[HN Gopher] Five Books: The best books on everything
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       Five Books: The best books on everything
        
       Author : pps
       Score  : 82 points
       Date   : 2023-05-07 16:33 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | activitypea wrote:
       | I've been looking for something like this, hopefully other users
       | can weigh in if the curation is any good.
        
         | driscoll42 wrote:
         | Reviewing some of the books on computer science, there's an
         | English writing book recommended for "Computer Science for Data
         | Scientists", "Thinking Fast and Thinking Slow" for Artificial
         | Intelligence, for Naval History (20th Century) it's two WWI
         | books, one inter war period, one WWII and then one on the
         | British Submarines since then... not a good overall history,
         | and for Ancient Rome "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
         | which has important significance for understanding the
         | evolution of the study of Roman history, but is not a good
         | source anymore.
         | 
         | In short, this seems to be taking some famous books related to
         | a field without actually selection the five "best" ones.
        
         | anguswithgusto wrote:
         | I can only speak to my experience, but for non-fiction, I've
         | found the curation pretty great. For example, their Shakespeare
         | biography recommendations are themselves from a well-known
         | Shakespeare biographer [1], and the recommendations include a
         | rationale for why the book is worth reading. For me a
         | recommendation on Five Books is a strong positive signal when
         | trying to find the "best" introductory book to a given topic.
         | 
         | That's no surprise, as the site is designed as an SEO play for
         | searches on "best books on subject x". But the execution is
         | well done: the subject matter experts are tastefully chosen (in
         | my experience) and I find their recommendations more
         | trustworthy than those currently surfaced via Reddit, Google,
         | or Amazon. (I fully expect that some of their
         | experts/recommendations are wack.)
         | 
         | Example: search "wine book" on Amazon and it's all wine
         | textbooks and pretty-but-vapid coffee table books. Meanwhile,
         | Five Books will suggests the canonical wine cult classic memoir
         | by Kermit Lynch [2].
         | 
         | [1] https://fivebooks.com/best-books/shakespeare-biography-
         | james...
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         | [2] https://fivebooks.com/best-books/randall-grahm-wine/
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | Based on my limited perusal of areas I have some familiarity
         | with, I'd say they're pretty good.
         | 
         | Could I bicker? Yes. But it would be in "these aren't quite the
         | top five but they're in my top ten" type as opposed to "why are
         | you recommending Mein Kampf as a cookbook".
        
           | krick wrote:
           | Is recommending "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins as a
           | "best book on Quantum Theory" good enough for your taste?
           | 
           | Anyway, any list of "The best books on X, recommended by Some
           | Noname" almost by definition is not going to be very
           | reliable, so that's all I can say. Just another bullshit
           | website to earn commission via Amazon referral links by
           | recommending random bullshit to innocent victims. I recon it
           | might have been more useful if it was entirely generated by
           | ChatGPT.
        
         | is_true wrote:
         | I think that usually the best books about a topic are
         | textbooks, and by the look of it this site doesn't suggest many
        
           | lcuff wrote:
           | As a generalization I have to disagree, at least in America
           | for high-school subjects. I looked at both the math and
           | biology texts from recent years. The math texts were written
           | by people who didn't understand math, and the biology text
           | was so focussed on the No Child Left Behind Act requirements
           | that it was rubbish. (Also look for Richard Feynmann's
           | experience reviewing textbooks). Undoubtedly there are good
           | textbooks out there, but they are just as much in need of
           | review and recommendation as non-textbooks.
        
             | is_true wrote:
             | I'm from America but not from the US, so that probably
             | makes a big difference
        
         | autarch wrote:
         | I looked through the sci-fi and fantasy sections and there were
         | some odd choices. For example, Jeff Vandermeer's Annihilation
         | was recommended as a "climate change novel" book. It's hard for
         | me to see how this makes any sense.
         | 
         | Other weird suggestions:
         | 
         | * Ender's Game under Best Apocalyptic Fiction * Parable of the
         | Talents under Best Sci Fi Books on Space Settlement - this is
         | real stretch since the book takes place entirely on Earth,
         | though it does feature a religion that focuses on spreading
         | humanity to other planets.
        
         | my_city wrote:
         | [dead]
        
       | rcarr wrote:
       | The D&D reading lists look pretty good for fantasy:
       | 
       | https://www.dicegeeks.com/dnd-recommended-reading/
        
       | TedDoesntTalk wrote:
       | For sci-fi, they recommend the Arthur Clark award books. The
       | first 2022 title I clicked is summarized like this on Amazon:
       | 
       | "Part sci-fi, fantasy, and Afro-futurism but not squarely one or
       | the other, A River Called Time..."
       | 
       | What is "Afro-futurism"?
        
         | krapp wrote:
         | Afrofuturism is a cultural aesthetic, philosophy of science,
         | and history that explores the intersection of the African
         | diaspora culture with science and technology. It addresses
         | themes and concerns of the African diaspora through
         | technoculture and speculative fiction, encompassing a range of
         | media and artists with a shared interest in envisioning black
         | futures that stem from Afro-diasporic experiences. While
         | Afrofuturism is most commonly associated with science fiction,
         | it can also encompass other speculative genres such as fantasy,
         | alternate history, and magic realism. The term was coined by
         | Mark Dery, an American Cultural critic in 1993 and explored in
         | the late 1990s through conversations led by Alondra Nelson.
         | 
         | - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrofuturism
         | 
         | - https://www.essence.com/entertainment/a-beginners-guide-
         | afro...
         | 
         | - https://www.blerd.com/what-is-afrofuturism-why-is-it-
         | importa...
        
         | pavlov wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrofuturism
         | 
         | The 2018 Marvel movie "Black Panther" is probably the most
         | mainstream work under this umbrella.
        
       | ofalkaed wrote:
       | When ever I am getting into a new topic I try to start with OUP's
       | Very Short Introduction series [0]. They generally do not give
       | good understanding but they provide extensive bibliographies and
       | do provide the knowledge required to navigate that bibliography
       | and select the sources which will give you the information you
       | desire instead of what someone else thinks you want. Failing that
       | I just go down to the library and talk to the librarian.
       | 
       | 0: https://global.oup.com/academic/content/series/v/very-
       | short-...
        
       | WoodenChair wrote:
       | This is very similar to Shepherd: https://shepherd.com
        
       | UweSchmidt wrote:
       | I would love to see a small, maybe opinionated list of science
       | books, each, in one volume, giving a full overview of the field
       | in an approachable way, like:
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Life
       | 
       | but of course state-of-the-art.
       | 
       | It would be a nice collection and a chance to at least get a
       | general overview over all of science, and discover just how
       | patchy my knowledge really is :)
        
       | nindalf wrote:
       | The Economist does something similar with their Economist Reads
       | column. Their topics are more esoteric though. The best books to
       | understand
       | 
       | - The Scottish Independence Movement -
       | https://www.economist.com/the-economist-reads/2023/05/02/wha...
       | 
       | - Poker - https://www.economist.com/the-economist-
       | reads/2023/04/16/wha...
       | 
       | - Florida - https://www.economist.com/the-economist-
       | reads/2023/04/16/wha...
       | 
       | - Investing - https://www.economist.com/the-economist-
       | reads/2023/04/26/fiv...
       | 
       | - Books you're forbidden from reading -
       | https://www.economist.com/the-economist-reads/2023/02/24/sev...
        
         | engineer_22 wrote:
         | Forbidden books on Economist: https://archive.is/ntK0a
        
       | my_city wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | leto_ii wrote:
       | I find this to be simplistic pop intelectual nonsense. This is
       | not how to learn anything.
       | 
       | It's way more meaningful to understand and pursue your own actual
       | interests than to humble brag by ticking the "correct" readings.
       | 
       | Not to mention that talking about the best anything is basically
       | meaningless, except for very tightly constrained achievements
       | (e.g. we can talk about the best sprinter, but who's the best
       | philosopher? or the best mathematician?)
        
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         | latexr wrote:
         | I'm having a hard time parsing your complaint.
         | 
         | > This is not how to learn anything.
         | 
         | You don't learn anything by reading books? So if you have an
         | interest in astronomy you don't learn by reading books on
         | astronomy? How _do_ you learn, then? Must one go study to
         | become an astronomer as the first step? Won't you have to read
         | a book on it at some point?
         | 
         | > It's way more meaningful to understand and pursue your own
         | actual interests
         | 
         | What does this mean in practice, and how does it invalidate
         | reading? Can't you understand and pursue an interest in
         | philosophy by reading philosophy books?
         | 
         | > than to humble brag by ticking the "correct" readings.
         | 
         | Who's talking about humble bragging? Wether you brag or not
         | it's up to you, I don't see anything on the website encouraging
         | you to do so.
         | 
         | > Not to mention that talking about the best anything is
         | basically meaningless, except for very tightly constrained
         | achievements
         | 
         | The website is very upfront about how it works:
         | 
         | > We ask experts to recommend the five best books in their
         | subject and explain their selection in an interview.
         | 
         | Seems like a good way to begin exploring. If you're interested
         | in a subject the website points you to someone they consider to
         | be knowledgeable of the field, that person has recommendations
         | to get your started, and they explain why they picked each one.
         | 
         | Maybe I missed something about the reason you oppose the
         | website, but on the face of it I don't see what's so wrong as
         | to justify such vehement disapproval.
        
         | awesome_dude wrote:
         | I've always viewed these lists as a "starter pack for
         | beginners" - allowing people to dip their toes into fields that
         | they are curious about (or should be dagnabbit!) and giving
         | them an idea of how rich the field is, whilst they should also
         | be encouraging people to dig deeper if they have found
         | something that has really piqued their interests.
        
       | GalenErso wrote:
       | As a semi-professional amateur on war with a large personal
       | library on the subject (which I actually read), I find their
       | selection on the subject decent:
       | https://fivebooks.com/category/politics-and-society/war/
       | 
       | > The best books on War, recommended by Cecile Fabre
       | 
       | "War and Peace" by Tolstoy? It's a fictional work of literature.
       | Not the best starting place if you want to learn about war. It
       | would fit better in a list about Russian literature.
       | 
       | > The best books on US Foreign Policy, recommended by Gideon Rose
       | 
       | "History of the Peloponnesian War"? Yes, a good choice for
       | Western military history, but not a good choice for _US_ _foreign
       | policy_. This choice puzzles me. I would recommend Henry
       | Kissinger's "Diplomacy" and "On China", as well as "America in
       | the World: A History of U.S. Diplomacy and Foreign Policy" by
       | Robert Zoellick.
       | 
       | > The best books on Military Strategy, recommended by Antulio
       | Echevarria II
       | 
       | Probably the best list on the page. Sun Tzu and Clausewitz are
       | the gold standards. "Strategy: A History" by Lawrence Freedman,
       | "Modern Strategy" by Colin Gray, and "The Direction of War:
       | Contemporary Strategy in Historical Perspective" by Hew Strachan
       | are excellent selections. Freedman is Britain's de facto grand
       | strategist and official unofficial military historian, and the
       | two other titles explore more modern topics.
        
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