[HN Gopher] OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash
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OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash
Author : mfiguiere
Score : 25 points
Date : 2023-05-25 20:21 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| pkaye wrote:
| Does OpenAI have all the technology to implement the EU AI
| regulations?
| gumballindie wrote:
| One can only hope. What was he even doing talking to so many
| government leaders? Did he imagine they'd all fall for cheap fud
| and embrace copyright theft overnight?
| afpx wrote:
| Slow down progress for 5.8 billion people so that 400 million
| feel protected.
| lnxg33k1 wrote:
| It's people that goes bankrupt for some medical procedure, that
| makes their kids get shot at school for some freedom fetish,
| and with a insane wealth hunting culture, as a european I would
| hardly care about the needs of americans or the rest of child
| employing wastelands
| exeldapp wrote:
| Sounds like his talking backfired.
|
| "We need to regulate AI! No, not that much!"
|
| There's no way OpenAI will quit EU and leave it for competitors
| to take, easy bluff to call. The whole thing makes it seem like
| the desire for AI-related regulation isn't ethics motivated and
| is instead only trying to make it harder for competition to
| start.
| skybrian wrote:
| Bard isn't available in the EU or Canada, so there's one
| competitor they don't need to worry about. That doesn't seem to
| be a bluff?
|
| Perhaps people will learn to use VPN's like some US folks did
| for cryptocurrency exchanges? Or maybe it will be a boost for
| an open source project that gets a reputation for reliability.
| (Well, reliable for an AI chatbot, which is not very reliable
| by most standards.)
| rlayton2 wrote:
| For all of Microsoft's flaws, they typically _are_ good at
| working with regulators and ticking the boxes needed to get
| into a market like EU. It 's unsurprising that Bard isn't
| there yet, as the whole field has moved at "faster than large
| corp/government" speeds but I don't imagine MS will stay out
| of those markets for long.
| jacquesm wrote:
| Precisely, it's a very transparent attempt at regulatory
| capture. Utterly disgusting.
| usernew wrote:
| What exactly does "quit EU" mean. They make an app that
| connects over the internet. Anyone including businesses, are
| free to use their money how they see fit by paying for a
| service that runs in a another country.
|
| All the EU can do here is get rid of the business and
| infrastructure presence of this company in the EU. Getting rid
| of jobs and tax revenue. They can also do a China and prosecute
| their own citizens for trying to access things they want on the
| internet.
|
| There doesn't need to be Any "AI-related regulation." There's
| nothing specific or magical or new about "AI" that's not
| covered by current law. What it does look like to me, is the
| government couldn't press some authoritarian laws, so they
| slapped "AI" on it to mislead and misdirect their voters.
|
| Nothing backfired, it wasn't a shot or a bluff. It was a
| statement that if they pass draconian laws, their citizens will
| have to buy the product online with their visa card without
| paying VAT.
|
| Funnily enough, the EU guy who is leading this and doubling
| down, is Romanian. I've had some friends from that country and
| been there a few times. It's not a place I would think of when
| I think honest regulatory body, ethics, or bleeding edge
| technology. It definitely is a place I think of when I imagine
| a peacock puffing its feathers, a tiny monkey hitting it's
| chest, and a drunk idiot with low IQ doubling down till the
| grave.
| june_twenty wrote:
| Altman seems inexperienced for this type of role. I guess he
| didn't really expect OpenAI to be the leader of the AI race.
|
| Hopefully strong competition comes along soon.
| meghan_rain wrote:
| Regulatory capture
| pipes wrote:
| If the wheel was invented today we'd ban it before it put sedan
| chair workers at risk.
| jacquesm wrote:
| That bluff deserves to be called.
| umeshunni wrote:
| In both directions
| jacquesm wrote:
| I'm perfectly fine with that. It's not as if OpenAI is going
| to be the sole supplier even if they have a head start today.
| peyton wrote:
| These models are useful enough that people are fine
| accessing them through VPNs. It doesn't seem like a big
| deal to geoblock the EU.
| diebeforei485 wrote:
| EU regulations are basically a full employment program for VPN
| engineers.
| leobg wrote:
| I'm wondering if OpenAI will even be still relevant once this
| legislation is in place.
|
| I'm not convinced that they won't. But I think it's also not a
| certainty anymore, with all these amazing breakthroughs coming
| out every week or so.
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