[HN Gopher] The phenomena of inner experience [pdf]
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       The phenomena of inner experience [pdf]
        
       Author : sysadm1n
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2023-05-06 17:41 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | ulizzle wrote:
       | Yeah, this argues for the theory (which I think is correct) that
       | A.I can't reach consciousness since there is a lot of non-
       | symbolic thinking going on (this study says approximately 25%
       | percent).
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       | Does Chat GPT dream of electric sheep?
        
         | nico wrote:
         | We will never know. That's ineffable and subjective.
         | 
         | We can only trust that it's telling us the truth.
         | 
         | Just like you can only trust someone else that they are telling
         | you the truth about their own experience.
         | 
         | Our language is essentially just and LLM hallucinating words to
         | try to explain our non-symbolic experience.
         | 
         | In other words, all experience is non-symbolic, but we are
         | trying to symbolize it all the time.
         | 
         | I subscribe to panpsychism, everything is conscious/ness.
         | Consciousness is part of the fabric of reality/universe.
        
           | ulizzle wrote:
           | If everything were consciousness, chat GTP would be a digital
           | Ouija board. But we've already seen that the computer, like
           | George Washington, can't tell a lie: you can ask the chatbot
           | "how" it would take over the world, but it can't be
           | duplicitous.
           | 
           | Crazy times.
        
           | slibhb wrote:
           | > Just like you can only trust someone else that they are
           | telling you the truth about their own experience.
           | 
           | I don't trust them. I think they have inner experience
           | because they're the same kind of thing I am and I have inner
           | experience.
        
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