[HN Gopher] The Diaries of Franz Kafka
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       The Diaries of Franz Kafka
        
       Author : lermontov
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2023-05-30 05:57 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | xhevahir wrote:
       | I read an article a few years ago that convinced me that Kafka's
       | peculiar quality--the famous "Kafkaesque"--isn't due to his
       | experience with Austro-Hungarian bureaucracy, or his being a
       | German-speaking Jew surrounded by Czech-speaking Catholics, or
       | any of the other reasons commonly suggested--it was mostly his
       | autism. (The author was an obscure, independent scholar named
       | Jerry Stuger, although I don't remember the title.)
        
         | beezlewax wrote:
         | Bit weird to posthumously diagnose someone with autism. At best
         | it would be an interesting hypothesis.
        
           | xhevahir wrote:
           | Yes, he's dead. So, for that matter, are Newton and Einstein,
           | whose autistic traits have been discerned by none other than
           | the world's leading expert in the field:
           | https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3676-einstein-and-
           | new... .
        
             | snotrockets wrote:
             | A person can have autistic traits without being autistic.
             | The diagnosis is how the symptoms affect the person as a
             | whole, and if "Symptoms cause clinically significant
             | impairment in social, occupational, or other important
             | areas of current functioning" (which is why it's so hard to
             | diagnose adults, because many undiagnosed autistics learned
             | to mask their difficulties).
             | 
             | That's why you don't diagnose based on rumors or historical
             | records. It's unscientific and unethical. And as Glenn
             | Elliott is quoted in the link you shared: "One can imagine
             | geniuses who are socially inept and yet not remotely
             | autistic, impatience with the intellectual slowness of
             | others, narcissism and passion for one's mission in life
             | might combine to make such an individuals isolative and
             | difficult."
             | 
             | Baron-Cohen himself is very much proponent of Asperger
             | abelist view of autism: an ouccrance of some super-
             | intelligent boys with social deficiencies. That definition
             | isn't much accepted nowdays, when we know autism doesn't
             | necessarily cohabitates with better cofnitive abilities, or
             | being AMAB.
        
               | xhevahir wrote:
               | I'll bite. Why is it unethical? As for its being
               | unscientific, I'm also curious as to what standards of
               | evidence people think are appropriate to biographical and
               | literary-historical matters.
        
           | snotrockets wrote:
           | Not weird, just unethical and unscientific.
        
       | vcg3rd wrote:
       | Another First Things reader on HN. Nice!
        
       | liquid153 wrote:
       | Not Apache Kafka RTFM
        
       | kieselguhr_kid wrote:
       | > In his introduction to an edition of Metamorphosis, the
       | novelist Adam Thirlwell suggests that we have misunderstood Kafka
       | much as Magarshack said we had misunderstood Chekhov, and that
       | Kafka is much more playful than we have hitherto given him credit
       | for.
       | 
       | When I was 17, I read Kafka for the first time and was put off by
       | what I saw as the dour and oppressive atmosphere. I had the same
       | insight as Thirlwell when I reread him ~10 years later: Kafka's
       | works have a sort of deadpan and absurdist humor to them and
       | shouldn't be treated as seriously as they often are. I wonder how
       | much of that humor is lost in translation.
        
       | quercusa wrote:
       | _The translation must have been a labor both of love and of
       | Hercules. There are 1,403 endnotes for 564 pages of text--that is
       | to say, 2.4836252 endnotes per page--to inform us of every
       | literary allusion, and every geographical location mentioned,
       | down to the number of a street: an admirable thoroughness that I
       | should be tempted to call Teutonic if stereotyping were not so
       | frowned upon these days._
        
         | ftxbro wrote:
         | > "an admirable thoroughness that I should be tempted to call
         | Teutonic if stereotyping were not so frowned upon these days."
         | 
         | weaponized teutism
        
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