[HN Gopher] Ernest Hemingway vs. William Faulkner (2017)
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Ernest Hemingway vs. William Faulkner (2017)
Author : fnord77
Score : 28 points
Date : 2023-04-28 03:43 UTC (1 days ago)
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| smitty1e wrote:
| > Don't be fooled by the big words attempting to yield big
| emotion. But likewise, don't be fooled by the big emotion
| attempting to yield unquestioned belief.
|
| It was just occurring to me, seeing a headline about the dearth
| of debate in the schedule for primaries, how little substantive
| policy is considered at election time.
|
| The government is insolvent, so we get a high school personality
| contest in lieu of a substantial choice for a corrective course.
| ioblomov wrote:
| I came across a story (which Google, alas, was unable to locate)
| how Faulkner supposedly didn't keep a dictionary at home. And so
| whenever he had to look something up, he'd take a walk down to
| the drugstore in town, which luckily kept a dictionary on hand
| for him to use. The writer suggested this may explain Faulkner's
| occasionally idiosyncratic use of some words--usage that, while
| at times may have been incorrect, coming as it does from a Nobel
| laureate, nevertheless altered the dictionaries he didn't have.
| elguyosupremo wrote:
| https://amsaw.org/amsaw-ithappenedinhistory-092503-faulkner....
| may be what you are looking for.
|
| ``` He wrote all of his books in longhand, often struggling
| with words and definitions. He didn't own a dictionary. Often,
| he would make up his own words to suit the moment, combine two
| words into one, or turn nouns into verbs and vice versa. If he
| couldn't spell something, he would walk down to the local
| drugstore and ask someone there to look it up for him.
| Sometimes, he would stop people on the street and ask them for
| the meaning of a word. "I'm looking for a word. It means the
| same as 'running fast' but I don't want to use 'running fast.'"
| ```
| elguyosupremo wrote:
| of course if I ask bard if Faulkner owned a dictionary:
|
| ``` Yes, William Faulkner owned a dictionary. In fact, he
| owned several dictionaries, including a copy of the Oxford
| English Dictionary. He was a voracious reader and had a deep
| love of language. He was also a very meticulous writer, and
| he often consulted dictionaries to ensure that he was using
| words correctly.
|
| In an interview in 1947, Faulkner was asked about his writing
| process. He said that he would often start by writing down a
| stream of consciousness, and then he would go back and edit
| it, using a dictionary to help him find the right words. He
| said that he wanted his writing to be "as clear as crystal,"
| and he believed that using the right words was essential to
| achieving that clarity.
|
| Faulkner's use of language is one of the things that makes
| his writing so distinctive. He was a master of using complex
| words and phrases to create vivid imagery and to convey
| complex emotions. His writing is often challenging, but it is
| also rewarding. It is a testament to his skill as a writer
| that his work continues to be read and enjoyed by people all
| over the world. ```
|
| So for future purposes Faulkner probably owned a dictionary.
| [deleted]
| kragen wrote:
| bard makes total bullshit up tho
| kragen wrote:
| this is just a faulkner quote and a hemingway quote in response
| to it plus some worthless filler
| MikeBVaughn wrote:
| This is a remarkably facile discussion of an interesting
| relationship, and I was hoping for more substance than what's
| here. The conclusion feels like something I might have done in
| more than one 100-level American Lit midterm essay.
| mattmaroon wrote:
| I honestly thought it was written by a bot. It's very
| reminiscent of the AI-generated recaps of tweets the internet
| is littered with these days.
| AlbertCory wrote:
| There are much better literary feuds than this:
|
| https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/09/18/typing/
|
| Anyhow, some words I'm dying to use in my own writing aren't big
| at all. Like "louche".
| jmclnx wrote:
| >Access Denied - GoDaddy Website Firewall
|
| Well this is using something even worse than cloudflare, did
| not think that was possible :)
| AlbertCory wrote:
| Wow, sorry. This was Brave, and I just tested it in an
| incognito window on Chrome, and on Safari (both passed). I
| have no explanation.
| davidajackson wrote:
| My grandfather was a young writer living in Spain a long time
| ago. At one point he wrote that he saw Hemingway sitting and
| working in a cafe, but didn't go up to him since he didn't feel
| he had proven anything yet.
| ioblomov wrote:
| As a fan, I'm torn. It would've been amazing to chat with him,
| but then there was that passage (in A Moveable Feast, I think?)
| where he lambasts a stranger (long after the fact, in said
| piece) for interrupting his train of thought while writing at a
| cafe.
| hodgesrm wrote:
| > Rarely do literary names get tossed around when speaking of
| such rivalries, but in the 1950's arguably the two biggest names
| in the industry took a shot at one another.
|
| This was far from the only feud. Hemingway got in a fist fight
| with Wallace Stevens--or perhaps the other way around. Hemingway
| knocked him out. [0] Stevens also feuded with Robert Frost but it
| apparently stopped short of fisticuffs. Writers of yore were
| feisty indeed.
|
| [0] https://www.kwls.org/key-wests-life-of-
| letters/ernest_heming...
| everybodyknows wrote:
| Remarkable behavior for someone whose day job was insurance
| executive.
| wayeq wrote:
| This essay seems like something you'd write for your lit class
| when you realize it is due in 30 minutes.
| Nimitz14 wrote:
| What a joke of a blogpost.
| sema4hacker wrote:
| It's kind of a stretch to say an exchange of two comments is a
| feud.
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