[HN Gopher] UFOs: What we learned from NASA's public meeting
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       UFOs: What we learned from NASA's public meeting
        
       Author : beefman
       Score  : 11 points
       Date   : 2023-05-31 21:39 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.bbc.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bbc.com)
        
       | thedangler wrote:
       | I'm taking a different approach to disclosing UFOs If they did
       | come out and say " yeah we've known for a while" you have to
       | realize that the world economy would crash.
       | 
       | Eventually there would be Instant transportation for everyone and
       | Free energy for everyone
       | 
       | That is why disclosure will never happen until the powers that be
       | all die off or something unimaginable happens.
       | 
       | My two cents.
        
         | Spk-17 wrote:
         | The number of people you know who have already had close
         | encounters is incredible, it cannot be that they are all crazy,
         | something has to be true and it is true that they are covering
         | it up for that reason. It makes us believe that this is not
         | possible and that there is nothing more than what they sell us,
         | but surely there is much more than we imagine. But going back
         | to what we know, I'm sure we all have a familiar person who
         | claims to have seen something strange.
        
           | Zetice wrote:
           | Why can't it be that all self reported close encounters are
           | "crazy"?
        
           | skissane wrote:
           | > The number of people you know who have already had close
           | encounters is incredible, it cannot be that they are all
           | crazy, something has to be true
           | 
           | How many people in this world claim to have had close
           | encounters with supernatural entities-deities, spirits,
           | angels, demons, ghosts, etc? It cannot be that they are all
           | crazy, something has to be true
           | 
           | If you aren't convinced by that argument, you shouldn't be
           | convinced by your own, because its logic is the same
        
         | throwawaymanbot wrote:
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       | Loquebantur wrote:
       | So there are sizable objects in Earth's atmosphere that do not
       | belong to any known actor and display superior technological
       | capability.
       | 
       | DoD, NASA & Co react with pointedly blase attitude, pretending
       | there was nothing remarkable about that.
       | 
       | Does HN buy into that?
        
       | Zetice wrote:
       | > "We have 50 to 100-ish new reports each month," said Sean
       | Kirkpatrick, director of Nasa's All-domain Anomaly Resolution
       | Office (AARO).
       | 
       | > But he said the number of those sightings which are "possibly
       | really anomalous" are 2% to 5% of the total database.
       | 
       | So... 1-2 per month that are even in the "possible" category, and
       | given the anecdotes around lunch microwaves and "turns out it was
       | a commercial aircraft" this is not going to be the all-revealing
       | report some folks are looking for.
        
         | Loquebantur wrote:
         | Kirkpatrick's slide notes of those UAP's typical
         | characteristics: _round_ , 1-4 meters diameter,
         | white/silver/translucent, at 10K-30K feet altitude, _up to Mach
         | 2_ , _no thermal exhaust_
         | 
         | That is quite revealing in my book. Those are no conventionally
         | powered "drones".
        
           | Zetice wrote:
           | That's reported, not verified. It would say "tentacled oblong
           | rectangle" if that's what got submitted.
        
       | hashstring wrote:
       | I dislike that the article is filled with the false positive (FP)
       | anecdotes. It's important to state that there are many false
       | positives, there must be. However, the focus should be on
       | minimizing these FPs while maximizing true signal, and
       | investigating these in depth. Everything that is potentially true
       | signal, is what I want to read about, not something something
       | microwaves during lunchtime.
        
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