[HN Gopher] Don't let Reddit kill 3rd party apps
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Don't let Reddit kill 3rd party apps
Author : netfortius
Score : 81 points
Date : 2023-06-03 19:41 UTC (3 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (old.reddit.com)
| tapper wrote:
| This will fuck over a bunch of blind people. Using the site is
| just not doable with a screen reader. There has bin aps made for
| blind people to use and these will all stop working.
| thih9 wrote:
| Why is it such a problem to create a reddit clone?
|
| I'm assuming it's the user base; most attempts I've seen are
| either empty or focus on non-mainstream and often controversial
| content.
|
| Are there ways to address that? Or is there something else?
| ronsor wrote:
| I've written three of them. It's not technically difficult, but
| good luck getting people to actually use it (and if you do, you
| may end up with a userbase worse than 4chan).
| regecks wrote:
| There is years and years and years of amazing content and
| community on Reddit. Rallying people around a replacement looks
| challenging. I am hopeful that it happens.
| hkt wrote:
| Lemmy is pretty good, and is working towards full activitypub
| federation:
|
| https://join-lemmy.org/
|
| As for the usage.. there's some, but it is niche. The average
| user just won't move unless something goes from so-so-
| satisfactory to offensive. This is how mastodon got its
| (seemingly brief) user spike.
| holler wrote:
| There are dozens of Reddit clones, many have come and gone. In
| my eyes they don't work because they aren't novel or
| innovative. There's no reason to switch for the average user.
| cabalamat wrote:
| It's mostly the user base.
|
| An idea: Twitter has lots of users, maybe Elon could build
| Reddit-like features into it.
| dimmke wrote:
| Reddit, making a blatantly obvious case for why third party apps
| are necessary on a post about stopping third party apps:
| https://i.imgur.com/3yEJ4oX.jpg
| puppable wrote:
| I believe I encountered a situation like this before, and what
| it _really_ means is that you just have to log in to see it,
| and Reddit is just lying to you.
|
| I may be wrong in this case, though.
| ehPReth wrote:
| seems to work when being logged in on the mobile site.
| they're just really really damn pushy for that stupid app
| batch12 wrote:
| I have bypassed that in the past on mobile by switching to
| desktop view (ugh).
| Spivak wrote:
| Switching to old.reddit works for me.
| ok_dad wrote:
| Yep, nearly any important posts seem to be labeled as NSFW so
| you won't be able to see them other than how Reddit wants to
| have you see them. This is the future we paid for with enormous
| amounts of VC money.
| dimmke wrote:
| I have Reddit posts auto open in Apollo but specifically went
| to this one in browser to see how bad it's gotten. It's not
| just an annoying pop up. You literally cannot use most of
| Reddit in a mobile browser now.
|
| And I came from the link in this post which was supposed to
| go to old.reddit
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| That's how dire things are. I have been a reddit user since
| 2009, almost 15 years. But I'm not a nostalgic person. As
| awful as it has gotten it's still the place where most
| discussion on the internet happens (and has happened for over
| a decade.) That can't just be replaced overnight. They're
| sitting on a huuuuge amount of content that is fully indexed
| by search engines too. This would be a huge blow to the
| internet in general I think. All so they can have a Groupon
| style IPO.
| andrewflnr wrote:
| old.reddit.com is tolerable on mobile.
| acheron wrote:
| I think we've beaten this horse to death now.
| ehPReth wrote:
| Apollo et al. are still under threat
| paulcole wrote:
| Can't they just charge an amount sufficient to cover their
| costs and earn whatever profit they want and find out if they
| have a viable business?
| bmarquez wrote:
| Also, this article talks about a protest (which is new
| information, unlike previous HN submissions which only
| reported the changes.)
| Nullabillity wrote:
| Problems don't go away just because you're bored of thinking
| about them.
| davidktr wrote:
| Interesting interview with the developer of the most popular 3rd
| part app about the issue.
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypwgu1BpaO0
| dubcee349 wrote:
| Just in Hacker news is the new reddit.
| greggsy wrote:
| With shitpost comments like this, perhaps, but I sure do hope
| it doesn't.
|
| I'm genuinely interested to hear any views from HN's admins
| around traffic observations, and what their plans might be to
| maintain the current level of sanity with respect to post and
| comment quality.
| MarcoZavala wrote:
| [dead]
| fallat wrote:
| Yes, let the Big Tech eat themselves. This is how progress is
| made.
| andrewflnr wrote:
| I can't see Reddit as "Big Tech". It's absolutely not in the
| same weight class as Google, Facebook/Meta, et al. Which is not
| to say it shouldn't be allowed to die, but if nothing else we
| should keep the true scale in mind.
| echelon wrote:
| Reddit is trying everything it can to salvage its IPO and rescue
| investors from being underwater.
|
| https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/01/fidelity-reddit-valuation/
| Magnusmaster wrote:
| Reddit shouldn't even try to go IPO. It's basically a
| collection of forums. They should be a private company that
| makes a small profit hosting the forums instead of trying to be
| like Facebook
| ep103 wrote:
| The enshitification continues
| futhey wrote:
| Ironically, Reddit doesn't have any interesting technology or a
| novel product design; it fails to compete as an ad-tech
| platform. They are just a community. Its value is the goodwill
| of the Reddit members, and that's it. Their revenue is Reddit
| awards and premium memberships.
|
| Acting against the interests of their own users will make the
| platform less valuable in the long-term if moderators and users
| lose trust in the platform.
| jhart wrote:
| [dead]
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