[HN Gopher] Plane: Open-Source Alternative to Atlassian's Jira
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Plane: Open-Source Alternative to Atlassian's Jira
Author : viharkurama
Score : 116 points
Date : 2023-05-30 19:42 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| simmanian wrote:
| I've been looking for a competitive open source alternative to
| Jira for a non-profit I volunteer at because they cannot afford
| to pay for any cloud service and Trello has its limitations. Does
| Plane offer all pro features for open source instances as well?
| Does it support login via Google or other identity providers?
| lstamour wrote:
| Edit: I should clarify, supporting open source is the best
| possible model for price pressure and innovation, especially in
| the cloud hosting space, but I also wanted to let other non-
| profits know about the discount if Jira is too expensive per-
| user due to volunteers, etc.
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| FYI, Atlassian has a non-profits license. While the cloud
| version only has a discount so you still have to pay per user,
| the on-prem version is free. Best part about running on-prem
| under this license is that a lot of on-prem extensions have
| opted in to atlassian marketplace licensing and offer free
| plans for non-profits. While this would be expensive to do in
| the cloud, because the plugins run on your server, it's
| basically free for everyone involved. The downside is you still
| have to manage and renew licenses, and don't expect too much
| support given the free price.
|
| > Atlassian also offers free Data Center (self-managed)
| licenses for registered charitable non-profit organizations
| that are non-government, non-academic, non-commercial in
| nature, non-political, and have no religious affiliation.
|
| More at https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/purchase-
| licensing#trial... under the faq question about non-profit
| pricing...
| simmanian wrote:
| unfortunately, we are a buddhist organization so we do not
| qualify.
| smallerfish wrote:
| Check out Youtrack - not open source, but free if you have 10
| or fewer users.
| simmanian wrote:
| we are trying to work with ~35 volunteers for this purpose,
| but i will check it out nonetheless.
| viharkurama wrote:
| Youtrack is great but complicated with it's UX. Code level
| extensibility with Project management tools is near zero. We
| are working on our extensibility framework called Propel, it
| gives you the ability to write code with React to extend
| Plane. Open-sourcing in Q3 2023.
| kirbyfan64sos wrote:
| Check out Taiga: https://www.taiga.io/
|
| By the creators of Penpot, free plan is basically only missing
| premium support. Not sure about the login though...there seem
| to be some plugins for it, not sure how that works with the
| hosted version?
| simmanian wrote:
| thanks! looks like it's also open source as well.
| viharkurama wrote:
| We have a singular focus working only on Plane and making it
| big for everyone. We are still in early stages, so had to
| rush on few decisions, but we treat every user the same.
| 29athrowaway wrote:
| It's weird that the landing page has "Joe" and "Leo" (uncommon
| names in India), as placeholder users, but the authors are from
| India.
| gervwyk wrote:
| It is weird to hight this as feedback. Choosing very common
| names for a product intended for a global audience. How is that
| weird?
| jimbru wrote:
| What's the tl;dr comparison with Linear?
| viharkurama wrote:
| Hey, Linear is opinionated in it's philosophy of Project
| management and the usage of terminology. We do accommodate all
| the features that linear has in a general way. Plane is
| extensible where users can build the framework of their choice.
| esafak wrote:
| Can you compare it with Height too?
| donalhunt wrote:
| How widespread is Ctrl + K -> insert URL?? Because using it for
| something else could cause confusion (already encountered on
| other platforms).
| jeroenhd wrote:
| I'm pretty sure that's the cross browser shortcut for "search
| with default search engine". At least on the browsers I usually
| encounter it is.
|
| These types of shortcut key overrides are why I've got them
| disabled in my browser by default.
| lucb1e wrote:
| For anyone else frustrated, a quick workaround is to do
| Ctrl+FK instead of Ctrl+K on offending websites. Focuses the
| browser UI's search input which then makes the Ctrl+K bubble
| up from the browser UI instead of the website's document
| tree.
| findthebug wrote:
| mmh, on ipad i cant add an new issue. my issues > add issue.
| enter title/desc, click add issue. issue is not saved, all fields
| blank
| smallerfish wrote:
| I love seeing competition for Jira, because it needs to die, but
| I think you need to do a better job explaining your value prop.
| Your first bullet list of features doesn't really make it sound
| all that different. Why would I have a better time using this
| than Jira, bearing in mind that I'd be giving up custom workflows
| and probably a lot of integrations? (No shade intended. If you
| can answer that concisely, put that at the top of your copy.)
|
| Also, please consider finding a native english copywriter to take
| a run at your writing. It's readable, but not fluent, and overly
| filled with jargon.
| justinpombrio wrote:
| One feature they have that Jira does not: the ability for a
| customer to avoid multi-week outages. Jira went down for some
| customers and took weeks to restore. A customer could avoid
| this possibility by hosting locally, but I hear Jira is phasing
| out local hosting while Plane lists it as a feature.
|
| Another feature Plane probably has: not being horribly laggy.
| You could make a ticket in Jira with a bunch of links or
| whatever the hell it is that makes Jira load so slowly, and
| make an identical ticket in Plane, and compare the loading
| times. From my Jira experiences it shouldn't be hard to be 10x
| faster.
|
| https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252515706...
| viharkurama wrote:
| Thanks for the feedback! We will definitely work on it.
| nberkman wrote:
| One advantage you have: a BAA, required for HIPAA compliance,
| is only available with a very expensive Enterprise plan. For
| HIPAA compliant organizations, a self-hosted alternative
| could be very attractive.
| jacobsenscott wrote:
| Can it auto-delete issues untouched for the last 30 days? Idk if
| jira can, but this would be the single biggest productivity boost
| to any organization forced to use this sort of software.
| simmanian wrote:
| for jira (and I assume many other similar products), it is
| definitely possible
| DrAwesome wrote:
| I played around with Plane locally a little bit about a month ago
| - I think it's really promising! I wish the documentation was a
| little better, though; I had to dig around through the source
| code to figure out how to get the OpenAI/GPT-powered features to
| work locally. I also wish it supported the gpt-3.5-turbo model
| instead of relying on the InstructGPT models (like text-
| davinci-003) for those features (while this isn't exactly a
| "chat" use-case, I think the chat model would still do a good
| job, and the 1/10 token cost would be nice).
|
| I'm planning to set up a Plane instance for my friend group as
| soon as it supports OpenID Connect (SAML would work as well, but
| I imagine OIDC is coming first, since it's a lot more sane). We
| have some small projects we maintain, and we desperately need a
| nice issue tracking tool like this.
| echelon wrote:
| Please build a startup on this. I don't want to run a Jira
| alternative myself. I'll pay you to do it for me.
|
| Edit: looks like you do [1]! Perfect! I'll sign up shortly and
| give it a spin.
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| [1] https://plane.so
| viharkurama wrote:
| thanks echelon, we are working hard to make it happen in a more
| simple and extensible way. Also Open source :)
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