[HN Gopher] iOS 17 makes iPhone more personal and intuitive
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iOS 17 makes iPhone more personal and intuitive
Author : mihau
Score : 187 points
Date : 2023-06-05 18:29 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| This part of the presentation reallllly bothered me. What a bunch
| of time wasting nothings and filled with establishing your
| "brand" and ego.
|
| Sorry, but I do not want to see someone's Self advertising
| everytime I get a phone call. You know this will be used to show
| you ads when companies call, right? You think this will not be
| monetized?
| pat2man wrote:
| I mean its Apple, this is probably limited to your address
| book.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| No, it's not. It will apply to strangers as well.
|
| https://gizmodo.com/best-ios-17-features-iphone-apple-
| wwdc-2...
|
| Although it's the least used app for many of us, with iOS 17,
| the Phone app will be upgraded with a feature Apple is
| calling "Personalized Contact Posters" so instead of just
| your name and number showing up on the iPhone of someone
| you're calling, they'll see a customized image (or memoji)
| and **text of your choosing which could help persuade them
| into answering your call***. Apple also promises the Contact
| Posters will "also be available for third-party calling
| apps."
| yieldcrv wrote:
| Apple could really do so much more with the contact book
|
| If it was permissioned it would have a lot more utility,
| for us
|
| Like bring back google plus circles, for ios contacts
| eastbound wrote:
| "Text of your choice" only during the ringbell sound like a
| great Snapchat competitor.
|
| It also looks like a new way for spam callers to display
| the image of a nice girl to persuade you to answer.
| vlovich123 wrote:
| I can imagine a Zoom bombs variant of this.
| ezfe wrote:
| While I don't purport to know how it works, there's no
| indication this is any more automatic than the ALREADY
| EXISTING shared contact photos in Messages.
| OkGoDoIt wrote:
| The keynote says you will set your own design which other
| people will see you when you call them. So it's not based
| on the contact photo you have saved in your phone for
| someone, it's based on the information they set to be
| shared with you. It was not explicitly mentioned whether or
| not this will apply to everyone or only people you have
| already had contact with. I can imagine it being like
| airdrop where it only shows you all of that if you're in
| each other's contact list rather than just for every single
| inbound phone call from some random person. The video
| demonstration also showed there were some settings that
| could be tweaked, so possibly you might be able to set an
| override for someone in your own contact list and display
| what you want rather than what they provide. But none of
| that was clarified in the video. So unless this gizmodo
| article has access to more details, they're probably just
| describing their interpretation of it, and I will take
| those details with a grain of salt, until we have a
| developer beta for more detailed documentation to clarify.
| jeroenhd wrote:
| Wait, so this is for strangers too? That seems rather ill-
| advised. I suppose it's a way to make people buy iPhones so
| they don't get ignored by other iPhone users because of the
| missing picture?
|
| Now the scam callers will not only be able to spoof the
| FBI's phone number, but show a badge and a threatening full
| screen message too!
| rootusrootus wrote:
| > Now the scam callers will not only be able to spoof the
| FBI's phone number, but show a badge and a threatening
| full screen message too!
|
| Do they do that now with iPhones? It seems like the
| requirement to be using an Apple account would
| significantly hinder the scammers.
| vineyardmike wrote:
| Somehow iMessage scams have been getting popular lately.
| Every once in a while I get a few phishing messages a day
| through iMessages. Then after a week it stops (they got
| caught, exploit closed, I don't know).
| currency wrote:
| More worrying that they could grab a photo off FB and
| spoof a family member. Lots of people would ignore the
| number if the face and name were familiar. How many
| people actually memorize phone numbers any more?
| gwill wrote:
| i don't see where it says people outside your contacts will
| see it.
| oh_sigh wrote:
| Probably more likely will be dick pics that just pop up on your
| screen
| swah wrote:
| Just happy that friends are doing calls again!
| dymk wrote:
| So... don't use apps that do that? None of the first-party iOS
| apps will be showing you full-screen ads through that surface,
| obviously
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| How do the 1p apps block people's ads? Some sort of ML
| detection?
| jeroenhd wrote:
| Step 1: set your profile picture or whatever they call it as
| an ad. Use the free form text entry to customize the add for
| your target audience.
|
| Step 2: start calling people. Doesn't matter if they answer,
| their dialer will show your ad.
|
| The only workaround for this I can think of is to install an
| alternate dialer that doesn't implement this feature. I'm not
| sure it iOS has user replaceable dialers, though, that may
| just be an iOS thing.
| jeroenhd wrote:
| Step 1: set your profile picture or whatever they call it as
| an ad. Use the free form text entry to customize the add for
| your target audience.
|
| Step 2: start calling people. Doesn't matter if they answer,
| their dialer will show your ad.
|
| The only workaround for this I can think of is to install an
| alternate dialer that doesn't implement this feature. I'm not
| sure if iOS has user replaceable dialers, though, that may
| just be an iOS thing.
| setr wrote:
| I feel like accepting the spam call is far more painful
| than receiving it. This feels like it'd be an improvement,
| assuming the volume of spam doesn't increase with it
| substantially, since it's now much more obvious what's crap
| and what's not
| vineyardmike wrote:
| most spam callers use some VOIP hack to imitate other phone
| numbers, but this will surely require linking that phone
| number to an iCloud account. I don't know how spammers
| would do it, but I'm guessing this will actually be used to
| hide their identities behind iPhone accounts.
|
| it'd really be funny for spammers to suddenly start showing
| up as Karen from Des Moines instead.
|
| Actually thinking this through, it could be used to Dox
| people too.
| basisword wrote:
| I imagine this will be tied to an Apple ID and you'll lose
| your account pretty quickly if you abuse it. Or the
| customisation will be limited in some way. There's no way
| Apple will let someone call thousands of random numbers
| showing porn for example. I imagine someone has thought
| about this.
| MrBuddyCasino wrote:
| > easier sharing with AirDrop
|
| it works now? also if they could fix mobile hotspot, that'd be
| great
| fossuser wrote:
| Yeah, I have a 50% success rate with airdrop on anything large
| enough that I want to use airdrop because of it.
|
| It barely works.
| rektide wrote:
| Apple blew me away with what they are doing for personal
| communication. Everything else felt like a refinement or new
| product trial balloon. But what Apple is doing to make mini-
| creators out of people here is jaw dropping.
|
| I'd go so far to half-jest VisionPro launch was pushed up to
| smokescreen how big the iMessage changes are, what ecosystem
| dominance Apple is getting with iOS/MacOS. Apple is never going
| to participate with anyone else ever, after this. Apple is off
| executing incredible big advancements.
|
| Users create a little avatar that shows up across products, with
| some solid flare & artistic effect gratis. Great first impression
| building, lots of enduring personality.
|
| But the day to day is wow. Being able to positionally drag drop
| emoji into group chat is huge flair from the start. Drop in
| locations easily, nice, useful. Creating custom emoji really
| really impressed me, really let's folks develop repetoir & humor
| in their interactions with each other over time.
| ActivityPub/Mastadon impl MissKey has a very barebones custom
| emoji that I like, but the authorship tools here look really
| really friendly & helpful to really DIY, to go beyond being a
| meme bank.
|
| Other communications tech touches were everywhere. Live Voicemail
| live transcribing is dead simple & sensible, albeit receive only.
| Shared CarPlay Sessions is tech Google has in Cast/Android but
| which no one uses (including YouTube Music): hugely prosocial
| connected computing. Journaling is incredibly compelling as a
| synthesis tool, a way to pull together a variety of computing
| bits & encourage user content generation, to make a shared
| computing space around the user.
|
| Apple also situated into the home far better than Google.
| Android's widgets have been stagnant for years & crude, and Apple
| has gone from having nothing to relentlessly driving forward with
| microexperiences atop shared computing spaces. These ideas, of
| shared computing spaces, and shared interpersonal spaces, are
| massively on display here in a way no one else is computing is
| showing off, and it's incredibly compelling to me. And scary, as
| it's so purely Apple's space; the world needs some principled
| loyal opposition to the Cupertino Way, that keeps the path of
| computing available for open innovation.
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| was this written by a GPT?
| rektide wrote:
| What do you think? Why?
|
| I think I stated my reasoning here throughout. Two major
| themes, platform control & shared computing/social spaces,
| seem evident to me, we're such strong & rich themes.
|
| Doesn't seem to be working for anyone else though, woe.
| Getting hammered on three fronts: Apple fan boys that hate my
| platform dominion messages, Apple haters that hate to hear
| how well Apple is executing, and people who accuse me of
| being a chatgtp. I assure you I have the bonafieds to prove
| this is me at my regular. I wish people didn't have such
| nasty trigger fingers.
| sigstoat wrote:
| > What do you think? Why?
|
| asking if someone's post was written by gpt is just a new
| way of being rude that internet mods haven't yet had the
| balls to ban people for.
| anhner wrote:
| > Improvements to Autocorrect and Dictation Deliver More
| Intelligent Input
|
| Yet I bet they still won't add any additional languages for the
| swipe gesture, or allow multiple language predictions...
| el_benhameen wrote:
| Don't worry, the swipe keyboard on ios is so atrociously bad
| that you aren't missing much.
| gnicholas wrote:
| Eh, I like it and use it all the time. Different strokes for
| different folks (pun intended).
| doctoboggan wrote:
| They mentioned using generative transoformer technology for the
| new autocorrect. I hope that means very soon we will be able to
| have much more natural conversations with Siri
| swasheck wrote:
| autocorrect and the swipe keyboard on ios has gotten
| progressively worse with each release, to the degree that i've
| reverted to typing with my thumbs because it's faster.
| additional languages seems like a bridge too far right now
| deepspace wrote:
| I would be happy if the stupid thing stopped capitalizing
| every occurrence of "and", and stopped replacing "is" with
| "I'd". Those two alone turn swype-typing from a convenience
| into a frustrating slog.
| OkGoDoIt wrote:
| They claim this new version has a fancy transformer-based
| text production model. Assuming that same engine powers swipe
| prediction, we might finally see an improvement here. Here's
| to hoping. Voice dictation has also gotten worse over the
| past couple of years, I'm very excited that they claim
| they've got a new transformer-based architecture that works a
| lot better now. These two features alone might dramatically
| improve my quality of life using iOS. Android from a decade
| ago was better at text entry than iOS is currently.
| D13Fd wrote:
| This is so weird to me. I use both every day and they seem
| totally fine. It even picked up my child's unique nickname
| (even though spellcheck still flags it)
| k8sToGo wrote:
| I'm quite excited about the autocorrect improvements. However my
| expectations remain low.
| jamilton wrote:
| My expectations are low too. I haven't had any major negative
| experiences with iOS autocorrect in years, so it's seems likely
| that that'll be a downgrade for me.
| sen wrote:
| It still refuses to let me swear. Ever. No matter how often I
| correct it.
|
| As an Australian I find that really ducking ridiculous and an
| afront to my national bloody identity.
| kevincrane wrote:
| As someone else said, they mentioned that swearing is finally
| coming to autocorrect during the keynote. But if you want a
| fix faster than that (janky as this fix is), go to Settings >
| General > Keyboard > Text Replacement.
|
| Write down each swear you want and then write the same word
| for what it should be replaced with. So write "fucking" and
| "fucking" in the two boxes, and then iOS will know that
| "fucking" is a word it should look out for and it'll
| recognize it for both autocorrect and swipe typing.
|
| Very stupid fix but a stupid fix is still a fix.
| robertoandred wrote:
| They called this out specifically in the keynote as something
| they've fixed.
| 0cf8612b2e1e wrote:
| It is incredible how poor the correction is on a regular basis.
| What's most frustrating when you correct the correction and
| Apple will redo it yet again.
| [deleted]
| hfkwer wrote:
| Is this an advertisement?
| no_time wrote:
| ctrl+f "sideloading" -> 0 results
|
| With this in mind, does anyone care?
| throw74775 wrote:
| Correct, almost nobody cares about sideloading.
| dymk wrote:
| I'm sure dozens, maybe even hundreds, of people care
| kyrra wrote:
| I'd say it's more, with the EU Digital Markets Act.
| dymk wrote:
| EU lawmakers, famously known for being the pinnacle of The
| Will of the People
| velcrovan wrote:
| Most people don't care about sideloading.
| jeroenhd wrote:
| Not much of a surprise. Apple won't introduce installing
| downloaded apps unless they're forced, and the EU law that'll
| force them to enable external sources won't be enforced until
| next year.
| hammock wrote:
| >AirTag can be shared with up to five other people
|
| >Reminders features a grocery list that automatically groups
| added items into categories to make shopping easier.
|
| That's cool
| AndrewStephens wrote:
| Finally! AirTags are great but linking them to a single user
| was a significant limitation.
| culopatin wrote:
| If they could only apply this concept to an iPad...
| steve_adams_86 wrote:
| I feel like way too many of my notifications are iOS letting
| me know I'm being tracked by AirTags belonging to people I
| know. It'll be so nice to clear those out.
| jmyeet wrote:
| I am beginning to dread every new iOS version as they seem to
| just make it worse and worse as times goes on. Examples:
|
| 1. Copy and Paste. When first introduced, it was great. You got a
| magnifying glass to be precise. It basically just worked. Yet
| somehow they kept changing it and every change makes it less
| usable. Currently, you can't really place the cursor at the end
| of a line (seriously, go into iMessage and try it). It's trying
| way too hard to snap to where it thinks you want the cursor. The
| only way to get this is to put it at the beginning of the next
| line and delete back. Pressing on a word brings up the "select"
| menu instead of just placing the cursor half the time.
|
| 2. Safari tab groups. I liked the old version where you toggled
| between tabs and private. But now you have to go through an extra
| step: selecting a tab group. Some people may want this. I'm not
| one of them. There is absolutely no way to opt out of this.
|
| 3. On an iPad hitting the top center of Safari brings up some
| split screen functionality that I have never used, don't care
| about and don't want. It's a natural place to press to go to the
| top of the page so this happens all the time.
|
| Please just stop with this, Apple.
| andelink wrote:
| I don't have the same problems in #1 that you do (copy/paste +
| selection). Only mentioning this because you say to go try it,
| and I did just these things prior to reading your comment.
| Also, if you aren't aware of long pressing / holding the space
| bar to navigate, it's very useful.
| ant6n wrote:
| I cant figure out how to paste something in many contexts
| without a long press, which will select text - so the paste
| will replace that text. So if i want to insert something, I
| will write a couple of chars of garbage, long-press-select,
| then paste-replace.
|
| iOS strangely is full of these little hickups, it sometimes
| feels like back in Windows. (Also the auto correct is so
| annoyingly dumb and broken)
| andelink wrote:
| I do a light tap to bring up the copy/paste options. Long-
| press activates the navigation mode to drag the cursor.
| jmyeet wrote:
| You reminded me of another iOS UI/UX fail: the long press
| (and Force Touch).
|
| Apple famously for many years avoided adding a second mouse
| button. Steve Jobs was against it. Why? Because it lacked
| discoverability and consistency. He ultimately lost this
| because the context menu on Windows became pretty consistent
| and universal.
|
| But his ultimatel point applies to long presses (and
| similar): where is the discoverability? Most people don't
| realize this can do something different. If they do, there's
| no consistency to it.
|
| Even in your example, why would I expect to move the cursor
| around by long pressing the space bar? They added a non-
| intuitive gesture to make up for the failure they created by
| messing with the original copy and paste that worked just
| fine.
|
| Both apple and Google created a similar problem with the
| address bar on browsers. Notice how hard it is to delect part
| of a URL? Why would you want to do this? Example: removing
| the stupid text fragment on Google search results so you can
| copy and paste the URL.
|
| Click (or press) once and you select the whole URL. Click (or
| press) again and it brings up a menu with options like cut,
| copy and translate. To get rid of the selection you have to
| click _outside_ the selection area. Now you can click the
| text like the search term but it _snaps to word endings_.
| What if I want to just correct spelling without re-typing the
| whole word?
|
| All I want is to finely select in the URL and they've added
| so many extra steps and barriers to make this as difficult as
| possible in the name of "usability".
| andelink wrote:
| I'm a fan of the space bar navigation. It's not a
| replacement, it's an additional way to move the cursor.
| Feel free to tap to the position you'd like, or long-press-
| and-drag the cursor directly.
| aceazzameen wrote:
| Not just iOS. That's all mobile OS's, as they all keep trying
| to re-invent the wheel each year so they can have something big
| to unveil to shareholders and customers.
| sentientslug wrote:
| For point number one, you just tap in the empty space at the
| end of a line, so I'm not really sure what you mean. You can
| also hold your finger down and get the "magnifying glass"
| experience with the cursor just like you've always been able
| to.
| solarkraft wrote:
| Yet the biggest feature will (hopefully) be Digital Markets Act
| compliance.
| jdiez17 wrote:
| That was the main thing I was looking for as well. They could
| have either owned it or what seems more likely, they will flip
| a flag for EU users in a few months.
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| IIRC the deadline is in July, and they have to be DMA
| compliant for non-EU users' data too
| [deleted]
| MBCook wrote:
| I can't see them ever announcing that in a keynote. I don't
| think it's a feature that most users are asking for or would
| make them want to switch to the platform.
|
| I'm not denying it's good for users, just that I don't think it
| would be good for what is (highly) a marketing presentation for
| them at this point.
|
| I would expect that to be talked about in the developer state
| of the union this afternoon, or perhaps not even at all at this
| point.
| OkGoDoIt wrote:
| I was half expecting them to announce that with a flourish like
| it was some big innovation they came up with on their own.
| TheSoftwareGuy wrote:
| Some of the smaller updates will be a nice QOL bump for me:
|
| > For easier and more secure password and passkeys sharing, users
| can share passwords with a group of trusted contacts. Everyone in
| the group can add and edit passwords to keep them up to date.
| Since sharing is through iCloud Keychain, it's end-to-end
| encrypted.
|
| >Maps adds offline maps, so users can download a specific area
| and access turn-by-turn navigation, see their estimated time of
| arrival, find places in Maps, and more while offline. Maps also
| makes it easier than ever to discover thousands of trails in
| parks across the United States, and supports electric vehicle
| drivers with real-time charging availability information.
|
| >AirTag can be shared with up to five other people, allowing
| friends and family to keep track of an item in Find My. Everyone
| in a group will be able to see an item's location, play a sound,
| and use Precision Finding to help pinpoint the location of a
| shared AirTag when nearby. This also works with all other Find My
| network accessories.
| bsimpson wrote:
| Netflix: We're coming for your shared accounts.
|
| Apple: And here's how you can securely share those passwords.
| m463 wrote:
| How does netflix notice a shared account anyway?
|
| Is it just two devices accessing the same profile?
|
| how does it handle legitimate scenarios like the kid away at
| college or someone traveling?
| runjake wrote:
| Well, Netflix used to have a page[1] that specified how,
| but it's since been dumbed down. It used to say it uses a
| combination of IP addresses (and geoip), device IDs, and
| account activity from devices signed into your Netflix
| account.
|
| 1. https://help.netflix.com/en/node/123277
| rodgerd wrote:
| Credential sharing is a huge QoL improvement in an ordinary-
| folks kind of way, and very pleasing.
|
| Now if only the Contacts team would do the same.
| guestbest wrote:
| The offline mapping is huge since I went to big bend national
| park in texas and rerouting in one of the massive areas without
| a network would get a precise location using GPS on a black map
| that couldn't download. Also, I make sure to have a full tank
| of gas in the desert as the next gas station may be 90 miles
| away
| gumby wrote:
| PSA: for environments like that you really should have a
| paper map and a compass for the same reason you should make
| sure your tank is full.
|
| You don't have to be a wizard navigator or anything but those
| will operate when you have no signal and also show you a
| bigger picture of how to get where you want to go when you
| find you aren't where you want to be.
| singleshot_ wrote:
| OnX is outstanding. You might enjoy it.
| [deleted]
| paxys wrote:
| Google Maps has had offline maps support on iOS/Android for
| at least a decade now.
| com2kid wrote:
| Microsoft maps (prior to even Bing, I forget the official
| name) had downloaded maps back in 2007 on Windows Mobile
| 6.1.
|
| Apple is a bit late to the game here, but obviously this
| isn't a make it or break it feature for the success of a
| mobile platform!
| guestbest wrote:
| I tried that at the time, I did plan for this eventuality
| in Nov 2020, but I remember that this didn't work for that
| area. I forget why, but I was also trying to route towards
| gas stations since we were taking the scenic route and the
| stations were much further apart than I had expected. I
| also had a ham radio, but no programmed frequencies. It was
| like time traveling to the 1990's except I had XM radio
| robertoandred wrote:
| And now Apple Maps will have it, yay!
| bilsbie wrote:
| Paper maps have had this for centuries.
| matsemann wrote:
| HERE Maps by Nokia had offline maps, including search &
| navigation, over a decade ago. At the time Google had only
| offline maps with tiles and some POIs, no navigation or
| similar things.
| walterbell wrote:
| Here Maps is still available on iOS and Android with
| offline maps. Owned by an EU auto consortium and well
| maintained.
| perfectstorm wrote:
| i loved the HERE Maps when i had a Windows Phone. we
| navigated two countries in Europe without ever needing to
| turn on data roaming. this was back in 2013 i think? it
| was mind-blowingly good to navigate from one end of the
| country to the other end using just offline maps.
| shocks wrote:
| Yeah but navigation requires internet.
|
| I drove through Death Valley and thought I was super smart
| by pre-downloading the whole area...
| perfectstorm wrote:
| that's not true. it can navigate without internet as long
| as you have downloaded the maps ahead of time. i have
| definitely used it in a few parks including Death valley
| NP and it worked fine. maybe your download got corrupted
| somehow or expired?
| iamthepieman wrote:
| Not if the entire area is within the downloaded map. I've
| been using google maps this way for a while now since I
| live in a rural area without solid coverage.
| shocks wrote:
| Maybe because the drive was long (Vegas to Bakersfield)
| and covered multiple downloaded areas?
| noahchumsky wrote:
| I had to break it up into two legs to do a similar route
| (first to Lake Isabella then to Bakersfield)
| paxys wrote:
| It does not. You can navigate perfectly fine fully
| offline. In your case either the maps weren't downloaded
| correctly, or the phone was reporting that it had
| internet connectivity so the app was trying to use it
| over the offline cache. Putting it in airplane mode may
| have fixed it.
| umeshunni wrote:
| Other major mapping apps have had this feature for a decade
| throw0101c wrote:
| > _For easier and more secure password and passkeys sharing_
| [...]
|
| Note there is a IETF draft for credential transfers:
|
| * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-secure-credential-
| tra...
|
| Apple and Alphabet/Google as authors.
| [deleted]
| pkulak wrote:
| > AirTag can be shared with up to five other people
|
| Finally! Every time either me or my wife goes out of town we
| have to remove the luggage airtags from one account and add
| them back in to the other one. When my kid leaves his jacket
| somewhere at school, only his phone can find it. Super
| annoying.
| [deleted]
| rootusrootus wrote:
| Shared passwords/passkeys comes pretty close to eliminating my
| need for a 1Password subscription. But it kinda depends on what
| other login-associated details Apple lets you put together with
| the password.
| graftak wrote:
| ProBably TOTP and a comment entry field (that I use for
| recovery codes).
| dustyharddrive wrote:
| I wish we had more details on this
| (https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-17-preview/):
|
| > The expanded Lockdown Mode increases security to help protect
| against sophisticated cyber attacks.
|
| No support article updates or mentions in the Platforms State of
| the Union.
| seaghost wrote:
| Most of these features could be pushed as an app update, but here
| we are.
| TheJoeMan wrote:
| I believe the core apps have so much tech debt / tentacles
| throughout the OS that sadly they will never get to having say
| Messages update from the App Store. For example, the new
| Messages can pop up Photos overlay to generate a sticker. This
| would need to be an API to see if you have the latest Photos
| app with the sticker capability.
| avinoth wrote:
| Excited for the journal app! I was always uncomfortable trusting
| any of the existing apps and inevitably censor or give up writing
| my thoughts.
|
| I've even tried building several (4(!)) journaling apps in the
| past and it's still an unsolved problem for me. Right now i use a
| mix of obsidian and a self built journal app but that obviously
| has some drawbacks on its own.
|
| Microjournaling, photo context and able to share (along with
| local e2e) are on top of my list. Looks like it solves many of
| it.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| > I was always uncomfortable trusting any of the existing apps
|
| I still cannot understand why people are so trusting of things
| they put on their phone. It is so much easier for _anyone_ to
| get into your phone as opposed to your house or a safe in your
| house.
|
| You all are giving so much up just for this convenience, which
| will one day become inconvenient.
| syspec wrote:
| Probably because I've had my house broken into, but I've
| never had my data stolen off of my phone. Even when I have
| lost my phone, no one has been able to take anything out.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| > I've never had my data stolen off of my phone
|
| How would you know? In fact, you do not know this for
| certain. It is just wishful thinking. Marketing.
| derefr wrote:
| You seem to be conflating exfiltrating data from cloud
| services that the phone syncs with (which many state
| actors probably do en masse), with exfiltrating data held
| only on the device itself (which is something that you'd
| only expect from people who actively care about _your_
| data, e.g. police looking for evidence after you 've been
| arrested, criminal gangs who want your crypto-wallet
| keys, etc.)
|
| Modern phones are pretty good at stopping the latter
| class of attack; this is self-evident from the fact that
| this type of attacker is looking for specific things in
| order to _use_ them in a timely manner (use the evidence
| against you at trial; drain your crypto wallet to spend
| the funds themselves before you can move the funds
| elsewhere), and yet we rarely see people reporting that
| someone made use of their exfiltrated data in this way.
|
| PCs are much more vulnerable to this type of attack.
| There are tons of computer viruses that steal your crypto
| wallet.
| imafish wrote:
| Every time a UI update is pushed for the calling and messaging
| interface, there is a group of seniors that no longer know how to
| call or message family and friends.
| neilalexander wrote:
| Neither the phone nor the messaging interfaces have changed
| significantly. In fact the main day-to-day interactive elements
| are completely unchanged.
| dymk wrote:
| > AirTag can be shared with up to five other people, allowing
| friends and family to keep track of an item in Find My.
|
| awesome
| robnado wrote:
| Finally! We bought an AirTag to put on the dog, and it was
| disappointing that only one of us could see it. Hopefully, they
| also solve the issue with it beeping randomly to alert of
| tracking so that it doesn't beep when it's with anyone in the
| family.
| temptemptemp111 wrote:
| [dead]
| chankstein38 wrote:
| This is awesome! I'm excited to see the update! I wish there had
| been an update to the camera though. It's great I just use it a
| lot and would love to see how they improved pieces of it!
| OkGoDoIt wrote:
| Usually they announce camera updates at the September event
| when they announce new iPhones and other products. Today was
| about software and operating systems and developer platforms.
| Some hardware, but the bulk of hardware announcements come in a
| few months.
| MBCook wrote:
| WWDC is software, and sometimes new platforms (headset) or
| Macs.
|
| New iPhone models and their changes, like the camera, will be
| held until the iPhone event that is traditionally in September.
|
| That event often contains more iOS 17 features that they didn't
| want to mention today for strategic reasons (might give away
| hardware changes).
| ikekkdcjkfke wrote:
| Oh no...
| DANmode wrote:
| This is a low information comment.
|
| Could you update it?
| kylehotchkiss wrote:
| Can you download zoomed-out maps of the flight you're on? I
| always like to try to put the phone up against the window to see
| where you actually are (the maps on airplanes IFE are comically
| out of scale and hard to read with a 4inch poorly rotating
| airplane icon overlaid on them)
| robbiep wrote:
| I generally don't have any problem doing this on Google maps on
| my domestic Australian flights, in fact I almost always do it -
| great to see what's underneath me and just how fucking much
| nothing there is. Although the Qantas map when I'm flying on a
| plane with IFE does a pretty good job as well
| dan-robertson wrote:
| I don't know about the receivers in phones but my understanding
| of gps is that it's actually very slow to initialise if you
| don't already have a rough idea of where you are. Roughly, I
| think you try to guess where you are and do some dsp work that
| will successfully separate signal from noise if you guessed
| correctly. You do this first for the 'coarse navigation signal'
| and again for the fine one. I think there are ways to improve
| it, eg testing multiple locations in parallel but I don't know
| how much phones do those vs having good guesses (nearby cell
| towers, Wi-Fi, flights in your calendar can all be relevant
| signals to start with good guesses).
| user6723 wrote:
| What would make the iPhone personal and intuitive for me is an
| easy way to load apps without going through the app store.
| gnicholas wrote:
| I'd love to be able to update apps without going to the App
| Store. Just long-hold an app and have an update option, or at
| least a "see update in App Store" option. Most of the time I go
| to the App Store, I have to wait for it to load a bunch of ads,
| then click search, then type the app, then hit update.
| sharatvir wrote:
| I believe all iOS apps get updated automatically based on
| apples app rollout process.
|
| But you can still go do it via the App Store using fewer
| steps. Just click on your profile pic (top right) and you
| should see all available app updates.
| gnicholas wrote:
| I have auto updates turned off. I realize I can go into the
| update area and pick apps to update, but if I'm looking to
| update a specific one, it's usually faster to search and
| update that way.
| jdiez17 wrote:
| This is rumoured to be possible with iOS 17 [1]. They just
| didn't announce it explicitly.
|
| [1] if you are in the EU :^)
| huhtenberg wrote:
| ... and this all but completes transition from Jobs' Apple of "we
| know what's good for you" to non-Jobs' Apple of "the more the
| merrier, let's just stuff it with all we have".
|
| The pattern is repeating except now there's no Steve to take the
| company back and smack some opinionated design sense into it.
| koolba wrote:
| > NameDrop allows users to easily share contact information by
| simply bringing their iPhone devices together.
|
| Bump lives!
| londons_explore wrote:
| Didn't Android have this in circa 2013?
| EscapeFromNY wrote:
| Yes, but Apple's version has a fancy swooshing animation
| jeroenhd wrote:
| 2011, actually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Beam
| mholt wrote:
| I still wish for this on almost a daily basis. Maybe
| Android still has it, but no one uses it anymore except me
| :(
| londons_explore wrote:
| It isn't enabled on android by default anymore.
|
| Which means the "bump to see this video" turns into "hang
| on, go into settings and hunt for nearby share, probably
| hidden in the 'Other' menu..."
| Jtsummers wrote:
| Bump predated that and was available on both iPhone and
| Android which is what the OP in this thread was almost
| certainly referring to since that's the app they named.
| rektide wrote:
| And easily one of the most enjoyable computing
| experiences out there. Very physical. And cooperative
| multi-player by nature. Many great things here.
|
| I wish Web NFC had a publish mode where we could web hack
| something like this.
| jeroenhd wrote:
| Looks like Android Beam has finally been ported to iOS after
| Android removed it because nobody ever used it.
| bsimpson wrote:
| Reminds me of the very useful swipe-to-camera gesture that
| Android scrapped in favor of whatever they copied from Apple
| that year. Apple subsequently copied the swipe-to-camera
| feature, and Android never saw it again.
|
| We have double-power-to-camera, which is arguably better than
| a swipe. Still, I'd like to see Android/Google have some
| confidence. Too often, we end up with half-assed "me-too"s
| from Google.
| bitwize wrote:
| Now that Apple supports it, it'll become useful and popular.
| dijit wrote:
| Apples innovations are often in making things that other
| people have tried before and making them polished and usable.
|
| So, despite it being failed in Android; it'll probably work
| well in Apples ecosystem. -- Apples true innovations (3D
| touch for example) have a much higher chance of not being
| used and going away.
| Turing_Machine wrote:
| Yes. Apple rarely makes the first $THING, but they often
| make the first $THING that doesn't suck.
| marpstar wrote:
| That and the fact that there is _one_ version of iOS, and
| Android has traditionally been very fragmented. Without
| widespread availability from "day one", these things just
| don't catch on.
|
| See also: the resurgence of QR codes post iOS 11...
| [deleted]
| jbverschoor wrote:
| Maybe the patent expired and Apple didn't want to share the
| number of devices sold?
| spitfire wrote:
| So like the palmpilot had in the 1990's.. Cool. But i'm so over
| people recycling old ideas and pretending they're new.
| skellera wrote:
| If they work better now (maybe limitations in the past like
| transfer speeds), what's the problem?
| solarmist wrote:
| No ones pretending they're new.
|
| Apple doesn't do new hotness. It finds experimental tech and
| if it can make it great then it'll grab it. It's always at a
| minimum 5 years behind new developments. As you point out
| sometimes decades.
|
| I consider that their greatest strength though. Taking
| something with potential and starting to realize that
| potential.
| yieldcrv wrote:
| Dot cards dies! along with every NFC business card
| faitswulff wrote:
| I would love to see this feature implemented for Vision Pro
| high_priest wrote:
| Kiss to prove you trust the other person['s personal higene]
| high_priest wrote:
| Kiss to prove you trust the other person('s personal higene)
| cheschire wrote:
| iPhone XS or later... I guess the iPhone 8 and the X are losing
| support now or did I interpret this wrong?
| MuffinFlavored wrote:
| Sep 12, 2017 -- Apple announces iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus,
| featuring a new glass and aluminum design, Retina HD displays,
| A11 Bionic chip and wireless ...
|
| Sep 12, 2017 -- "iPhone X is the future of the smartphone. It
| is packed with incredible new technologies, like the innovative
| TrueDepth camera system, beautiful ...
|
| 6 year old phone
| dangus wrote:
| You are correct.
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