[HN Gopher] Not Even a Recession: The Great German Gas Debate in...
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       Not Even a Recession: The Great German Gas Debate in Retrospect
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       Author : cribbles
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2023-05-23 20:58 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | H8crilA wrote:
       | The winter was exceptionally warm, and no one could really
       | predict that.
       | 
       | But putting that aside, this whole episode was making me uneasy.
       | To this day so many people in Europe cannot engage in strategic
       | thinking. I think they simply do not believe that bombs can ever
       | land on their own roofs. The understanding of foreign governments
       | and their real intentions is often at a comical level, even when
       | applied to actors that pretty much lay out their own plans in
       | public then execute on them, decade after decade.
       | 
       | Effective international policy requires tools, but before that it
       | requires an even basic understanding of the situation and
       | courage/resolve. That means sacrificing something small (like a
       | gas shortage) for something valuable (no major war in Europe).
        
         | mperham wrote:
         | From the article:                   Moreover, the country did
         | not simply get lucky with particularly mild winter
         | temperatures, as often alleged. The average winter temperature
         | in the 2022/23 winter of 2.9degC was actually slightly colder
         | than the average temperature over the four previous winters.
        
         | sho_hn wrote:
         | > To this day so many people in Europe cannot engage in
         | strategic thinking.
         | 
         | Much more troubling: Few people worldwide have the attention
         | span and stamina to read a text of the length off an academic
         | paper and engage its contents.
         | 
         | That this thread is for the moment mostly hurried comments
         | desperate to control the message shows as much. Andp it's
         | tightly related to inability to do strategic thinking.
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | Europe lucked out and bought a year of time to scale up more
         | energy supplies. Germany was foolish to think they could tame
         | Putin with a long term gas contract. You cannot logic with
         | people who aren't driven by logic.
        
       | cyberlurker wrote:
       | I have not read the entire article, but one factor that helped
       | was the moderate winter.
        
       | nhavlt wrote:
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       | nmklt wrote:
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       | propagandamach wrote:
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