[HN Gopher] Casio adds fitness features to original G-Shock digi...
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Casio adds fitness features to original G-Shock digital watch
Author : occamschainsaw
Score : 109 points
Date : 2023-05-07 15:52 UTC (1 days ago)
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| joecool1029 wrote:
| I bought an Amazfit Neo awhile back for a cheap heart monitor.
| This is a smartwatch clone of the gshock with a much better value
| ($30?) and battery life (a month).
|
| I then got the real G-Shock gm-5610u for a daily watch and love
| it. I think Casio does great with non-smartwatch but I don't know
| who the submission's watch is for other than a collector. It can
| run for a day and a half on a charge at that price point? Go buy
| a Garmin.
| karussell wrote:
| The Amazfit Neo serves well as a rough estimate for heart rate
| and give good value for just $30 (currently even just 10EUR it
| seems).
|
| But if you e.g. enable the detailed heart rate and sleep
| measurement the battery life is not more than a week and the
| quality of the measurement cannot be fully trusted & bigger
| latency (plus in the app the resolution of heart values is just
| one value per 5 minute). So it is not that good quality ...
| still worth the money.
| joecool1029 wrote:
| Maybe some variability with batteries, even with everything
| on I get around 3 weeks. Agree with the rest of what you said
| though, it's not a high-end device but I don't really have to
| care where I bring it for the price point. I think their Bip
| was a better rounded device but I like physical buttons like
| the Pebbles had.
|
| (Oh and without a phone the Neo's clock drifts multiple
| seconds per week, vs about a 2 second drift for my F-91W over
| the course of TWO YEARS.)
| samuell wrote:
| Tell me when they have GPS tracking and a traceback function, and
| I might consider switching from my Garmin Instinct.
| kubectl_h wrote:
| The Instinct is probably the most practical smartwatch on the
| market. They did a great job with it. I had the first
| generation for a year and a half before making the jump the
| Fenix. The full GPS came in handy a handful of times (paddling
| down a river) but it was nothing I couldn't have used my phone
| -- other than that I think I probably could have been just as
| well off sticking to the Instinct.
| Infernal wrote:
| I'm not a big G-Shock person but a quick google led me here
| [0]. Sounds like it does what you want?
|
| >GPS and a digital compass combine to guide you to your
| destinations, while the watch tracks your routes and stores
| waypoint information in memory, making this the perfect tool
| for survival activities.
|
| Curious if that does the trick. I've occasionally considered a
| g-shock watch here or there but I always get lost in the
| hundreds of possible configs, and can't quite figure out what
| the master list of options I can choose from is.
|
| [0] https://casiofanmag.com/g-shock/gpr-b1000/
| Someone1234 wrote:
| Be careful, the US can use this as a justification for you being
| an enemy combatant[0].
|
| [0] https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna11750939
| circularfoyers wrote:
| That's an article from 2006...
| sjilo wrote:
| That's not a G-Shock though.
| j7ake wrote:
| Still wearing my Casio vibration alarms. 10 year battery life
| can't be beat.
| Pfhortune wrote:
| Which model? I've got a couple of models with vibration
| (GBD-100/200), but they're pretty chunky and the vibration is a
| little weak for my tastes.
| glouwbug wrote:
| I'll always love my F91W for being able to tell me the time, date
| of the month, and day in wording, all on my wrist, for $14,00, at
| a 7 year battery life
| Zanovis wrote:
| F91w is the best value watch on the market.
| jansan wrote:
| Casio also has the best bang for the buck when it comes to
| classic dial watches. The LCW-M100TSE-1AER features a titanium
| wristband and casing, sapphire glass, tough solar and wave
| ceptor (and a shitty light). It costs about 250EUR and should
| do its job for a few decades.
|
| Unfortunately Casios comparable digital display watch, the
| MRG-B5000D-1DR, costs about ten times as much.
| quechimba wrote:
| They're great. I've had several. Doesn't hurt so much if I
| accidentally forget it somewhere :)
| ghaff wrote:
| I have an Apple Watch Ultra which is nice. (The added battery
| life vs. the standard model makes a big difference.) But it's
| mostly for hiking. Day-to-day I just wear my $30 Timex a lot of
| the time.
| xbar wrote:
| Which Timex?
| ghaff wrote:
| It's an Expedition. Which is dual-time zone which has been
| useful when I've traveled a lot. Not sure the exact model.
| fqyzj wrote:
| >I'll always love my F91W for being able to tell me the time
|
| But can it? I had one and it drifted like 20 seconds a month.
| lallysingh wrote:
| That's actually a normal amount for any watch. A well-
| maintained Rolex is +- 5 seconds a day. AFAIK, only the
| 'atomic' watches or ones sync'd against your cellphone do
| better.
|
| Also, 20 seconds means <2 min drift between the adjustments
| you make for daylight savings time.
| fqyzj wrote:
| A Rolex is a mechanical watch, which is an inferior
| technology.
|
| I expect better from a quartz watch.
| slicktux wrote:
| I had to stop wearing mine because what went from a making fun
| of my antiquated watch turned into I'm a terrorist...
|
| All because of this Wikipedia page:
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_F-91W Scroll down to
| usage
| orhmeh09 wrote:
| Who's telling you that? Although I know of this story, I've
| been wearing one all this time, save for a few years of folly
| with an Apple Watch 4. In fact, I just picked up a new one
| two days ago since I left my old one in another country. No
| police has ever given me trouble (e: am from Middle Eastern
| country and have had more LE interactions at the airport than
| most people)
|
| I love not having to charge it and not having to worry about
| bumping it into anything.
|
| (My new watch is a slightly updated model - W-217H-9AVCF,
| which is a little bigger and has a brighter, more even light
| in amber)
|
| PS: Nobody's going to think you're a terrorist if you drive a
| Toyota, either.
| slicktux wrote:
| It started out with "your watch is so old it probably had a
| Wikipedia page" and the person jokingly looked it up
| scrolled down and it was an "oh shit" reaction... I love
| the watch and I still have it..
| the_gipsy wrote:
| Did you stop using it because you read about that, or some
| actual incident?
| hewlett wrote:
| An Afgan electrical engineer was sent to Guantanamo Bay for
| wearing it as Al-Qaeda was known to use the F91W in IEDs
| porkbeer wrote:
| Im sure that was the only factor involved.
| filoleg wrote:
| Yeah, I am with you on this one.
|
| I even tried googling for it, but couldn't find any
| articles referencing both Guantanamo and casio watches,
| aside from the general ones talking about the whole
| phenomenon of Al-Quaeda preferring those watches or
| pieces talking about incidents where the watch was
| actually used as an IED component.
| hewlett wrote:
| https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2006/07/why-am-i-
| cuba/
|
| https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2011/apr/25
| /gu...
| slicktux wrote:
| I was being made fun of in a tongue in cheek way... If it
| does not apply I let it fly but it was just a little too
| much.
| MegaDeKay wrote:
| You should have told them you were planning to run for
| President of the United States. Barack Obama wore an F-91W in
| his youth.
|
| https://watchesyoucanafford.com/the-venerable-
| casio-f-91w-di...
|
| Or you were just a big fan of Napoleon Dynamite, who wore one
| as well.
| ghaff wrote:
| That seems to exist in a price and battery life no man's land
| between a true smartwatch and a basic $30 LCD watch that gets
| years of battery life. Both smartwatches and cheapo time pieces
| have their place. Not sure about this sort of in-between model.
| guidoism wrote:
| Joey Castillo's Sensor Watch project seems to be the only
| example in this no man's land. Over 365 days on a single coin
| cell battery so far.
|
| https://github.com/joeycastillo/Sensor-Watch
| curiousgal wrote:
| I have this and I love it!
| brvsft wrote:
| Personally, this watch seems pretty cool and right in the niche
| of what I would want in terms of 'dumbness' and also aesthetic,
| and the battery life does not sound intolerable to me.
|
| But $300 sure is a lot for it, although my impression has
| always been that "G-Shock" watches were inexplicably more
| expensive than they look, presumably as a branding thing. This
| is something I'd wait for to go on sale.
| octobus2021 wrote:
| The basic G-Shock (e.g 5600 model) will be around $50 which I
| think is a fair price given the ruggedness of the thing. More
| expensive models (like 5610) will be in $100 range since they
| have solar cells and self-adjust based on radio signals from
| atomic clocks. I think that's fair (I don't have one though,
| I'm cheap :) ).
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| Where the hell can you get the 5600 for 50 USD? In Europe
| it's more like starting from 80 Euros.
|
| I feel Casio is taking us to the cleaners here.
| octobus2021 wrote:
| DW5600E-1V is $49.98 on Amazon in the US right now, but
| it's listed as 33% off, and $74 on US Casio site. So we
| might be both right :)
| SamReidHughes wrote:
| It's been available at $40-$50 in practice for years and
| years.
| MegaDeKay wrote:
| I got the 5610BC so I'd get the combi-bracelet with clasp
| and it was well worth the extra money. It is very
| adjustable, durable, comfortable, and looks great.
| fer wrote:
| Same. Especially when sold at $300; for that price you have
| better options.
| throwaway049 wrote:
| I'm puzzled by the whole range. There are some that look just
| like a PS10 digital watch but sell for PS100. The difference
| seems to be the robustness but not that many jobs or hobbies
| put your watch in constant danger.
| EwanToo wrote:
| I have a Withings Scanwatch
|
| 30 day battery life, looks like a regular watch, but has health
| tracking built-in.
|
| https://www.withings.com/us/en/watches
| ghaff wrote:
| The main battery life killers seem to be the full-screen
| always-on display of many smartwatches and GPS. If you can
| dump those you can do a lot better it seems. Though in my
| case I have no interest in a fitness tracker without GPS.
| lmm wrote:
| I use a Mi Band which I wouldn't really recommend on the
| whole, but it gets great battery life and one reason might
| be that AIUI it piggybacks the phone's GPS rather than
| doing GPS tracking itself.
| orhmeh09 wrote:
| I used a Garmin vivofit 3 for about a year and a half without a
| battery change. I liked it and it felt a little bit like an
| F91W. I switched to an Apple Watch 4 for a while and I'm back
| on Casio for now but I might consider another vivofit if they
| keep making them.
|
| > Activity Tracker with Garmin Move IQ Automatic Activity
| Detection Features 1-year battery life Shows steps, calories,
| distance, intensity minutes and time of day on backlit display;
| monitors sleep Auto activity detection classifies activity type
| on Garmin Connect . . . it DOES NOT include a built-in wrist
| heart rate monitor.
| ghaff wrote:
| The step counters always seemed wildly inaccurate to me and
| they're pretty much useless for hiking. But I'm generally not
| really into the quantified health stuff.
| orhmeh09 wrote:
| Ah, I never really bothered to verify and instead used it
| to measure whether I walked as much as I did the previous
| day. I assume it does a bit better at this. Thanks for
| pointing that out.
| chrisfosterelli wrote:
| Yeah, I can't see why someone would choose this when you can
| get a Garmin forerunner 45 for $199 (or even cheaper as it's on
| sale right now) with better battery life and more features. The
| smartwatch market has categorically left casio behind and it'll
| be really hard to try to catch up now.
| ghaff wrote:
| Yeah, some of the Garmin models have a place if you're
| focused on getting a fitness/hiking/etc. watch and not really
| on a smartwatch as such--especially if you're not bought into
| the Apple ecosystem. You can get better battery life and
| maybe get a better price (though at the high end the Fenix is
| pretty pricey).
| InitialLastName wrote:
| I have a Garmin watch and am baffled when I hear people say
| they charge their Apple Watches every day. I had to add my
| watch charger cable to my vacation checklist because I
| often forget I need to charge it.
| ghaff wrote:
| The Ultra is a bit better but battery life is definitely
| a downside. However, as soon as you get below the better
| part of a week of battery life you pretty much need to
| remember to charge now and then. I'm not sure there's a
| big difference between charge every couple of days and
| charge once a week.
|
| On the other hand I never have to remember to charge my
| cheap Timex.
| salad-tycoon wrote:
| Having had both, I ditched the AW and now have fenix 6
| sapphire for less money (~$300 new) than used AW 8. The
| thing is indestructible (practically), battery lasts for
| weeks, and it has less smart features and more onboard
| "stuff", which I like.
|
| Instinct 2 is now $200 at Costco.
|
| I think the watch technology is pretty mature. I feel
| cutting edge with a 3 year old watch. Sensor maybe not as
| good as AW but for anything that really matter you would
| wear a chest strap hrm anyways.
| usrusr wrote:
| I'm not disagreeing, but the observation that Garmin is doing
| the Instinct series which is basically an elaborate G-shock
| counter suggests that Casio is onto something.
| criddell wrote:
| I think you underestimate the number of G-Shock collectors
| out there and how well loved the brand is. Casio has sold
| more than 100 million G-Shocks. Price and features matter for
| some, but not so much to watch collectors in general.
| chrisfosterelli wrote:
| For the smart watch market, it's entirely price and
| features that matter. It could be that there's enough
| g-shock fans to sustain a product here, but it's not going
| to grab any of the smart watch market.
|
| I say this as someone who loves their F91-W. It's a great
| watch and I like it. But I don't want to use it for the
| things I want to use a smartwatch for.
| MegaDeKay wrote:
| Indeed. When I was researching which G-Shock to buy, it was
| common to read about collectors buying the same watch in
| different colors.
| qbasic_forever wrote:
| I love my solar powered triple sensor g shock watch. I keep it in
| a window to get light every day when not wearing it and it's run
| fine for 10 years and counting. The lack of any smart features or
| wireless connectivity is a feature IMHO. It's got three main
| sensors (atmospheric pressure, magnetometer, temperature) and all
| the interface to access them on the device. It's perfect.
| [deleted]
| 10729287 wrote:
| The famous Rangeman GW9400. Probably the best bang for the
| bucks in the G-Shock lineup. I particularly love the
| Sunrise/sunset feature between winter and spring when I want to
| know where i'll be able to enjoy the sun as soon as I wake up
| or spend more time outside after work. I love G-shock. They're
| a little bit gimmicky but I absolutely enjoy their "low tech"
| awesomeness.
| hungryforcodes wrote:
| Yikes! $300. Okay...I guess I'll wait until Christmas.
| kotaKat wrote:
| I wish it could keep the fitness features but ditch the
| Bluetooth.
|
| I've got a friend that's been looking for a good fitness-tracking
| watch he can wear to work -- a government contractor that
| disallows use of personal wireless devices past the main
| entrance. No phones, smartwatches, nada.
| trts wrote:
| on previous bluetooth models I've had experience with, the
| feature is fairly easy to ignore completely. Probably not to
| the same degree with this version.
|
| The B5000 series has a press-and-hold to connect to bluetooth,
| otherwise pairing is not automatic. When it connects it will
| sync the clock to GMT (handy if multiband is not available) and
| also log your geolocation if you choose to configure that in
| the app.
| shipscode wrote:
| This is going to have a huge response with Casio connoisseurs.
| They took the original design and added heart rate tracking which
| is MVP what those people want from their watch. Great play.
| [deleted]
| neilv wrote:
| Which of these watches can be used with open source software on
| my desktop/phone for fitness tracking, and never try to phone
| home?
| vanous wrote:
| Check out Gadgetbridge: Gadgetbridge is an Android application
| which will allow you to use your Pebble, Mi Band, Amazfit Bip
| and HPlus device (and more) without the vendor's closed source
| application.
|
| http://gadgetbridge.org/
| nerdchum wrote:
| I wish there would be a health tracker without a display that I
| could wear in combination with my g-shock.
| iamatworknow wrote:
| I'll second this but add _without a subscription_. I like the
| idea of Oura or Whoop but I don't want want the monthly fee,
| and just want the minimal amount of data (acceleration, heart
| rate, maybe temperature), in something I can wear along side a
| legit mechanical watch.
| lipoid_ecole wrote:
| There is Whoop but the subscription adds up.
| coredog64 wrote:
| Amazon just discontinued that. Halo was a screen free tracker
| with decent battery life.
| salad-tycoon wrote:
| I had 2. They were borderline useless at health tracking. HR
| widely inaccurate. Good for telling you heart is probably
| still beating but otherwise worse than a just taking a
| guess/rated perception.
| themodelplumber wrote:
| Same. Or a tracker that clips onto any existing watch band. I
| collect and don't like having the same thing on my wrist all
| the time.
| cja wrote:
| Oura
| lostgame wrote:
| Interesting! My 'hubby' actually sold me her Apple Watch and I
| gave her a G-Shock in exchange as she felt the Apple Watch to be
| a little too much - but she actually recently (only yesterday)
| did the Toronto Marathon (so proud of her!) and I couldn't help
| but feel like she could've maybe used or kept some interesting
| data from her runs in general.
|
| I immediately sent her this and with her birthday coming up I'm
| thinking this could be a great gift. :)
| gsgshwyy677 wrote:
| 35 hour battery life? Compare this to Garmin's most modern watch
| (the Venu 2) with OLED screen and it's just not even worth
| considering. I get 6-8 days with mine, but I don't use GPS at
| all.
|
| This G-Shock only gives basic data too. I like the look of it,
| but $300 is just way too much. Part of the appeal of the G-Shock
| is 10 year battery, so you'd think they would go for something a
| little better.
| scrapcode wrote:
| I agree. They simply fail to identify their niche here, or at
| least miss the mark.
| lipoid_ecole wrote:
| I think their niche are existing G-Shock fans who want
| fitness tracking
| ragazzina wrote:
| >35 hour battery life? >I get 6-8 days with mine,
|
| "On a full charge, which takes around three hours, the watch
| will run for about a week when using the added fitness features
| for an hour a day. With them left on all the time, it will be
| dead in about 35 hours."
| saltcured wrote:
| I wonder if Casio's heart rate sensing is far more power hungry
| than Garmin's, or is it just that Casio undersized the battery
| because they could make a lower baseline power draw than Garmin
| manages. Garmins with MIP LCD screens are more comparable to
| the Casio line, and they have longer battery life than the OLED
| models.
|
| Many such Garmins can last for weeks with constant health
| tracking via wrist heart rate and accelerometer. It is mostly
| location tracking which increases discharge, e.g. ~5% per day
| health tracking and ~5% per hour GPS tracking. The heart rate
| sensor might just use ~1% per day for 24x7 usage.
| int_19h wrote:
| If this is like other high-end G-Shocks, you only get a hit to
| battery life if you actually use the smart features. E.g. GPS-
| enabled Rangeman runs fine off solar if GPS is only used
| sporadically.
| ragazzina wrote:
| I love everything about G-Shock watches and I really want one,
| but I just can't get over how small the time is compared to the
| whole area.
| partiallypro wrote:
| Has anyone noticed a recent "counterculture" movement against
| fitness trackers, at least for casual wear? Sure, people at the
| gym will wear them, but more and more I see people wearing normal
| (and more fashionable) watches for regular activities that aren't
| fitness related. If you have a nice outfit on, be it suit, dress,
| even just nicer casual wear...fitness trackers just look
| comically bad even with non-sports straps.
| porkbeer wrote:
| The people wearing them are still the oddities ime.
| jrmg wrote:
| The title says "Casio Adds Fitness Features to Original G-Shock
| Digital Watch".
|
| They haven't added features to the 'original' one at all. They're
| releasing two _new_ G-Shock watches with more features, including
| some fitness features.
| hammock wrote:
| Distinction without a difference. When Chevrolet added a
| convertible top to the original Corvette they didn't go in
| people's driveways and cut the roofs off
| mzs wrote:
| The first 'vettes were all soft tops.
| arrrg wrote:
| In my mind G-Shock is a brand of watch and there are many
| different ones.
|
| So the statement "Casio releases a G-Shock watch with fitness
| features" makes sense. "Casio adds fitness features to
| G-Shock digital watch" also makes sense. The "original" is a
| bit confusing to me. And judging by the comments here others,
| too.
|
| I get why it's in the headline. This fitness watch is sort of
| styled like the very first (= "original", though given the
| plethora of G-Shock watches and their enormous diversity that
| seems like a weird way of framing it) G-Shock watch from
| 1983.
|
| Maybe "Casio releases 40th anniversary G-Shock watch with
| fitness features".
| nluken wrote:
| No, but there's a difference between selling a convertible
| Corvette alongside the hardtop and discontinuing the hardtop
| to sell the convertible.
| InitialLastName wrote:
| The difference is between "Company releases new product in
| current line with X feature" and "Company releases software
| update that provides X feature to current products in the
| field". "Company updates product line with X feature" is
| ambiguous between the two.
| hammock wrote:
| Ok. I don't work in SaaS and I know something about Casio G
| shock watches, so I came from a different perspective.
| Thanks for adding that
| benatkin wrote:
| You were right. Especially the quip "distinction without
| a difference" was relevant here.
|
| With the context it is certainly not ambiguous.
| dumpHero2 wrote:
| Too many casio purists here. But I'm happy to see this. There are
| not a lot of design choices available in fitness trackers. Apple
| watch works only with iOS. Samsung watch is too round & cute to
| suit wrists of a grown man, the build quality of Fossil is
| questionable. Garmin is too expensive. I'll wait for some reviews
| and then consider buying this.
| octobus2021 wrote:
| I don't consider unlimited battery life (meaning battery will
| likely last longer than the watch itself), water resistance,
| and ruggedness to be part of "casio purism". I don't want to
| charge my watch daily or weekly, like I don't charge my clothes
| or shoes or umbrella.
| comprev wrote:
| Casio G-Shocks are the Nokia 3310 of the horology world.
|
| I love my G-Shock.
| MegaDeKay wrote:
| On top of the nasty hit to battery life requiring USB charge for
| advanced functions, this watch loses the 24h count-down timer and
| multi-band daily time sync from my beloved M5610BC (the latter is
| worked around with phone syncing but I don't generally carry a
| phone). The new pixelated display looks great though.
|
| I love the fact that my watch is this wonderful, self contained
| unit that I never have to bother with charging or setting. It is
| in fact my second one - my first one got run over by my tractor
| and then got a ride through the attached lawnmower. I only found
| it months later twenty feed away hidden in a patch of zucchini
| squash. The band was destroyed and the case was mangled, but the
| display still worked and the time was accurate to the second.
| Incredible. When Casio says these watches are tough, believe it.
| hiyer wrote:
| > On top of the nasty hit to battery life requiring USB charge
| for advanced functions
|
| There's a "Tough Solar" G-Shock [1] with fitness features that
| doesn't need manual charging.
|
| 1.
| https://www.casio.com/in/watches/gshock/product.GBD-H2000-1A...
| stavros wrote:
| Damn that's sexy. The bezel is a bit too thick for me,
| though.
| radicaldreamer wrote:
| It looks so incredibly extra
| [deleted]
| lmz wrote:
| I've got my doubts about that.
| https://www.g-central.com/specs/g-shock-gbd-h2000/ says
| "Requires wired charging for HR monitor, GPS, and heavy use"
| slim wrote:
| looks like it still needs it, there is a charging port.
| MegaDeKay wrote:
| Whoa. I'd never seen this one - it looks awesome. Only
| problem is I'd need a (much) bigger wrist to wear it.
| Pfhortune wrote:
| The GBD-200 is a little more manageable:
| https://www.casio.com/us/watches/gshock/product.GBD-200-1/
|
| It uses a standard coin cell, but, does not have a heart
| rate sensor.
| bilekas wrote:
| They're indestructible, I was diving on my first deep technical
| dive with a rebreather and was so preoccupied with my gear that
| I left one of these on with my dive watch, as I was descending
| I noticed but figured its gone and got on with my dive.
|
| We went just over 60m, when I finished up I saw the thing was
| still fine. After that, I believed their claims of bar pressure
| etc, when I see other watches that claim 50m etc, I wouldn't
| dare trust them to survive.
| nerdchum wrote:
| Bomb proof but also in the off chance they do get destroyed by
| some force of nature...they're only like 12 bucks to replace.
|
| I've gone through like 4 smart watches and any time I'm in a
| harsh environment always default back to the g-shock.
| kevin_thibedeau wrote:
| There's no way you're getting a real, new G-shock for $12.
| ChuckNorris89 wrote:
| He's probably thinking about the F-91W but even that is at
| least 20 Euros now.
| MegaDeKay wrote:
| I bought an F-91W after destroying my M5610BC for
| whenever I'm messing around in the yard. It's great! So
| cheap that I don't worry about getting dirt in it,
| scratching the bezel, or whatever. It keeps great time,
| is easy to read, and weighs nothing. What's not to like
| for that price???
| nerdchum wrote:
| You're right, I was accidentally exaggerating a little. I
| just checked my Amazon order history and mine was 40 bucks.
| still unbelievably cheap for a watch that is bomb proof.
| ordered mine in 2019. I think I've worn it 90% of the time
| since then. still going strong. It's beaten out fitbit's
| and Garmin instincts.
|
| I really wish they made a health tracker without a watch on
| it like the old original fitbit bracelets.
|
| I would just wear the G-Shock plus the health tracker
| bracelet be perfectly happy.
| stavros wrote:
| I got an Amazfit Neo for $30 or so, it's been amazing.
| Lasts for a month on a charge and has fitness bits.
| agumonkey wrote:
| I wonder if people who designed these kind of watches could
| assemble to do the same for other devices today.
| numpad0 wrote:
| Panasonic Toughbooks are nice additions to your reference
| collection, so long it won't sneak into your luggage.
| agumonkey wrote:
| I always wanted to buy one to see how they feel in person.
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