[HN Gopher] An Example of a Sad Google Account Recovery Failure ...
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       An Example of a Sad Google Account Recovery Failure and Its Effects
        
       Author : PrimeMcFly
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2023-05-21 21:13 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | usernew wrote:
       | I've said it once, and I've said it again for well over a decade.
       | The only google account recovery is creating a new account in 5
       | minutes. If doing that does not restore the full extent of the
       | purpose for which you were using google's services, you're doing
       | it wrong.
       | 
       | Google accounts serve one purpose: if you are trying to use a
       | google resource that requires an account. Example: save some
       | marked places on google maps.
       | 
       | I can't think of other examples. As the article states, google's
       | explanation for their user-hostile policies, is that at their
       | scale, there is no other option. The other option is, provide
       | services at a scale you can support, and if going larger is not
       | affordable, then you are not able to go larger.
       | 
       | Imagine going into a store. You purchase a microwave. You get it
       | home, open the box, and in the box is a dead cat. You take it
       | back to the store, and there's no one to talk to and no customer
       | service desk. You walk back out of the store with your dead cat
       | in the box, and when you show the receipt to the guy in the
       | store, he accuses you of stealing a microwave because the receipt
       | is from yesterday. No, he won't look inside the box, there's
       | another customer walking out whose receipt he needs to check.
       | Then they ban you from all their stores for trying to steal a
       | microwave, because they have you on camera walking.
       | 
       | You write a letter to corporate, and they tell you that at their
       | scale, they cannot have a customer service desk, or hire another
       | receipt checker.
       | 
       | The thing is, there's actually no real reason to use google for
       | anything. You don't need to ban it from your life, you just don't
       | use it for anything that needs an account with data you need to
       | keep. I use google products for maps and to chromecast to my tv.
       | I use it for search. When I get a new machine or browser, that
       | account just gets recreated because I don't bother storing their
       | password or login name. Like for this site.
        
       | swang wrote:
       | I have a very old account that I still use for some email
       | forwards to my main account. Even though I can verify all the
       | other requirements, since I haven't logged into that account with
       | a machine it recognizes that I still have, apparently I will
       | never be able to log into the account. Literally nothing can be
       | done because google would rather take the easy way to handle
       | this.
        
         | chasingthewind wrote:
         | I have a similar story with a major ISP. I had their service 20
         | years ago but eventually switched to a different provider. They
         | let me keep my email address, however, and I set it to auto
         | forward to my new address. I have long since lost the ability
         | to log into that original account, but it is still happily
         | forwarding emails to this very day. They are always scams or
         | junk. :P
        
         | dannyphantom wrote:
         | I've (slowly) begun to make an archive of all my Google data so
         | it will be less-awful should something ever happen. Your story
         | scares the crap out of me because I (already) have an account
         | that I'll never be able to access again either - c'est la vie
         | but it still stinks to know that a large part of my life is
         | locked behind a metaphorical prison.
        
           | NoZebra120vClip wrote:
           | You know about Takeout, right?
        
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