[HN Gopher] Undercover audio of a Tyson employee reveals "freera...
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       Undercover audio of a Tyson employee reveals "freerange" chicken is
       meaningless
        
       Author : paulpauper
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2023-05-24 19:37 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | salad-tycoon wrote:
       | I've raised and "processed" [read slaughtered] my own a couple of
       | times. As far as I can tell, there really isn't anyway for a
       | chicken to have a "happy death". It's all pretty gruesome. Lots
       | of potential for blood splatter, I feel like a horror movie.
       | 
       | For vegans and animal rights people, not sure there can be any
       | compromise and their reporting is obviously going to be biased.
       | 
       | Also, practically no one free ranges their meat birds. It's
       | wasteful energy wise and you want tender meat.
       | 
       | I'm sure Mass factory meat sucks, which is partly why I raise my
       | own and looking into branching out but bugs in chicken food is
       | called... chicken food.
       | 
       | Speaking of which, I also raise mealworms. Their conditions are
       | pretty gruesome and then they either die or I feed them to giant
       | chickens.
       | 
       | Life is cruel but humans first. Factory farming sucks, needs to
       | change. Meat is good for your hormones, brain, bones, muscle,
       | immune system.
       | 
       | All these things I believe true all at once.
        
         | WastingMyTime89 wrote:
         | Most people I know who keep chicken do it for the eggs and free
         | range them because it makes for better eggs. The meat is also
         | definitely a lot more tasty than what you get with factory
         | farmed chicken once you do eat them.
         | 
         | Modern factory farming is absolutely awful. I'm still puzzled
         | by how it's even allowed.
         | 
         | Most poultry where I live is now killed using gas. That's not
         | very gruesome. It's still slaughtering however.
        
           | stringfood wrote:
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         | eps wrote:
         | When I was a kid I found a 50s book at my grandma's country
         | house that detailed pickling recipes, making preserves, smoking
         | fish and meats and all other things one might need to do at a
         | country house. One of those things was how to slaughter a
         | chicken and I still remember the illustration, hand drawn and
         | very detailed.
         | 
         | Apparently there is an organ at the back of chicken's throat
         | that is saturated with blood, so the technique was to prop the
         | beak open and pierce that "sack" with an awl. The description
         | then explained that this killed the bird instantly and helped
         | containing all the blood inside, keeping things neat and tidy.
         | A cherished childhood memory for me, but perhaps something
         | actionable for you, for the next time? :)
        
         | roflyear wrote:
         | I'm vegan and have no problem with you doing what you want.
         | Factory farming does suck. That's why I'm vegan.
        
         | 4ndrewl wrote:
         | "Also, practically no one free ranges their meat birds."
         | 
         | Is this a USA thing? I can go into any UK supermarket and buy a
         | free-range chicken to cook.
        
           | roflyear wrote:
           | The point is it isn't really free range
        
             | WastingMyTime89 wrote:
             | Free range doesn't mean the same thing in the USA and in
             | the EU. As always when it comes to food, EU regulations are
             | far more stringent and specify things like minimum time
             | outside, which type of vegetation should cover it and
             | what's the maximum density of poultry allowed. It's also
             | controlled quite seriously.
        
         | Bran_son wrote:
         | > As far as I can tell, there really isn't anyway for a chicken
         | to have a "happy death"
         | 
         | "Freerange" refers to how they lived, not died.
        
         | niemandhier wrote:
         | If you slaughter the chicken appropriately the animal is
         | stunned than killed, you still take a life but suffering is
         | limited.
        
           | postalrat wrote:
           | Does "stunned" mean immobilized or that the animal isn't
           | feeling fear and pain?
        
             | LilBytes wrote:
             | It means unconscious. For chickens that can be done as
             | easily as hanging the chicken between your legs by it's
             | feet and swinging it back and forth. Works with small
             | mammals like rabbits and guinea pigs too.
        
       | ThorsBane wrote:
       | Vertical farms and clean lab-grown proteins are the key!
       | 
       | Unfortunately, this key spells doom for the global chicken
       | population.
       | 
       | Ironically, the push to save the chickens will be what causes
       | their population to plummet towards extinction outside of zoos
       | and the odd house that retains some as pets.
        
       | gavaw wrote:
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       | Bran_son wrote:
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