[HN Gopher] Manjaro is a free and open source Linux operating sy...
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Manjaro is a free and open source Linux operating system that
emphasizes privacy
Author : doener
Score : 39 points
Date : 2023-06-08 21:04 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (manjaro.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (manjaro.org)
| RadixDLT wrote:
| is that right? not a lot of support for arch.
| activiation wrote:
| Might as well use Arch... One less level that could fail
| unclad5968 wrote:
| Might as well develop your own OS
| constantcrying wrote:
| Installing Arch isn't hard if you have any kind of
| familiarity with Linux/Unix and you get far more flexible
| system by doing that.
| local_crmdgeon wrote:
| Is this related to Mandingo or Mounjaro?
| [deleted]
| chobytes wrote:
| Used it for like a year before switching to opensuse tumbleweed.
| For rolling release Ive found it to be a lot more stable, though
| some of more obscure packages I use are harder to obtain.
| cco wrote:
| I'd be curious if Manjaro is seeing an uptick in web traffic from
| confusion with Mounjaro (a next generation medicine similar to
| Wegovy/Ozempic).
|
| If so, maybe they should set up a referral link to direct folks
| to the right place and collect a referral bonus to help fund
| Manjaro <- sorta joke.
| skrowl wrote:
| [dead]
| constantcrying wrote:
| I really think that Arch is vastly preferable. Manjaro is highly
| oppinionated and does a lot of "weird" things. Having their own
| package repository, while offering the AUR isn't a great idea,
| neither is trying to ship a non-free office by default.
|
| In my experience it is significantly less stable and using an
| Arch based distro without the basic knowledge of an Arch system
| seens like a recipe for frustration.
| wkat4242 wrote:
| If you're capable of installing arch, then yes it's better.
|
| Manjaro is more for those who are not. Really, the first time
| you install Arch you're stuck in pages and pages of wiki trying
| to make decisions like what kind of partition scheme you want,
| what kind of network configuration tool, what kind of disk
| encryption, blabla.
|
| For people like you and me, this is fine. The idea is you learn
| from it as you go, you tailor the system to your needs.
| Personally I use FreeBSD, not Arch which takes a similar
| approach (a slight bit more guided) and is a little bit more
| opinionated but also offers some cool options not as readily
| available in the linux world.
|
| But reality is, most people are not like us, they are already
| put off by a Next-Next-Finish installer. The Arch wiki might as
| well be in Chinese for them (or in Dutch, if the user just
| happens to be Chinese).
|
| While I've never used Manjaro other than on a Live CD, I
| understand this is the usecase it tries to cover.
| Zetaphor wrote:
| Those people should consider something like Fedora with KDE.
| Arch is never a good choice if you're not willing to get your
| hands dirty in the terminal
| jchw wrote:
| Worth noting that Manjaro has had a somewhat tarnished
| reputation, which has been widely covered before but it's still
| worth mentioning.[1]
|
| I used to recommend Manjaro to people as an alternative to Arch
| that's a bit friendlier, but I stopped after trying to debug an
| issue and realizing that they have overcomplicated a lot of
| things (kernel management in particular bugs me in Manjaro.)
|
| Arch now has some kind of installer, so I guess that's an
| improvement. Though, I really wish Valve could package something
| like SteamOS 3 for regular desktops. I'm aware of multiple
| projects that do similar things, but the execution on Deck is
| quite good. The "immutable" concept is certainly going to be an
| important part of Linux on desktops in the future, probably in
| different forms.
|
| [1]: https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/
| 3np wrote:
| EndeavourOS is a (so far, time will tell) more reliable and
| sane normie-friendly desktop Arch with installer. The Budgie DE
| is def worth checking out for F&F.
| jonas-w wrote:
| Related Discussion:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32503090
| barbariangrunge wrote:
| I had good experience with manjaro. The main selling point for me
| was the rolling release. I got tired of reinstalling stuff as
| Ubuntu updates. There's always an issue and you end up having to
| install from scratch. However, as long as Ubuntu is on its own
| partition, and your files are separated out, that reinstall isn't
| so bad. I eventually wrote a todo list for it, and wrote some
| scripts to get set up faster
| wkat4242 wrote:
| What's really so "privacy" about Manjaro that something like
| Debian doesn't have? Of course Canonical has a really bad
| reputation on privacy with all the tricks they've been pulling
| but Ubuntu isn't the only game under the sun.
|
| I've never used it but I know Manjaro is basically a more
| opinionated and easier to use Arch. If you want rolling debian
| isn't an option but something like OpenSUSE tumbleweed is.
|
| But I really wonder what's supposed to be so much better in terms
| of privacy on Manjaro.
| JohnFen wrote:
| I'm not familiar with Manjaro, but with other security-focused
| distros, the difference is what the defaults are, plus perhaps
| some unique convenience applications.
|
| There's nothing you can do with any of the security-oriented
| distros that you can't do with any other distro, but the
| security-oriented ones can ease initial configuration and
| perhaps make it less likely that you overlooked something.
| wkat4242 wrote:
| Well, first of all, security is not the same as privacy
| though they do of course somewhat align.
|
| Second, the defaults on something like Debian are very
| security focused. Out of the box it installs hardly anything.
|
| Also I have never heard of Manjaro trying to be a "security-
| focused" distro until now. Not in the sense of OpenBSD,
| Whonix, or Hardened Gentoo. I'm sure it's not bad at privacy
| and security but really for most Linux distros this is a
| given.
| nazgulsenpai wrote:
| Manjaro isn't security oriented. Its a general purpose
| desktop distro that ships with a proprietary office suite by
| default. They also don't do anything to elaborate on the
| privacy claims in TFA. Disingenuous in my humble opinion,
| unless of course the privacy claim is in contrast to Windows.
| But then again the article doesn't elaborate
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