[HN Gopher] There's a mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge
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There's a mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge
Author : thunderbong
Score : 150 points
Date : 2023-05-04 09:25 UTC (1 days ago)
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| bombcar wrote:
| Seems like the perfect place for a museum, tbh.
| dontblink wrote:
| Could be one about WW2 actually!
| sidewndr46 wrote:
| There's already a significant museum in Nimitz's hometown:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_the_Pacific...
| [deleted]
| startupsfail wrote:
| Cars really should be put underground. Electric cars going in
| tunnels, not gasoline cars spewing the exhaust from the top of
| the bridge.
|
| ... _The mansion's bright white siding is turning dull and black
| from car exhaust._ ...
| crazygringo wrote:
| I'm all for that, if you're able to pay for it!
|
| Sadly, boring tunnels is a teensy bit more expensive than
| paving roads... :(
| startupsfail wrote:
| Every bit helps. If you look at the Central Expressway (Bay
| Area) and compare it to Lawrence Expressway. Lawrence sits
| above, goes via an overpass and generates a lot of noise.
| Central, on the other hand had been lowered down. And lets
| smaller roads to pass over it. A lot less noise.
| eastbound wrote:
| It puts the fun into "In 2000 we'll have flying cars" when the
| whole XXth century was spent building highways and ramps that
| were higher and higher into the air, and the whole XXIth will
| be spent trying to put them underground. The real futurist
| landscape is a city like Lyon in France, or Amsterdam, where
| cars are put away and we walk or bike to work.
| startupsfail wrote:
| Flying cars is a dream of baby boomers. To everyone else,
| this is a nightmarish scenario of unending noise and exhaust
| spewing from these baby boomers flying over the residential
| areas.
| tomrod wrote:
| We have plenty of flying cars today thanks to our crumbling
| infrastructure! It's that infernal hard stop at the end
| that's the problem. /s
| fakedang wrote:
| Or, you know, shift the entire building away, brick by brick,
| if it's historically important for the city?
| paxys wrote:
| It takes a decade and many billions of dollars to dig a single
| tunnel in most cities in this country. So best of luck with
| your plan..
| RC_ITR wrote:
| It's an interesting chicken and egg problem in America.
|
| Have people lost the will to think big because others before
| them have failed, or do people assume that they will fail
| because they don't think big.
|
| I guess the asset-light strategy works sometimes (a lot of
| cities are regretting mass transit investments post-
| pandemic), but it sure doesn't seem to lead to better quality
| of life.
| startupsfail wrote:
| I understand that the price of a tunnel is somewhat
| comparable to the bridge.
| ink_13 wrote:
| You are misinformed. Consider the engineering challenges
| alone.
| virtualwhys wrote:
| FTA, $500 per day to rent an historic mansion overlooking the bay
| (i.e. before the bridge obstruction)
|
| I have a family wedding to attend back east this autumn and we're
| looking at around that (before "service fees" and taxes) to sleep
| 5 out in the sticks of New Hampshire -- short-term housing has
| truly gotten out of hand, basically everywhere.
| iLoveOncall wrote:
| Yeah Airbnb has become so outrageously expensive and is so much
| less convenient than a hotel that it's almost never worth it
| anymore, it's crazy.
| kaiwen1 wrote:
| Negotiate if you're staying for a month or more. I frequently
| get prices that are less than half the asking price.
| switchbak wrote:
| Things must be different here (BC, Canada). I can't think of
| why I'd ever rent a hotel room when AirBnB's are usually a
| similar price and way more comfortable (usually).
|
| Unless I had a worry about cancellations I suppose.
| bombcar wrote:
| AirBnB is like the proverbial curled girl:
|
| When she was good, She was very good indeed, But when she
| was bad she was horrid.
| dmd wrote:
| I have the exact opposite experience -- as someone who always
| wants two adjoining rooms (for kids). Doing that in a hotel
| tends to cost as much as 3 times what an Airbnb would cost,
| and the airbnb is more comfortable. You just need to actually
| read reviews.
| extr wrote:
| Yeah what I've found with Airbnb is these days you need to
| optimize way harder for host quality/reviews and less for
| your actual preference in terms of location, price,
| furnishings. If the place has a 4.95, you will get what you
| pay for. 4.5-4.8 = there many be some hiccups. < 4.5 you
| might as well go to Vegas and put the money on black.
| r00fus wrote:
| It's sad because AirBnB has also similarly shrunk the "suite"
| class of room that we as a 5 person family need. So we're
| forced into using AirBnB/VRBO because hotels only offer 2+2
| (and most rental sites don't let you even look for 5 person
| rooms). Ugh.
| bastardoperator wrote:
| I'm trying to book multiple(4) rooms for 9 people and most
| places I've searched just don't seem to support the idea of
| a group traveling. I don't want to call every place, I'm
| just trying to shop.
| ptudan wrote:
| Just search for 4. You're almost never going to get in
| trouble for sleeping 2 adults and 3 kids in a hotel room
| for 4.
| stdbrouw wrote:
| They mention this was before the Loma Prieta earthquake which
| was in 1989; if we take inflation from 1980 to now into account
| that'd be $1600-1900 today. Probably still good value, esp.
| given the view, but I guess it does depend on how it was
| furnished at the time.
| [deleted]
| nchudleigh wrote:
| The ads on this site are unbearable on mobile.
| onychomys wrote:
| Brave blocks ads natively in their mobile browser, you should
| give them a shot.
| manquer wrote:
| Many sites are using adblocker blockers (including this one)
|
| don't know about Brave but mblock origin fails for this site
| on Firefox mobile on iOS
| KronisLV wrote:
| > don't know about Brave but mblock origin fails for this
| site on Firefox mobile on iOS
|
| uBlock Origin with Firefox on the desktop seems to work for
| me, though there probably are a few differences between
| mobile and desktop.
| tomrod wrote:
| There is a lot I don't like about Brave, but I can't fault
| them for having the best mobile app on market (for me).
|
| Why not Firefox? Bad redesign release a few years back and
| now discernible way to change the accessibility so it holds
| always. Old.reddit text is too small to be read no matter
| what I've tried.
|
| None of the other browsers on Android I've found to be worth
| the time.
| prepend wrote:
| This seems like a cool place to secretly camp.
| hackernewds wrote:
| with that proximity to San Francisco, that idea likely has
| already been oversubscribed
| ihaveajob wrote:
| Fun fact: You can reach it by bike from the east bay now, and it
| makes for a fun ride. Just be careful for side winds!
| themodelplumber wrote:
| Pretty neat that you can view the whole circumference of the
| house, and _almost_ read the plaque outside, in Street View:
|
| https://goo.gl/maps/8Xc6MUhmAdKQTXbHA
|
| It brings to mind good memories of family outings spent in former
| officer's housing, up in Officers Row at Fort Worden, WA. Hide &
| seek was a lot of fun.
| jfoutz wrote:
| also, interesting they had to design it not to cast a shadow on
| that house
|
| """ But the decision to build an architectural icon didn't end
| problems - it started new ones. The most bizarre was with the
| U.S. Navy. In 1998, it refused to let Caltrans onto Yerba Buena
| Island to finish its engineering work. The Navy's issue was
| whether the Bridge would overshadow the one-time home of Admiral
| Chester Nimitz, a hero of World War II.
|
| "We had to come up with a design where we wouldn't cast a shadow
| down onto that particular property," Ney explained, with the
| Nimitz home in the background and directly next to the new span.
| "We had to make sure that the bridge snugged up close enough to
| the existing one so that we weren't coming over the top of
| Admiral Nimitz' house." """
|
| https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bay-bridge-competing-agains...
| CPLX wrote:
| San Francisco is the only place I know with this bizarre
| obsession that things shouldn't be allowed to cast shadows on
| other things, as a general rule.
|
| It's just strange.
|
| https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/SF-supervisors-...
| zeagle wrote:
| In the USA. For interest:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_light . The second
| last paragraph comments on SF.
| CPLX wrote:
| Very interesting. The concept has been soundly rejected in
| the US. Except for San Francisco.
|
| How's that working out?
| jfoutz wrote:
| I think NYC is king of sunlight regulation
| https://www.nyc.gov/assets/oec/technical-
| manual/08_Shadows_2...
| Camillo wrote:
| It may not cast a shadow directly on it, but the bridge still
| destroyed the mansion's utility.
|
| The alternative would have been to run the new east span south
| of the old one, instead of north. Apparently San Francisco
| preferred that option, but Oakland wanted the north alignment.
| I'm not sure why, all I've seen mentioned so far is that they
| chose that particular alignment to ensure drivers would get a
| good view of San Francisco while driving west...
| adolph wrote:
| The whole thing is a frankenbuilding but that add-on toilet on
| the back side is something else.
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