[HN Gopher] Thoughts on React vs. Vue vs. Everything Else in 2023
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       Thoughts on React vs. Vue vs. Everything Else in 2023
        
       Author : belter
       Score  : 12 points
       Date   : 2023-06-02 17:44 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | thejazzman wrote:
       | Dealing with url-driven /query-params in react... I miss ember.
       | So much.
        
       | politelemon wrote:
       | > developers need to be more vigilant with React code as
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       | > articles on managing this complexity that every React developer
       | should read
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       | Here's the thing. You can do your best to spread how things ought
       | to be done and what people should be doing. The majority of
       | developers are not going to be vigilant, nor are they going to
       | read these, nor does it occur to them that they're being
       | suffering from its complexity. In a way it's similar to git -
       | people use git because other people use git. It lets you get into
       | difficult situations. The difference is that git also lets you
       | get out quickly. Web codebases are not so forgiving, a lot of
       | mistakes can be forever as it's costly to unwind.
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       | I've encountered this a few times before realizing we were doing
       | a lot better with Angular. It's not as popular, and its
       | complexity does not grow as fast. Similarly for Vue as the author
       | noted.
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       | > but I do sense that there is a growing wave against the
       | complexity brought forth by the current champs.
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       | I certainly hope so, but I'm not seeing it. The industry seems to
       | prefer the most complicated solution in different areas. k8s has
       | won the orchestration mindshare and demonstrates a similar
       | pattern of complexity and maintenance.
        
       | FractalHQ wrote:
       | Svelte is still the best by just about every metric that matters.
       | The consensus seems to be clear that once you get a real taste of
       | the Svelte DX, everything else is a downgrade.
        
         | thoughtpalette wrote:
         | Except the job market and/or trying to hire svelte developers.
        
       | agufal wrote:
       | Every time I try to do something with modern JS I'm reminded of
       | this blog post (https://peterxjang.com/blog/modern-javascript-
       | explained-for-...) And also every time I end up giving up because
       | it's so damn complex
        
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