[HN Gopher] The Two Cultures
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The Two Cultures
Author : raviksharma
Score : 40 points
Date : 2023-05-11 20:44 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| ugh7 wrote:
| [flagged]
| ZunarJ5 wrote:
| This is starting to trend in the opposite direction, however I
| find the problem is more along these lines:
| https://massivesci.com/articles/chaos-in-the-brickyard-comic...
| prottog wrote:
| Since the Industrial Revolution, scientific progress has far
| outstripped progress in the humanities. We've gotten very good at
| answering the how, but not the why (or why not).
| PeterWhittaker wrote:
| I guess that depends on your POV: I'm pretty much a
| reductionist, so I find the various hypotheses re where the
| universe and life come from to be quite compelling.
|
| There is no why, really.
|
| The more interesting question revolves around should, from an
| ethical/moral perspective. The analytic tradition so favoured
| in the UK since Hume has been shown to be cracked (read, e.g.,
| The Women Are Up To Something). Since WWII, progress has been
| made on that question, but Hume's acolytes still cling dearly
| to mind, perhaps because of that same reductionism.
| pessimizer wrote:
| The humanities were discarded for entertainment and marketing,
| and the criticism of entertainment and marketing, ultimately
| based on predicting/motivating sales and attempting to explain
| when those sales predictions turn out to be wrong.
| pitched wrote:
| > So the great edifice of modern physics goes up, and the
| majority of the cleverest people in the western world have about
| as much insight into it as their neolithic ancestors would have
| had.
|
| This is a very nice way to try and explain Dilbert-style Pointy
| Haired Bosses.
| hammyhavoc wrote:
| [flagged]
| karaterobot wrote:
| > Once or twice I have been provoked and have asked the company
| how many of them could describe the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
| The response was cold: it was also negative. Yet I was asking
| something which is the scientific equivalent of: Have you read a
| work of Shakespeare's?
|
| But that's not quite true, is it. In the one case, he's asking
| someone to _explain_ a very specific thing (one particular
| physical law), and in the other you 're asking if they have been
| _exposed_ to any example from a large set of things (any of
| Shakespeare 's plays). If he'd asked "how many of you have
| _heard_ of the Second Law of Thermodynamics ", or if he'd asked
| "how many of you can describe the plot of Coriolanus" the
| questions would be closer to equivalent.
|
| Nitpicky, but relevant in the sense that it's not a fair example
| as originally stated.
| M3L0NM4N wrote:
| I don't think that's nitpicky, I think that's a very clear
| flaw.
| jameshart wrote:
| I think Snow is assuming that given that audience (academics
| educated in the traditional humanities) that if someone affirms
| they have 'read' something they can be assumed to also know
| what that thing was about.
| [deleted]
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