[HN Gopher] A Coder in Courierland (2005)
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       A Coder in Courierland (2005)
        
       Author : keiferski
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2023-05-29 12:31 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | lkbm wrote:
       | > And what exactly does a bike courier spend all this time
       | carting from Alpha to Beta?. Undramatically, it is mostly just
       | legal documents and cheques. I fear that once average people get
       | more comfortable with internet encryption, courier companies will
       | go out of business.
       | 
       | Any data on how this has panned out? I'd imagine that it has
       | declined a lot, but sometimes you still do just need to deliver a
       | physical document.
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       | One thing that occasionally stands out to me in Agatha Christie
       | novels is that London had twice-daily mail delivery in the early-
       | to-mid 1900s. You'd post a letter in the morning and it would
       | arrive in the evening. It wouldn't replace the "we need this
       | across town in an hour", but it's always been interesting to me
       | that delivery service downsized when telephones became
       | commonplace. It would make sense for courier services to do the
       | same with email, the web, and SSL.
        
         | NikkiA wrote:
         | When I lived in Hatfield briefly in the 1980s, we had thrice-
         | daily post delivery, 9am, noon and 9pm. I imagine it was an
         | artifact of de Havilland's influence.
        
         | colanderman wrote:
         | When I was growing up in Rhode Island in the 90s we had twice-
         | daily _newspaper_ delivery.
        
         | ido wrote:
         | While you'd expect the documents to be digital these, there's a
         | lot more delivery of food and consumer products bought online
         | than there was in 2005.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Related:
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       |  _A Coder in Courierland_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=268768 - Aug 2008 (29
       | comments)
        
       | jazzido wrote:
       | Haven't thought of Kuro5hin for years. Man, the memories. What a
       | great site.
        
       | hcs wrote:
       | Great read!
       | 
       | > Gibson and Stephenson had taught me that the messenger, the
       | mailman, was a vital romantic figure.
       | 
       | It seemed weird to me that both Snow Crash and Virtual Light had
       | main characters who were couriers. When I read Virtual Light I
       | thought "oh, so this is what Snow Crash was parodying," but nope,
       | it came out a year later. I didn't grow up in a city so that job
       | was something I only encountered in fiction (aside from pizza and
       | Chinese delivery).
        
         | marttt wrote:
         | The comments for the parent article included an excellent
         | longread on bike messenger culture in Boston:
         | https://web.archive.org/web/20050314012405/http://www.bikesu...
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         | Also, that early 2000s internet was indeed a fine place to be
         | in. Simple pages with well-crafted long-form, using Verdana --
         | what more do you need.
        
       | scubbo wrote:
       | > I think I may be the only courier who even knows what PHB
       | means.
       | 
       | Player's Handbook? ;)
       | 
       | (Yes, I know they mean the Scott Adams creation)
        
       | sychou wrote:
       | I was expecting a tale of using Courier for a programming font.
        
         | Torwald wrote:
         | Yeah, me too. I hoped for a killer-reason to switch to Courier
         | with a smug sense of superiority.
        
       | ido wrote:
       | I remember reading this great entry when it came up almost 20
       | years ago! Still a good read, despite some of the details having
       | since went out of date.
        
       | juujian wrote:
       | > once you've learned your chops you should be up in the $10 -
       | $12CAD
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       | I forgot about the (2005). That is below the (very low) current
       | minimum wage of $16.55 CAD in Ontario. And that minimum wage is
       | not sufficient to survive in Toronto. Wouldn't be surprised if
       | couriers were paid minimum wage today, or maybe a dollar or two
       | over. Seems to be the trend for 'manual labor'.
        
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