[HN Gopher] Making $10k/m from a French learning app
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       Making $10k/m from a French learning app
        
       Author : geocrasher
       Score  : 73 points
       Date   : 2023-05-26 17:14 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | supertofu wrote:
       | Wow! I was a French major in college but my ability to speak
       | French plummeted after I returned from studying in Paris. I love
       | this app's recording feature! It's so helpful to record yourself
       | speaking and then compare your recording to the native speaker. I
       | only wish the app had an advanced track! I'm pretty sure I'll
       | have exhausted all the intermediate lessons by 6 months from now.
       | 
       | In any case, I am absolutely delighted by this app and it has
       | brought out my inner Francophile :)
        
         | kieloo wrote:
         | Hey! I'm the app creator. I'm really glad you are enjoying it.
         | 
         | I plan on adding more advanced lessons and an constantly
         | improving it so there could be an advanced track within the
         | next few months.
         | 
         | In any case, feel free to shout me an email if you have any
         | feedback/feature request.
        
       | Adiqq wrote:
       | Personally I find it hard to believe that it's simple for people
       | to start profitable online business. Some people might be lucky
       | and can promote themselves well, but how many fail? How often
       | freelancers are approached with "great ideas for application",
       | but there's zero chance to find paying clients for it. How much
       | can anyone do alone, in comparison to all these big corporations
       | or even smaller companies with dozens employees dedicated to some
       | specific niche?
       | 
       | Maybe I'm overthinking, but I can't see how single person can do
       | this, without really good idea.
        
       | Pete-Codes wrote:
       | Cheers for posting this. That's my site! It's very cool how he
       | learned to code so quickly as well. I'm glad Benjamin can share
       | his story with everyone.
       | 
       | So many people want to learn languages as well so it's a huge
       | market to sell to. Very smart.
       | 
       | Plenty more stories like this coming out every Wednesday in the
       | newsletter btw https://www.highsignal.io/newsletter/
        
       | lisasays wrote:
       | So real quickly - how does this app differ from the little green
       | bird?
        
         | rozenmd wrote:
         | Duolingo is useless for learning to speak to people, for one
        
           | KerrAvon wrote:
           | You won't be able to hold a fluent conversation based only on
           | Duolingo, but it's not _useless_.
        
           | ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
           | True. I learnt Swedish on it. Pretty high score and
           | everything. Landed in Sweden. Couldn't understand a thing.
        
           | bdcravens wrote:
           | I wouldn't say it's useless. Won't make you fluent, but I've
           | found the short phrases I can use (just a little over a year
           | of Duolingo, plus HS Spanish classes in the late 90s) useful
           | in a few situations. (I'm in the Houston area, so it's pretty
           | common to encounter Hispanics who do not speak English well)
           | 
           | Of course, we live in a world where the translations apps on
           | ours phones are approaching a "universal translator" level.
        
           | sfblah wrote:
           | My experience: Essentially all consumer language learning
           | apps are only useful for learning up to maybe CEFR A2 or B1.
           | That makes sense, because that's all the typical consumer has
           | patience for. Going beyond this basically requires hiring a
           | tutor, because so few people ever progress to that point.
        
           | omgsean wrote:
           | My wife has like a 230 day streak in Duolingo and every time
           | I speak any Spanish to her (I'm like early intermediate level
           | maybe) she doesn't understand. She's just hooked on making
           | number go up.
        
             | KerrAvon wrote:
             | 230 days is not very far in if you're doing the minimum
             | each day, but something simple? ?Donde esta el gato?
        
             | forgotusername6 wrote:
             | I have a 1400+ day streak in Russian. I can only understand
             | the odd word or two when I listen to a native speaker.
        
             | nuclearwast wrote:
             | Duolingo is kind of garbage. As a native french, for fun, I
             | tried to quickly finish the whole french course. I quit
             | well before halfway. Duolingo would refuse perfectly fine
             | sentences. The accepted answers aren't flexible enough.
             | 
             | I didn't try english though.
             | 
             | Esperanto is super easy if you speak both french and
             | english. But man there is less content on the internet than
             | klingon...
        
           | shagymoe wrote:
           | True but it's not totally useless. My comprehension is
           | probably north of 80% but I can't speak as fast as I'd like,
           | which is frustrating.
        
         | blamazon wrote:
         | I've not used the little green bird, but quoting the French
         | Together website: [1]
         | 
         | > Your French learning journey starts by listening to a fun and
         | realistic conversation between Jerome, Elodie, Stephane and the
         | other professional voice actors who worked on this French.
         | course.
         | 
         | > They speak fast, don't they? That's how all French people
         | speak (especially Parisians, they are the worst!) Don't worry
         | though, French Together comes with audio recorded at both slow
         | and normal speed.
         | 
         | > Listening to the slow audio helps you train your ears to
         | recognize French sounds while listening to the normal audio
         | prepares you for real life French.
         | 
         | > Do this for a few weeks and you could dramatically improve
         | your understanding of spoken French. Oh and the course also
         | includes audio from a variety of speakers so you get used to
         | different accents and intonations and don't end up having to
         | ask locals to repeat when you go to France.
         | 
         | [1]: https://frenchtogether.com/?cta=blog-menu
        
           | lisasays wrote:
           | C'est bon - thanks for tidy summary.
        
           | codyb wrote:
           | Watching the Yankees in Spanish all season has really
           | improved my ability to listen to Spanish. Combined with Anki
           | spaced repetition flashcards (conjugation and vocabulary),
           | Duo Lingo for some general practice, and Pimsleur for
           | speaking and listening I suspect I'll be pretty decent by the
           | end of the year!
           | 
           | It's definitely a whole skill to be able to listen and
           | disambiguate words spoken at a native speaker's pace in a
           | second (or nth) language.
        
             | canadiantim wrote:
             | Pimsleur pretty clutch
        
             | simonbarker87 wrote:
             | I'm doing something similar for Spanish: listening to News
             | in Slow Spanish podcast, Pimsleur, Memrise and then also
             | paying for a tutor through Italki which has really been
             | helping.
        
               | omgsean wrote:
               | Check out Dreaming Spanish, hours and hours and hours of
               | free comprehensible input content, and then some premium
               | content on top of that when you run out. It's been great
               | for my listening comprehension.
        
       | droobles wrote:
       | I'm (re)learning French this year and I'll check out this app,
       | looks cool.
       | 
       | It seems many newer language apps are starting to focus on the
       | "comprehensible input" method touted by language learning
       | influencers like Steve Kauffmann, and at least for me it's
       | definitely working. Comprehensible input (video content, books)
       | along with weekly practice on iTalki has absolutely skyrocketed
       | my language learning progress and really I only put in ~5hrs a
       | week. Lots of money in the post-covid market for language
       | learning as it was a hobby a lot of people picked up in
       | quarantine.
        
       | zikohh wrote:
       | Is it just me who thought there was a mobile app not a web app?
        
         | kieloo wrote:
         | I'm the app creator. I'm working on a mobile app but I wanted
         | to start with a web app since I'm new to coding. I can't
         | promise anything but I'm hoping to release a mobile app within
         | the next few months.
        
       | eterm wrote:
       | Can we edit the title to be /month?
       | 
       | m is usually minute, I went in expecting a vulnerability writeup,
       | although the sub-header made it quickly clear it was a write-up
       | of a product.
       | 
       | Good clear write up of the product and it's journey though. Nice
       | "boring technologies" of wordpress and rails.
        
         | 1kurac wrote:
         | $/mo is widely used.
        
         | Gualdrapo wrote:
         | I'd always known m in measures as meter, so I read it as
         | they're making $10K per meter.
        
           | triyambakam wrote:
           | That's exactly what I thought as well, especially given it's
           | re French
        
           | youssefabdelm wrote:
           | I initially thought it meant $10k per massage
        
           | cushpush wrote:
           | this is a measurement of salary for olympic swimmers?
        
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