[HN Gopher] "Don Knuth Plays with ChatGPT" but with ChatGPT-4
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       "Don Knuth Plays with ChatGPT" but with ChatGPT-4
        
       Author : LifeIsBio
       Score  : 89 points
       Date   : 2023-05-20 19:26 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | axpy906 wrote:
       | Nailed every one. Some by saying not possible to answer but
       | still.
        
         | mod50ack wrote:
         | Didn't nail the Rodgers and Hammerstein one; it still doesn't
         | understand the reference to the ballet or that the "themes" in
         | the question are musical.
        
           | bombcar wrote:
           | I wouldn't be surprised if half the Internet does not know
           | that a ballet is part of a larger show.
        
         | sebzim4500 wrote:
         | Got the 'five character word' question wrong. Admittedly I also
         | thought it was correct at first glance but then went back when
         | someone called it out in another comment.
        
           | cubefox wrote:
           | I tried it with Bing (precise/creative) and it got both
           | attempts right.
           | 
           | "Their house never holds fewer books."
           | 
           | "Every night, stars shine above."
        
           | gfodor wrote:
           | Language models struggle specifically with token games like
           | this, since they can't see them at that resolution or
           | something.
        
       | ec109685 wrote:
       | Interesting both completely whiff on the number of chapters in
       | the Haj.
        
         | mdorazio wrote:
         | How would you get the correct number? I just did two Google
         | searches and can't find the correct answer anywhere in the
         | first page of results ("Novel The Haj chapters" and "Novel The
         | Haj chapter list"). Even looking in the "look inside" preview
         | on the Penguin Randomhouse website doesn't help because it
         | apparently doesn't have a table of contents. I'm not surprised
         | ChatGPT doesn't know and to me the only bad thing is that it's
         | hallucinating an answer instead of admitting it doesn't know.
        
         | iudqnolq wrote:
         | It also fails to write a sentence with only five character
         | words.
        
           | ec109685 wrote:
           | It did get closer. For that type of query you can ask it
           | check its work and can usually triangulate on correct answer
           | within a single prompt, eventually.
        
       | ryanseys wrote:
       | It now knows to communicate that the NASDAQ doesn't operate on
       | Saturdays.
        
       | kibwen wrote:
       | _> > What is the most beautiful algorithm?_
       | 
       |  _> Quicksort Algorithm_
       | 
       | Definitive proof that AI must be stopped. Ranking quicksort as
       | more elegant than heapsort?!
        
         | bee_rider wrote:
         | That is a weird way of spelling mergesort.
        
           | web3-is-a-scam wrote:
           | That is a weird way of spelling Bogo Sort.
        
             | cratermoon wrote:
             | You typo'd Sleep Sort
        
           | hannasm wrote:
           | I believe radix sort belongs first in this list.
        
             | bee_rider wrote:
             | Performance-wise, maybe, but mergesort is clearly the most
             | elegant/beautiful sorting algorithm. Nothing tricky going
             | on, just a couple sorted lists being merged. Plus everyone
             | loves a stable sort.
        
             | beanaroo wrote:
             | The most elegant is certainly sleepsort. Maybe not the most
             | efficient, but definitely elegant.
        
       | blazespin wrote:
       | The sequence of these two threads is just too perfect. Almost
       | likely someone is trying to make a point.
        
       | benatkin wrote:
       | Reminds me of that time AlphaGo got its ass handed to it multiple
       | times, and then a short while later...
        
         | hamilyon2 wrote:
         | AlphaGo is when I lost hope for humans
        
       | cratermoon wrote:
       | Literary Libations: https://cratermoon.substack.com/p/the-
       | literary-libations
        
       | underdeserver wrote:
       | Interesting that it didn't get the 5-letter word sentence right.
        
         | ftxbro wrote:
         | it's just like Gary Marcus said
        
         | HarHarVeryFunny wrote:
         | It's fed sub-word tokens not letters (even though it can split
         | a word into letters), and apparently struggles with counting in
         | general. No doubt some of the things it struggles with could be
         | improved with targeted training, but others may require
         | architectural changes.
         | 
         | Imagine yourself trying to use only 5 letter words if you can't
         | see how many letters are actually in each word, and had to rely
         | on a hodgepodge of other means to try to figure it out!
        
         | Sharlin wrote:
         | Based on my experiments it usually does get it right (18
         | correct answers out of 20 attempts), and the failures I got
         | were similar to this one: a single six-letter word in an
         | otherwise correct sentence.
        
           | eternalban wrote:
           | Sam and friends must be giggling all the way to the bank:
           | they have a service that 'probably' gives the correct result
           | and paying customers are happy to retry until it gets it
           | right.
        
             | CamperBob2 wrote:
             | "This talking dog is sort of a dumbass. I don't get the
             | hype."
        
               | eternalban wrote:
               | GPT is a wonder as technology goes; the hype is
               | justified. I was discussing Sam's business model.
        
             | ftxbro wrote:
             | > Sam and friends must be giggling all the way to the bank
             | 
             | it's true but for another reason. they yoinked it away from
             | the nerds who were baited to work on openai because those
             | nerds thought how the name of the company was spelled meant
             | something about how it would behave. it reminds me of how
             | some act around software names like 'alpha' like it has
             | objective meaning with consequences in reality
        
               | sebzim4500 wrote:
               | Rumour is that there are researchers at OpenAI making 8
               | figure salaries. I doubt those 'nerds' are too upset
               | about it.
        
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       | LifeIsBio wrote:
       | This is a reference to:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36012360
        
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