[HN Gopher] Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative
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Demo: Fully P2P and open source Reddit alternative
Author : estebanabaroa
Score : 68 points
Date : 2023-06-05 21:09 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (plebbit-test.netlify.app)
(TXT) w3m dump (plebbit-test.netlify.app)
| TheCaptain4815 wrote:
| So does this mean each subreddit creates and hosts their own
| entire "Reddit clone"?
| estebanabaroa wrote:
| Each community owner must run a node 24/7 to seed his own
| community's content via IPFS. Similar to how you need to seed a
| torrent you client.
|
| There's a GUI client so it's very easy, you just double click
| and leave it open.
|
| It's also possible for centralized services to run communities
| for people, so it's technically possible to run a community
| without having to have any device run 24/7 yourself.
| witheld wrote:
| The content you've linked really does a good job at showing how
| completely decentralized P2P social media is a terrible, terrible
| idea.
| dang wrote:
| Please don't snarkily dismiss someone's work. If you want to
| contribute constructively, there are plenty of other ways to
| bring this point.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
| nelox wrote:
| Yep, it may be technically of interest, but devoid of any
| modicum of social nuance or sophistication.
| geysersam wrote:
| Yes because Reddit gets its sophistication from being
| centralized and VC owned?
|
| The quality of Reddit is created by the users. If they used a
| P2P platform the content would be of high quality.
| geysersam wrote:
| Decentralized does not mean there's no moderation. 4chan is
| centralized but the content can be... We don't need big
| companies to help us do quality moderation. Quite the opposite.
|
| P2P social media is a fantastic idea.
| sosodev wrote:
| It's weird to use the name "plebbit" considering that's the
| derogatory term for Reddit used by 4chan folk. It's like begging
| for this to be a dumping ground for some of the worst human
| behaviors.
|
| Does the decentralized nature mean that illegal content can't be
| easily be removed?
| theprincess wrote:
| You'll also notice that the logo makes the face from the "NPC"
| memes that would have still been popular among the 4chan
| "politically incorrect" crowd right around the time this
| project was allegedly started. Sadly, for enterprising
| edgelords, Elon has usurped them all by turning Twitter itself
| into the ultimate "alt-tech" app. Like, seriously, unless you
| want to share illegal pornography, why not just share your
| spicey maymays on Twitter where they'll get more reach?
| Impressive amount of follow through regardless.
|
| https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/angry-npc-wojak
| zadler wrote:
| Well, theyve been working on it for 2 years, you expect them to
| be normies?
| user- wrote:
| > It's weird to use the name "plebbit" considering that's the
| derogatory term for Reddit used by 4chan folk. It's like
| begging for this to be a dumping ground for some of the worst
| human behaviors.
|
| i think thats the obvious intention. Just scroll down the page
| to see what the user base is.
| londons_explore wrote:
| Technically this project is very impressive...
|
| But the user experience is terrible.
|
| I think to have any success, you need to let the p2p features
| take a backseat, and build a lot of centralised content
| moderation tooling. You can plug the p2p bit into the centralized
| bit with a config URL for "List of allowed moderators" and have
| it default to a bunch of trusted people, who effectively have
| whitelist/blacklist/supervote abilities.
|
| Then you need to populate it with a bunch of good content to
| start off with.
| Havoc wrote:
| Congrats - seems pretty functional from a technical perspective
| mvdtnz wrote:
| [dead]
| makotech221 wrote:
| Took about 15 seconds to download the app and display the first
| few posts. Come back in another 2 years.
| Madmallard wrote:
| >looking at the post titles
|
| Maybe you don't want to post this here
| rejectfinite wrote:
| nooo you have to heckin moderate!!!
| IndigoIncognito wrote:
| https://plebbit-test.netlify.app/#/p/politically-incorrect.e...
|
| Oh no....
| metadat wrote:
| What on earth.. is this captcha some kind of joke?
|
| https://ibb.co/3yW9mjj
|
| I'm a human but it's not clear what the "challenge" even is that
| needs to be completed.
|
| And after you get it wrong, it doesn't kick you out, it just
| flashes a toast message like "User failed captcha".
|
| Twilight zone material.
| quickthrower2 wrote:
| Maybe ChatGPT with an image recognition plugin could help us
| solve these
| bongobingo1 wrote:
| Write the alphanumerics connected by a green line, i.e. connect
| (connected) the dots. I dunno, I immediately recognised it .
| nailer wrote:
| What is the final character? It looks like a backwards 7 or
| Cyrillic G.
| [deleted]
| comex wrote:
| It's just 7. How is it backwards?
| GenerocUsername wrote:
| Careful, don't teach the bots. Just let them fail to
| recognize. There is literally a 7 in the image on the
| keyboard proving it's not backwards.
| metadat wrote:
| I swear I tried that.. guess I'm a bot ^^
| computerlover wrote:
| Bot detected
| londons_explore wrote:
| Visually nice...
|
| Content is terrible...
|
| Speed is atrocious...
|
| Alas, I don't think it's yet ready for primetime. Is it fixable
| in a week?
| estebanabaroa wrote:
| >Alas, I don't think it's yet ready for primetime. Is it
| fixable in a week?
|
| We are 4 devs working full time on it. In my estimate it should
| be pretty smooth in around 1 year. We should also have an
| old.reddit interface as well for people who hate the new
| interface.
| londons_explore wrote:
| Who pays for your time? Or is this 3 years of free work?
| zadler wrote:
| 4 devs full time! How'd you swing that?
| dabluecaboose wrote:
| Is there any settings to not make it look like new reddit? If I
| was building a new site I wouldn't copy the godawful empty space
| design they forced on everyone
| estebanabaroa wrote:
| We have an imageboard interface https://plebchan.netlify.app/
| and currently working on an old.reddit interface.
|
| Other interfaces that are planned are stackexchange, discourse
| and vbulletin.
|
| The protocol is completely open and the code open source.
| Anyone can make any number of interoperable interfaces.
| dabluecaboose wrote:
| Thanks for the info! I'm intrigued by the different
| interfaces for the same content. I'll definitely keep an eye
| on this when reddit dies in a couple weeks!
| jeroenhd wrote:
| I don't know why but this somehow taxes my CPU more than the
| official Reddit site, which is kind of impressive in a way.
|
| The theme itself is a good Reddit replica, but I don't think IPFS
| has the necessary performance to run apps like these. Maybe it
| can live become a Lemmy frontend for the FOSS/fediverse crowd?
| thih9 wrote:
| Hug of death? On ios (firefox focus) I'm getting:
|
| > FetchEvent.respondWith received an error: no-response: no-
| response :: [{"url":"https://plebbit-test.netlify.app/"}]
| Diti wrote:
| Not compatible with the fediverse? I'll stay on Lemmy.
| lucideer wrote:
| The fediverse is federated (it's in the name). This is
| distributed (P2P). They're fundamentally different concepts in
| the underlying protocol so compatibility is a bit odd to think
| about here.
|
| There are certainly overlaps in the two concepts and certain
| parts of them can be compatible to a small extent: a bunch of
| people have compared Bluesky Social's AT protocol to SSB
| despite the former being federated & the latter being p2p. But
| similarities aside they can't really be compatible at protocol
| level.
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