Has anybody ever tried that? Would it work, if you had a big
| enough strap to fit an ankle?
| fellerts wrote:
| Excellent points! I'd like to add that while your Apple watch
| might last you 5-10 years, a mechanical watch well looked-after
| can last several lifetimes. I'm currently daily-driving an
| automatic watch from the mid-60s that still somehow looks
| pristine and keeps excellent time (for a mechanical, that is).
| I expect this watch to outlive me.
| subhro wrote:
| 5-10 years... wishful thinking, that's all I am going to say.
| ladberg wrote:
| Is it? I have a nearly 5 year old Apple Watch (series 4) on
| my wrist and I've never had any issues with it.
|
| I'll probably replace it when a new watch comes out with a
| feature I really want (unlikely) or the battery stops
| lasting a full day, which might take a few more years as I
| don't even get close to running out unless I forget to
| charge it overnight.
| yourusername wrote:
| Did that watch survive from the 60s without service? If you
| need to have a vintage watch like that serviced it would cost
| about the same as buying a new apple watch. Some of these old
| watches can also become a bit of a ship of theseus. It's a
| 60's watch with a new crystal,mainspring and rotor.
| dabluecaboose wrote:
| Under relatively normal wear, the only parts that should be
| replaced _are_ the crystal, mainspring, and rotor. That 's
| 3 wear parts, not exactly a "ship of theseus".
|
| If something is broken, sure. It might need replacing. But
| that's rarer, I think, than people realize, and rarely is
| it more than one or two parts of the movement.
|
| I recently repaired my great-grandfather's pocket watch and
| the only replacement necessary was the mainspring.
| hoosieree wrote:
| A watch from the 60s _can_ still be serviced today (80
| years later).
|
| An apple watch will intentionally brick itself (to preserve
| battery life, honest) after 8 years.
| fellerts wrote:
| Now just _can_ -- when disassembling a mechanical
| wristwatch you realize that these things were built with
| serviceability in mind. There 's no glue, everything
| comes apart with ease. That's one of the main reasons for
| my fascination with them. How many other things in our
| daily lives are built like this?
| wazoox wrote:
| I've use a 100 years-old watch as a daily driver for a few
| years (until it was stolen...). It was serviceable, but it
| was relatively expensive, so I lived with its known 2-5
| minutes daily drift. I'd say that up to 10 minutes of daily
| drift is perfectly tolerable in my book, so it could
| probably go 200 years without any servicing whatsoever :)
| NavinF wrote:
| > 10 minutes of daily drift is perfectly tolerable
|
| Heh I feel bad when I'm 10 min late to a call, but if I
| had your watch I'd be 20 min late!
| wazoox wrote:
| I'd wind the watch and adjust it in the morning, and will
| be 2-5 minutes late in the evening. But at times I would
| adjust it during the day while watching time close to
| another, more reliable time source (like a public clock
| in a train station, for instance, or TV news in a shop
| window). After all it only takes a second to adjust: pull
| the crown, turn it a tiny bit, and push it back in :)
| [deleted]
| JohnBooty wrote:
| People are wincing at the idea of watch that is 5+
| minutes off, but I typically _intentionally_ set my
| watches roughly 5 minutes fast anyway. Helps me avoid
| being late for stuff. (I realize this makes no sense if
| you think about it too hard... shhhhhh)
|
| If I need the precise time, I can pull out my phone or
| just ask another human who nearly because they will
| surely have a phone :)
|
| (Note to non-watch enthusiasts: we are talking about the
| tolerances on very old watches; a modern $100 mechanical
| is usually accurate to within 5-10 seconds a day)
| fellerts wrote:
| I serviced it myself a few months ago. It definitely needed
| a new crystal, but the movement was in very good condition.
| I didn't even replace the mainspring. Some pictures here:
| https://www.watchrepairtalk.com/topic/25437-first-
| successful...
| lm28469 wrote:
| > Apple watch might last you 5-10 years
|
| Tiny ass battery + daily full charge discharge = toast well
| before 10 years
|
| If they actually cared about sustainability the screen and
| battery would be user replaceable
| Analemma_ wrote:
| Battery replacement service through Apple is $80, which is
| not an unreasonable amount for a once-every-four-years
| repair; between the parts required and the expected
| probability of screwing it up and damaging it, you wouldn't
| really be saving any money doing it yourself.
| itissid wrote:
| Apple always has had this tussle between making things
| repairable and sustainable vs selling more of stuff. It
| does not have to be this way. Don't they make a log of
| money from non hardware services. I heard apple pay rakes
| in close to 800m $
| FredPret wrote:
| According to this [0] Apple made 93 b over the past four
| quarters. The Apple watch is bigger than the entire Swiss
| watch industry [1] but still a minor part of Apple.
|
| My point being that they'd have to sell a hell of a lot
| of services to outpace the iPhone, and those services are
| mostly popular because they integrate into the iPhone.
| And people want the new shiny ones.
|
| [0] https://ultimatestockpicker.com/company-detail/AAPL/
|
| [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertanaas/2020/02/07/a
| pple-wa...
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| The battery of a 20$ Casio F-91W alone, will outlive
| several Apple watches.
| reaperducer wrote:
| _The battery of a 20$ Casio F-91W alone, will outlive
| several Apple watches._
|
| While I'm with you in spirit, I'm not sure that's
| strictly accurate.
|
| The F-91W battery is rated for 10 years: https://support.
| casio.com/storage/en/manual/pdf/EN/009/qw593...
|
| The calculator version (which I use) is rated for three
| years, assuming you only let the alarm go off for 20
| seconds per day, and use the calculator function for less
| than one hour per day: https://support.casio.com/storage/
| en/manual/pdf/EN/009/qw320...
| _thisdot wrote:
| Clearly the selling point of F-91W is the price. I think
| most owners are comfortable with roughhousing their F-91W
| and just buying a new one
| JohnBooty wrote:
| use the calculator function for less than one hour per
| day
|
| I _really_ want to meet a person who is hammering away at
| the calculator function on their watch for more than an
| hour per day. That would clearly be the coolest person in
| the world.
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| You must be fun at parties.
|
| CASIO is known, and I can vouch for this from experience,
| to be very conservative with their numbers: with a
| quality cell 7 year battery life usually means about 10,
| 3 year battery life usually means around 5, 30m water
| resistance usually means over 50m in practice,
| 30seconds/month accuracy usually means around 10 or even
| less, etc.
| alt227 wrote:
| Dude, we're all nerds. None of us are fun at parties. No
| need for the sarcasm!
| moolcool wrote:
| > The F-91W battery is rated for 10 years
|
| What would you consider the average life of an Apple
| Watch? If it's 5 years, OP is right.
| reaperducer wrote:
| _What would you consider the average life of an Apple
| Watch? If it 's 5 years, OP is right._
|
| I'd say the Apple Watch is too new for anyone to know. I
| still use my six-year-old Apple Watch.
| bookofjoe wrote:
| Casio F-91W costs $16.96 here:
| https://www.amazon.com/Casio-F91W-Digital-Sports-
| Watch/dp/B0...
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| I know Americans enjoy the lowest consumers electronics
| prices in the world but in Europe it's at least 20 Euros
| which is more than 20 USD and even at 20 euros it's
| difficult to find, with most shops asking for more than
| that.
| bookofjoe wrote:
| Indeed. EUR28.86 = $31.08 USD at Amazon Germany:
| https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Casio-F91W-1-Classic-Black-
| Digita...
|
| SEK 587.14 = $54.23 USD at Amazon Sweden:
| https://www.amazon.se/Casio-Herrar-Digitalklocka-
| hartsrem-F-...
| drivers99 wrote:
| I remember paying $7 for mine at Walmart. It was on
| clearance.
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| It's crazy how much cheaper stuff is in the US compared
| to Europe.
| 908B64B197 wrote:
| It's completely self-inflicted.
|
| Duties, tariffs, out of control regulations and taxes to
| pay for underperforming civil servant's pension funds. It
| all adds up.
| mrguyorama wrote:
| Also worker protections, public safety nets, and a
| general desire to not let corporations chew up and spit
| out people as if they were iron ore.
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| Workers protections have nothing to do with consumer
| prices.
| bookofjoe wrote:
| Cheap at twice the price.
| bookofjoe wrote:
| Introduced in 1989.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_F-91W
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| I kinda screwed it up taking it apart. Didnt have any oil to
| add back and rusted one of the gears a bit. Goal is still
| longer than 5 years and probably an easy 10-20
| fellerts wrote:
| I take it you didn't want to fall into the rabbit hole that
| is watch servicing, cleaning and lubrication? That's a deep
| and expensive one, especially for automatics...
|
| Might I suggest you reach out to Marshall
| @WristwatchRevival and ask if he wants to give it a proper
| service? I'm sure he'd be delighted by this project.
|
| Edit: you say "I glued the movement to the dial". That
| sounds like the dial will never come off, making servicing
| night impossible, or am I misunderstanding this? Also: "in
| a normal watch the dial would get sandwiched between the
| glass and the case somehow" no, typically there are holes
| drilled through the mainplate with screws that grab or hold
| the dial feet. The movement complete with dial and hands
| normally floats in the case, held in place with a couple
| screws.
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| Didn't really know if it would work until the end so
| didn't want to sink even more time and money in. That
| watch oil is bloody expensive.
|
| I'm sure he would be but I think he must get lots of
| requests and I am not sure it is his usual victim for a
| repair =)
|
| It is glued with B7000 glue commonly used for phone
| repairs and the same glue used on the back glass. It
| softens right up with some heat and isopropyl alcohol.
|
| True, thank you for that I will change it in the write
| up. I was thinking mostly of these Seiko movements which
| to my understanding are normally just sandwiched by the
| case back but that is certainly not the norm across other
| watches.
| snapcaster wrote:
| +1 to Marshall! I watch his magic podcast but that guy
| fucking rocks!
| [deleted]
| subhro wrote:
| I wear an automatic Tag Heuer. I have been asked by many people
| why I still wear a mechanical watch. My answer is, battery
| powered watches (including smart watches and quartz movements)
| might have a life, but a mechanical watch ticking incessantly
| has a soul.
| amelius wrote:
| Also: an Apple watch lacks elegance and is literally sexless.
| bookofjoe wrote:
| I demur. My 2017 38mm Series 3 w Hermes Sport band is a
| joy.
| JohnBooty wrote:
| Yeah. A mechanical watch is almost like a companion.
|
| It only "lives" when you wear or wind it. It's only a few
| seconds of active "work" on your part per day but I find
| myself feeling kind of paternal toward them, or like I'm
| caring for a little mechanical pet buddy or something.
|
| Quartz watches and computers in general are also miracles to
| me, as well!
|
| But mechanical watches are their own special sort of miracle
| that I really appreciate.
| jansan wrote:
| I actually think that a digital watch with solar cell,
| multiband receiver and led backlight is a greater engineering
| marvel.
| mhandley wrote:
| I really like my Casio LCW-M100TSE [1]. It's a (mostly)
| analog watch with a solar cell, radio receiver and led
| backlight. Keeps perfect time (radio sync), never needs
| charging, battery changing or winding, has a titanium case
| and titanium band so is incredible light but nearly
| indestructable, and looks good without being overly
| pretentious or a statement of wealth. And most importantly,
| doesn't interrupt me with notifications when I'm trying to
| concentrate. As watches go, I think it's as close to perfect
| as any watch I've had. Never would have thought that as I got
| older and wealthier, I'd end up back with Casio 40 years
| after having Casio watches as a teenager, but there you are.
|
| [1] https://www.casio-europe.com/euro/products/watches/radio-
| con...
| jansan wrote:
| I own this, too, and used it as my only watch until a few
| days ago. Then the titanium mod for my GW-M5610U-1ER
| arrived by mail. I am wearing this now, but I wish it was
| as light as the LCW-M100TSE (which is 70g vs. 100g of my
| new one). Since I prefer pure digital watches which I grew
| up with I will stick to the G-Shock with titanium mod.
|
| BTW, you forgot to mention that the LCW-M100TSE has a
| sapphire crystal, which is quite a unique feature in that
| price class. IMO it is the watch with the best value for
| the price.
| JohnBooty wrote:
| Absolutely love that one. It is exactly my kind of watch...
| a sleeper gem. A true "if you know you know" watch.
|
| Everybody else sees an affordable Casio. But those who
| know, know.
| JohnBooty wrote:
| Yeah! I've got a few of those as well.
|
| They are different kinds of marvels to me, and I deeply
| appreciate them! I'm a big G-Shock fan in particular.
|
| I am (among many other things!) a computing enthusiast, a
| quartz watch enthusiast, and a mechanical watch enthusiast. I
| find that appreciating each one of those things enhances my
| appreciation for the others.
| thom wrote:
| I grew to appreciate this watching the excellent videos on
| Wristwatch Revival:
|
| https://youtube.com/@WristwatchRevival
|
| Which I only knew about through Marshall's Magic: the Gathering
| links, but the watch stuff is surprisingly soothing.
| Ecstatify wrote:
| Sundials emphasize our reliance on the sun as a source of light
| and energy. They remind us of the fundamental role the sun
| plays in sustaining life on Earth and providing us with light
| and warmth. This dependency gives sundials a sense of harmony
| with the natural world and instills a sense of wonder and
| appreciation for the celestial bodies.
|
| Mechanical watches are diamonds for men.
| JoeJonathan wrote:
| Cannot tell if this is satire
| teddyh wrote:
| _The gods confound the man who first found out how to
| distinguish hours! Confound him, too, who in this place set
| up a sundial, to cut and hack my days so wretchedly into
| small portions!_
|
| -- Plautus (c.254-184 BC)
|
| <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30047352>
| reaperducer wrote:
| Mechanical watches work at night.
| WillAdams wrote:
| Yeah, for folks who want to know more about watchmaking we had
| a customer make a complete watch, including movement:
|
| https://community.carbide3d.com/t/watchmaking-on-the-nomad/4...
|
| and I found an animated overview:
|
| https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/
| tvrg wrote:
| > I think a lot of techie types might not realize what an
| engineering marvel a mechanical watch movement is. I'm sure you
| all realize there are a lot of teeny tiny gears.
|
| For those who want to learn more about it, this is an awesome
| interactive explanation of the functioning of mechanical
| watches: https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/
| subsubzero wrote:
| Really cool! Fun fact - the apple watch was designed based on
| inspiration from a mechanical watch brand, ikepod. Jonathan Ive
| recruited Marc Newsom who created ikepod(with another watch
| maker) and Newsom took alot of the design elements from ikepod
| watches to come up with the apple watches unique look. So I guess
| its going full circle again.
|
| https://www.design-drivel.com/articles1/ikepod-applewatch
| hengheng wrote:
| I think the correct candidate for a pocket watch would be an old
| school iPod.
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| Oh damn, people are actually reading to the end of the write-
| up? My first thought was actually an iPod touch because that's
| what I grew up with. I think an iPod is definitely the right
| call
| prxtl wrote:
| A few years ago, H. Moser & Cie made a mechanical watch with
| their superb levels of craftsmanship that kinda/sorta parodied
| the Apple Watch: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/moser-swiss-
| alp-watch-s-in...
| pinko wrote:
| This is mentioned in the OP's link.
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| Through posting on Reddit I learnt that Moser wasn't the only
| one either. Apparently Ciga Designs did some similar watches
| and even Casio has one, the MTP-M305
| ask_b123 wrote:
| Could you perhaps explain this paragraph?
|
| > Alert readers will notice that Moser managed, in one
| paragraph, to dismiss the efforts of all three major luxury
| watch groups - Richemont, Swatch, and LVMH - as somewhat
| lacking in intestinal fortitude
| kingkongjaffa wrote:
| The paragraph they are referring to is the press release
| further up the page.
|
| They are basically saying none of the major manufacturers had
| done anything serious in the realm of smart watches.
|
| The reason it's a "dangerous game" is because the watch
| industry was disrupted once before by the quartz crisis
| (cheap quartz watches flooding the market) and many
| manufacturers went out of business or had to merge with
| others to form larger groups to survive. So the danger is
| that smart watches will do the same.
|
| Watches had a rough time for a while after quartz became a
| thing in the 80's.
|
| Now they are seen a jewellery more because every has a smart
| phone for time telling. But watch collecting as a hobby is
| making a comeback in the 2010's to now with the internet and
| hype generating content like YouTube, instagram, Hodinkee,
| and consumers are keeping a multi billion dollar market
| afloat with products from million dollar Patek phillipe to 5
| dollar casios.
| FabHK wrote:
| I find this version (also from H. Moser & Cie) more appealing:
|
| https://www.ablogtowatch.com/h-moser-cie-swiss-alp-watch-fin...
| babymatics wrote:
| [dead]
| plewd wrote:
| > I have been constructing a fully functional mechanical Apple
| Watch! A dumb watch if you will! _chuckles at own joke_
|
| Can someone... explain the joke? I don't know if it's a pun I'm
| missing :l
| grk wrote:
| As in opposite to smartwatch
| screye wrote:
| Cool, but ugly. I won't wear it, but I'm glad it exists.
| TomK32 wrote:
| Not to be confused with the OG, the 1995 Apple watch
| https://www.cnet.com/culture/original-90s-apple-watch-sellin...
| jansan wrote:
| Imagine you find this atrocity of a watch in an old box on the
| attic and someone is willing to pay $2500 for it.
| wdb wrote:
| Love to send this person my Apple Watch to convert it in a
| mechanical watch. so much better and cheaper than a H.Moser
| the__alchemist wrote:
| It makes me wonder why mechanical over something with a XO, given
| it wouldn't have the status-symbol associated with mech watches.
| (Or maybe it would?)
| timw4mail wrote:
| But mechanical watches are so much more fun to...watch
| stevekemp wrote:
| They really are. I wear a watch daily, and have been
| collecting them for some years.
|
| Originally I had a bunch of themed-watches "This is the watch
| for swimming", "this is the watch for going to sauna with",
| "this is the watch for posh events", "this is the watch for
| photography", etc.
|
| Nowadays I have too many, so it's more a case of choosing
| which watch I feel like wearing in the morning. Sometimes I
| swap every day, sometimes I wear the same one for 3-4 days,
| but no longer than that really.
|
| My collection includes a lot of vintage (read "bought second-
| hand for peanuts") Soviet watches, high end Swiss pieces, and
| a single Casio F-91-W-1 for when I'm feeling like a kid from
| the 80s.
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| It wouldn't have been anywhere near as funny to me or enjoyable
| for me to wear. Literally the only reasons. Mechanical
| movements are strictly worse
| throwanem wrote:
| On the other hand, if you're gonna do it at all, why not go
| whole hog?
| interroboink wrote:
| Obligatory link to this wonderful interactive site explaining the
| inner workings of mechanical watches:
| https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/
| danparsonson wrote:
| That is superb, thank you!
| rcarmo wrote:
| Very, very nice. I have been trying to figure out how to replace
| the battery on my Apple Watch in a country with limited hardware
| support options, and although this won't help, it is another
| reminder that Apple these days designs for disposability rather
| than long-term ownership...
| Hippocrates wrote:
| I can never get tired of this sort of juxtaposition of old/new
| tech. Really cool project.
| gorbypark wrote:
| I always have had somewhat of an unrealistic dream of taking an
| Apple Watch, removing the screen completely and installing a
| super thin mechanical movement on top (or putting the guts into a
| more tranditional looking case). I think it would be possible to
| use a smaller battery once the screen isn't there, to make more
| room for the movement as well. I'd love to have the health
| tracking features, and while I don't have an Apple Watch, I think
| that it would work without a screen and I'd just be able to use a
| phone to see the data.
| bombolo wrote:
| Casio has some watches that pair with the phone for step
| counter. I think the ones with heart beat monitor have a
| screen.
| BadOakOx wrote:
| I think several watch makers started to do something similar,
| but not sure if I would trust their software. However, Garmin
| has good health tracking features and they offer them in an
| analogue way with their vivomove line:
| https://www.garmin.com/en-IE/p/742133/pn/010-02566-00
| gregoriol wrote:
| What you describe is the Withings ScanWatch: less screen, more
| battery duration, smartphone for data, ...
| gorbypark wrote:
| I'm looking for an actual Apple Watch, though. I'm all in on
| the Apple ecosystem so doesn't really make sense otherwise.
| rob74 wrote:
| But that's not a mechanical movement, as far as I can see?
| Actually it can't be, because it needs to move the watch
| hands out of the way so you can see what's on the display...
|
| Another (slightly less pricey) "smartwatch with hands"
| alternative is the Garmin vivomove range:
| https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/698394
| PeterBarrett wrote:
| Sequent might be of interest yo you
| https://sequentworld.com/
| gregoriol wrote:
| Nice ideas there!
| gregoriol wrote:
| They are not mechanical indeed, they just look like them.
| Which is pretty nice. The Garmin one doesn't have ECG
| though.
| jansan wrote:
| If you only want the casing and wristband of an Apple Watch there
| are cheap knockoffs on Aliexpress that have a quite solid
| hardware (and a crappy software).
| ciroduran wrote:
| If you don't know how mechanical watches work, this is a very
| good article that has been posted before in HN :D
| https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/
| shazar wrote:
| Unrelated to the article, but hijacking the history and making it
| impossible to navigate back is the new cancer in the internet I
| guess.
| ge96 wrote:
| The other thing I've seen is they scroll you to the bottom
| where those weird article embeds are.
| rjh29 wrote:
| Another dark pattern is hijacking back to move you to the
| 'front page' of the site. Like twitter, get linked to a tweet
| and then the back button takes you to your feed, which
| absolutely nobody requested.
| kazinator wrote:
| I seem to recall that hijacking the back button goes back to
| the 1990's. I suspect some of the ways in which it was done
| (like with naive redirects) probably don't work today, but the
| annoying effect has been there for eons.
| reaperman wrote:
| I remember browsers stopped it for awhile. Maybe I'm
| misremembering?
| kazinator wrote:
| I don't think you are. I think early versions of the
| problem happened because the website did a redirect:
| x.y.com/ would sand you to w.y.com/ and your browser would
| stupidly remember that as a user navigation. Your back
| button from w.y.com would take you to x.y.com, which would
| perpetrate the redirect. The fix for that is not to enter
| redirects into the back history, only user-initiated
| navigations.
| sublinear wrote:
| This is still around
|
| https://developer.mozilla.org/en-
| US/docs/Web/API/History_API
| tkgally wrote:
| Here's the direct link to the video:
|
| https://youtu.be/B2h5WwrkJFg
|
| I enjoyed it immensely.
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| I thought people would find it really boring, hence the 800%
| speed up on most clips. Very glad to hear at least some
| people enjoyed it
| jacquesm wrote:
| This is the opposite of boring :) Thank you and well done!
| AdamTReineke wrote:
| Congrats, very well done! What was the laser doing the
| cutting and engraving?
|
| I loved the video format, reminded me of the Primitive
| Technology channel where he just gets out of the way and
| lets the work itself (plus closed captions) do all the
| talking.
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| Just a no name, Chinese, 20W fiber laser. Takes a minute
| to get through but it works.
|
| Would have liked to do a little more talking but the
| video already took way too bloody long and I didnt know
| if anyone would watch it
| dmurko wrote:
| You should narrate the video, it would make it easier to
| follow for people who've no idea what you're doing (like
| me).
| NanoRobotGeek wrote:
| Did a few captions and would have liked to do more
| narration. Needed to get it done for an Instructables
| competition tho so just posted it as is
| [deleted]
| numpad0 wrote:
| This is an abuse. And it's one of obligations of web browsers
| to protect users from abuse.
| alwayslikethis wrote:
| That's why I just middle click to open everything on a new tab
| nowadays. Back button still works 90% of the times, but when
| it's hijacked it's incredibly annoying, and I have plenty of
| monitor width for the tabs.
| alpaca128 wrote:
| Too bad some modern sites even somehow block middle clicks.
| tough wrote:
| Im on a mac cmd+click has always been reliable
|
| Not sure I've seen this on the wild
| mrguyorama wrote:
| A website cannot block the right click "open as new tab"
| action, and since that's what my gesture based interaction
| add-on uses, I'm safe.
|
| https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/gesturefy/
| ben_w wrote:
| That's why I still prefer laptop to mobile or tablet: there
| is a middle click.
| KineticLensman wrote:
| Longpress on iOS Safari gives you a menu that lets you open
| a link in the background, which is essentially open in a
| new tab. I use it all the time, e.g to work through the HN
| front page selecting some comment pages to read later
| ben_w wrote:
| Ah!
|
| I wish I could say thanks, but when I tried it out just
| now, I realised that I have seen it many times -- trouble
| is, it's labelled in my mind as "that annoying popup I
| keep triggering by accident, how do I disable it?"
|
| Still, have a metaphorical cookie: even though I don't
| like the thing, sharing knowledge kindly is always good
| :)
| delecti wrote:
| If nothing else, now you know what behavior was
| triggering the thing you don't like. Maybe now you can
| start to make it only happen deliberately, which might
| make it less annoying.
| codazoda wrote:
| I'm surprised to see this from Instructables (Autodesk). If you
| right-click the back button you'll see that it did four
| redirects and you can click the 5th to get back.
|
| I highly doubt this is effective at anything.
| RobotToaster wrote:
| Instructables went down the pan years ago when they tried to
| paywall the allsteps view.
|
| Autodesk as a company are known for shitty behaviour, so it
| doesn't surprise me they made it worse.
| flangola7 wrote:
| Why do browsers even allow this behavior? The back button
| should automatically skip any blind redirects.
| j16sdiz wrote:
| because Single-Page-Applications
|
| they want the back button work with app internal state
| changes
| sublinear wrote:
| Single page apps don't require a frontend router and the
| same can be achieved by unconditionally sending a
| redirect from the server side for any request as long as
| you also hook into the "beforeunload" event in the
| browser.
| sublinear wrote:
| It's not the back button, but these two otherwise useful
| APIs used in a malicious way together:
|
| https://developer.mozilla.org/en-
| US/docs/Web/API/Window/befo...
|
| https://developer.mozilla.org/en-
| US/docs/Web/API/Location/hr...
| bombcar wrote:
| It's been common for ages and stupidly built single sign on
| sites have made it even worse.
| boopmaster wrote:
| the energy used to salvage the e-waste may have been a bit
| excessive relative to the e-waste. really cool project! Also
| incredibly impractical while the barrier to entry isn't exactly
| low.
| the_arun wrote:
| This is really cool. Great gift for grand parents who struggle to
| use Smart watch.
| dhosek wrote:
| Hey, my 81-year-old mother actually absolutely _loves_ her
| Apple Watch (although I had to show her the setting so she
| could have the crown on the opposite side because she wears it
| on her right wrist).
| 6510 wrote:
| You cant polish a turd... Hold my beer.
| [deleted]
| wiseowise wrote:
| Combining worst of both worlds, nice.
| usrusr wrote:
| Heh, I was expecting also the movement made from discarded Apple
| watch materials, and now I feel bad about my disappointment
| because this project, while being orders of magnitude less
| insane, is still cool.
| tghtvbhcc wrote:
| [flagged]
| randomcarbloke wrote:
| H. Moser et Cie do a decent mechanical "Apple Watch"
| DonHopkins wrote:
| MacBook cases make great notebook covers too.
| ericzawo wrote:
| I love watches but don't think I'll ever wear an Apple Watch. It
| just doesn't _feel_ like a Watch. It 's very much a wrist
| computer. I would love if they made an Apple Watchband, as in a
| computer-powered wristband of some kind that does all the great
| things Apple Watch does (pedometer, heart monitoring, gps,
| notifs) but replaces the watch band of my Actual Watch. Now
| that'd be something I would wear.
| growt wrote:
| I also love mechanical watches and own a handful. But I also
| love the convenience to pay with my apple watch. The way I
| solved it: I wear my apple watch on the right arm and a "real"
| watch on the left.
| _thisdot wrote:
| I do this at times when working from home. Never had the guts
| to actually do this in public. Maybe a fitness band with a
| real watch
|
| I even tried wearing the Apple Watch upside down on my
| dominant hand, but very easy to damage the watch that way
| gorbypark wrote:
| That would be amazing (especially if it was an Apple product).
| hbn wrote:
| I'd hazard to guess watch enthusiasts would be less likely to
| like smart watches because they don't really provide the same
| value/draw. I have an Apple Watch because it's basically just
| an excuse to touch my phone less. I don't need to take it out
| when I get a notification, or when I'm listening to music and
| want to skip a track. I don't wear it as a fashion statement or
| with hopes I can pass it down for generations. It's just a
| phone accessory.
| stephencanon wrote:
| I wear a nice mechanical watch every day, but I do own an Apple
| Watch to use if I have to be reachable while doing something
| where getting at a phone would be inconvenient. It's pretty
| great for that purpose.
___________________________________________________________________
(page generated 2023-06-09 23:02 UTC)