[HN Gopher] Is there a wider internet outage today?
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       Is there a wider internet outage today?
        
       Author : brucethemoose2
       Score  : 82 points
       Date   : 2023-06-05 20:34 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.thousandeyes.com)
        
       | xboxnolifes wrote:
       | I don't know if this was related, but earlier today my personal
       | internet dropped to 1mbps down for at least 30 minutes. Also had
       | 40% packet loss using the cloudflare speed test on a wired
       | connection. East coast, USA.
        
         | el_benhameen wrote:
         | I had the same thing happen. I assumed it was my suboptimal
         | wifi setup acting up again and almost got back to researching
         | mesh systems.
        
           | drewmol wrote:
           | I've come to love powerline adapters when expanding Wi-Fi
           | coverage just in case you haven't looked into them. Speeds of
           | the latest adapters are up to 2.4Gbps!
        
       | ftxbro wrote:
       | microsoft 365 is down
       | https://downdetector.com/status/microsoft-365/
        
       | Daunk wrote:
       | I guess it was a bad day to try out my new internet provider...
        
       | ardit33 wrote:
       | HN Slow..... Outlook failing for me, some other sites a bit
       | slower than usual
        
       | 1970-01-01 wrote:
       | No, it's just HN going crazy for shiny new Apples.
        
         | vrosas wrote:
         | What if we took down _every_ website for our product
         | announcements??
         | 
         | - some Apple PM, probably
        
           | PeterWhittaker wrote:
           | You win the internet today.
           | 
           | Not much of a prize, today, maybe you can get a rain check.
        
       | leto_ii wrote:
       | In Bucharest I've had problems throughout the day. Most
       | noticeably just now while streaming on HBO Max.
        
       | mindcrash wrote:
       | Here in Europe traffic to cloud services from US based companies
       | has been sluggish or completely disfunctional for days.
       | 
       | For example: Microsoft's Xbox app works but is superslow, and
       | this weekend I couldn't even sign in in the EA app anymore for
       | some reason.
        
       | supportengineer wrote:
       | I'm seeing slowness across-the-board today
        
       | joshuanapoli wrote:
       | developer.apple.com for account management has also been down
       | most of the day.
        
         | hkchad wrote:
         | They always take down apple.com during a WWDC
        
       | Solvency wrote:
       | HN and Reddit have been tanking for hours for me.
        
       | hunter2_ wrote:
       | Had trouble with Google Chat messages getting queued. They
       | automatically retried and were delivered only after restarting
       | the device (Android). This was approximately 2.5 hours ago.
        
       | ftxbro wrote:
       | according to that website it's something called 'china unicorn
       | backbone' that went down
        
         | therein wrote:
         | China Unicom
         | 
         | https://www.chinaunicom.com.hk/en/global/home.php
        
           | bentcorner wrote:
           | Keming strikes again
        
         | brucethemoose2 wrote:
         | Oh thats weird. China was looking OK when I posted this, but
         | now its lighting up too.
        
       | Dwedit wrote:
       | Had internet outage from the cable ISP.
        
       | napsterbr wrote:
       | One additional data point that I didn't see mentioned elsewhere
       | yet:
       | 
       | Earlier today it took ~10 minutes for a Cloudflare worker of mine
       | to be updated after a deployment was made. This usually happens
       | instantly.
       | 
       | Very likely unrelated to a hypothetical wider outage, but thought
       | I'd share anyway.
        
       | nubinetwork wrote:
       | Most of the websites I use have been fine, outside of the odd
       | hiccups while browsing HN.
        
         | doompilot wrote:
         | It is the hiccup that have been worring me in the past week.
         | I've gotten 502 or error json files from banking, imdb, online
         | doc for some api, gmail, but a retry fixed the issue always. It
         | is not as sexy as all websites are down, but all website are of
         | dubious quality now.
        
         | World177 wrote:
         | HN is working without issue for me if I log out of my account.
         | I was worried that my account was suspended for some unknown
         | reason until I saw this post.
        
           | ceejayoz wrote:
           | Logged-out page views hit the cache. Logged-in ones don't.
        
       | benjaminwootton wrote:
       | I've had problems in the UK with Netflix and PlayStation network.
        
       | gnicholas wrote:
       | HN has been slow/failing for me today. I assumed it was the WWDC
       | keynote, in particular the One More Thing...
        
         | loloquwowndueo wrote:
         | Um what? That's not how the internet works.
        
           | wongarsu wrote:
           | HN having server issues when a single post gets 1200 comments
           | in two hours is pretty normal. I don't think any issues with
           | the wider internet are implied
        
           | bobs_salsa wrote:
           | I think they meant the keynote resulted in massive traffic to
           | HN resulting in HN giving itself the hug of death.
           | 
           | Totally plausible provided the overlap in communities.
        
       | mind-blight wrote:
       | Uber was pretty spotty in the UK for a few hours today across
       | multiple devices
        
       | rubinlinux wrote:
       | All of the MS subscription stuff seems to be slow today:
       | https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/microsoft-outlook-...
        
       | JdeBP wrote:
       | Although neither title is in the hyperlinked-to pages, the title
       | here is answered by the title at
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36202624 .
        
         | brucethemoose2 wrote:
         | Yeah, I saw this one before I started the thread, but it was
         | marked as dead and I couldnt reply.
        
       | deathanatos wrote:
       | Now I'm wondering if this is how I got "Server Error" while
       | trying to initiate a POTS call. First time I've ever gotten that.
       | 
       | HN also feels sluggish today.
        
         | jkingsman wrote:
         | As in, something spoke the words "Server Error" to you when you
         | tried to dial out?
        
           | deathanatos wrote:
           | No, actually, the Android phone app put those on the screen.
           | 
           | (And yeah, not the more familiar/classic POTS voice message
           | "We're sorry, the number you dialed...")
           | 
           | (Quite ... uselessly, too. An error in text form when the
           | phone is against my ear is not helpful.)
        
             | hunter2_ wrote:
             | POTS has "no mobile capabilities" and is strictly "analog
             | signal transmission over copper loops" [0] so I suspect
             | that's the source of confusion in this case.
             | 
             | PSTN is probably the acronym you meant, which refers to
             | "Originally a network of fixed-line analog telephone
             | systems, the PSTN is almost entirely digital in its core
             | network and includes mobile and wireless networks" [1].
             | 
             | [0]
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_old_telephone_service
             | 
             | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_switched_telephone
             | _netw...
        
       | brucethemoose2 wrote:
       | I know HN is getting hugged right now, but many other websites on
       | mobile and landline internet (in the southern US) are chugging
       | for me.
       | 
       | A conspicuous number of services are showing outages on
       | downdetector and thousandeyes.
        
         | trillic wrote:
         | I setup a few ping monitors and have been trouble routing to
         | Google all day. Intermittent packet loss. The other three I
         | setup (Cloudflare, L3, and ATT) are all good. Funny enough I
         | have Google Fiber, so I really have no clue what's going on.
        
         | TheAceOfHearts wrote:
         | Is HN struggling so much due to the Apple event or is there
         | another explanation?
        
           | brucethemoose2 wrote:
           | It could be both? A wider outage at a high traffic time.
           | 
           | HN is timing out constantly for me. So are some Microsoft
           | services. But then some other websites are loading fine...
        
             | midasuni wrote:
             | HN timeouts only applied while logged in with me
        
           | ftxbro wrote:
           | > "is there another explanation?"
           | 
           | It's aliens. They literally announced they have been reverse
           | engineering space ships from aliens from outer space. I mean
           | I don't think it's true but it's what they announced.
        
             | bbarnett wrote:
             | After I read your comment, I googled.
             | 
             | No one official announced anything. Instead an "insider"
             | claims this. Among the claims, is that aliens are working
             | with governements, and provided key tech, such as fiber
             | optics, and silicon chips.
             | 
             | Yeah. OK.
             | 
             | I can literay, over a century, trace all the key scientific
             | discoveries, how they happened, for transistors, ICs, etc.
             | There was no help.
             | 
             | And shining light through glass isn't that fancy of a tech.
             | 
             | These articles piss me off. They belittle the capabilities
             | of humans, for profit.
        
               | ahauxuueei wrote:
               | The parent is a troll and posted this thread "Is Hacker
               | News slow for you guys too? I think it's the Apple
               | announcements" just 20 minutes earlier.
               | 
               | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36203460
        
               | ftxbro wrote:
               | I'm not a troll I think both reasons are true.
        
           | entropie wrote:
           | I have serious routing/peering issues all day long from
           | germany (vodafone).
           | 
           | Dyndns is struggling also for me the entire day.
        
           | humanistbot wrote:
           | no, something is going on across all the sites I visit
        
         | brucethemoose2 wrote:
         | Another tracker with lots of outages in the US/EU:
         | https://www.pingdom.com/outages/
        
       | basementcat wrote:
       | Might some of the trouble be related to the lower Manhattan
       | internet outage today? https://hellgatenyc.com/lower-manhattans-
       | internet-is-down
        
         | ftxbro wrote:
         | > "We have identified the problem as a street cut impacting
         | hundreds of fiber-optic strands"
        
           | nubinetwork wrote:
           | Interesting, usually this sort of thing turns up on the NANOG
           | mailing list, but it's been pretty quiet over there.
        
           | 7ero wrote:
           | Not sure if this would cause larger regional harm, but
           | anecdotally there were issues connecting to our US east VPN
           | at work.
        
       | whalesalad wrote:
       | I blame it on Diablo 4 launch.
        
       | defenestration wrote:
       | There's a saying on HN: major outages often come from DNS. It was
       | also DNS in the recent WhatsApp outage thread. I'm wondering what
       | the source of the possible broader internet slowness is.
        
         | geocrasher wrote:
         | https://soundcloud.com/ryan-flowers-916961339/dns-to-the-tun...
        
       | acomjean wrote:
       | Perhaps. Our outlook mail failed today. They said its back, but
       | its still kind of flaky.
        
         | heywire wrote:
         | Yep, my Outlook mail for work is being flaky. I get
         | notifications of new messages but can't read the messages
         | (mobile)
        
           | NovemberWhiskey wrote:
           | Microsoft is having a huge M365 outage:
           | https://twitter.com/MSFT365Status
        
         | rayiner wrote:
         | Oh shit. I assumed outlook was being flaky because my inbox is
         | 10gb.
        
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