[HN Gopher] Pilots abort landings at SFO after spotting plane in...
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       Pilots abort landings at SFO after spotting plane in their path
        
       Author : cbhl
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2023-05-25 20:09 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.sfchronicle.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.sfchronicle.com)
        
       | rohan_ wrote:
       | https://archive.is/hGnsY
        
       | diebeforei485 wrote:
       | ATC miscommunications seem to be happening a lot these days. I'm
       | looking forward to the VASAviation video about what happened
       | here. If it's really bad maybe blancolirio will chime in.
        
       | __loam wrote:
       | A similar incident happened at SFO a few years ago where an Air
       | Canada flight tried to land on a taxiway since the normal runway
       | was closed and unlit and the pilots missed the memo.
        
       | JimRoepcke wrote:
       | In 1994 i was on a flight from Edmonton to Vancouver, and in the
       | absolute final seconds of approach during landing it took off
       | again as straight up as I can imagine a passenger jet going.
       | 
       | After a while the pilot said they just missed a plane on the
       | runway that shouldn't have been there. He just had to take a
       | while to gather himself after the ordeal before talking to us.
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       | We circled for about 40 mins before landing again.
        
       | rlpb wrote:
       | In the rest of the world, ATC are not permitted to give a landing
       | clearance unless and until the runway is actually clear (hence
       | the term "clearance"). The US is unique in that it permits
       | "anticipated clearance" where the controller can assume the
       | runway will be clear by the time the aircraft arrives and that is
       | sufficient.
       | 
       | In this case "anticipated clearance" was not sufficient.
       | 
       | This is a uniquely US problem.
       | 
       | The last time this came up was 3 months ago:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34703626
        
       | eddof13 wrote:
       | I was on a plane during an aborted landing over the weekend, I
       | think the 2nd/3rd I've experienced. I always assume death will
       | occur shortly after but it hasn't yet.
        
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