[HN Gopher] Even Sega knows it'd only win the console war in a d...
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Even Sega knows it'd only win the console war in a dystopia
Author : cglong
Score : 39 points
Date : 2023-04-28 03:12 UTC (1 days ago)
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| BirAdam wrote:
| You know, the thing with SEGA (only imho as I do not actually
| follow the industry too closely) was burning both retailers and
| developers with SEGA CD/32X and Saturn. Effectively, the CD and
| 32X launched and had some initial success (not overwhelming or
| anything, but not complete failures for add-ons), and then the
| Saturn was released. The Saturn was also difficult to develop
| for, was expensive, had zero backwards compatibility, and had
| volume delivery issues. All of this meant that when the DC (best
| console ever made) launched neither developers nor retailers
| really had any trust or loyalty in SEGA.
|
| It's sad. I was always a bit of a SEGA fan, and with SEGA's
| demise I haven't considered consoles as devices for myself...
| until the SteamDeck.
| pipes wrote:
| Dreamcast is probably my most played console, it is between
| that and the n64. After that games just went downhill. I don't
| know what's wrong with me but the industry just seems to have
| lost its magic. Maybe it's the media I see it through: twitter
| etc. Or maybe because it's mainstream now, it used to be a bit
| underground. Or maybe games just don't seem to have any
| personality anymore. Or maybe I'm just old and my soul no
| longer burns.
| cglong wrote:
| YouTube has introduced me to a lot more indie titles which
| has reinvigorated my excitement for the medium. Games like
| Celeste, Undertale, and the Ori series are all excellent and
| clearly made out of a love for gaming.
|
| I've actually started seeing people refer to Sega as an indie
| publisher. IMO they've straddled this line well, with recent
| titles like Sonic Mania, the Yakuza series, and even their
| free April Fool's "prank" game (The Murder of Sonic the
| Hedgehog) getting universal praise.
| kingkongjaffa wrote:
| There have been many very good games made since N64 to be
| fair.
|
| Command and Conquer series, Civilization series, Halo series,
| Zelda games, Pokemon games, Gran Turismo series, Metal gear
| solid series.
|
| A huge number of creative game mechanics, graphical
| improvements, and deep rich lore and worlds to explore have
| been created in games. Some fantastic story driven games have
| been compared in artistic merit to Films and TV, and we're
| now seeing that acceptance with things like "The Last of Us"
| being turned into a hit show that was even almost scene-for-
| scene in the first episode.
|
| Sure there a microtransactions and junk food style games for
| the lowest common denominator as cash grabs, but there are
| also deep, rich games made with love still.
| silisili wrote:
| DC was certainly the best of its era, but certainly not the
| best console ever made by any metric I could think of.
| mingus88 wrote:
| Most "best (or worst) ever" lists are heavily biased by
| recency and personal experience. There are rarely objective
| metrics for this kind of thing
|
| To wit, my list of best consoles are all of that era when you
| could have 4 controllers plugged in and spend all night long
| partying with your friends. Now that I'm an old, I won't play
| online matches, and I don't have all night parties so every
| system sucks now.
| toast0 wrote:
| > Effectively, the CD and 32X launched and had some initial
| success (not overwhelming or anything, but not complete
| failures for add-ons), and then the Saturn was released.
|
| The Sega CD was out for quite a while before the 32x and Saturn
| came out. I don't think it was that much of the problem for
| relations with stores.
|
| The 32x _was_ a mess; it released in the US one day before the
| Saturn release in Japan and offered a complex landscape that
| wasn 't really justified.
| throwawaaarrgh wrote:
| that website's ads feel like a dystopia
| danbolt wrote:
| Reminds me a bit of _Segagaga_ [1], a Dreamcast RPG where you try
| to reverse Sega's fortunes in a futuristic environment.
|
| [1] https://sega.fandom.com/wiki/Segagaga
| debugnik wrote:
| > In the year 2025, Sega is in crisis, with only a 3% share of
| the market
|
| I guess that sounded pessimistic back then.
| thriftwy wrote:
| As a decades long player of Civ, Master of Magic, HoMM 3 and SMAC
| I can't begin to understand what's the fuzz about consoles
| anyway.
|
| Throw in Starcraft, Majesty and occassional Might and Magic
| series.
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