[HN Gopher] Netflix to invest $2.5B in South Korea to make TV sh...
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Netflix to invest $2.5B in South Korea to make TV shows, movies
Author : tim_sw
Score : 121 points
Date : 2023-04-26 13:26 UTC (9 hours ago)
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| Ataraxy wrote:
| There's some really great story telling found in some K and C
| dramas that you just don't find in western media.
|
| Interesting and varied modern story telling in KDramas and
| fantastic historical story telling in CDramas.
|
| There's also quite a bit of it to consume from over the years on
| alternative platforms like Viki.
|
| Sadly most of the "best" can't be found on Netflix so most people
| just don't have any idea about it.
| lofaszvanitt wrote:
| Poor SK...
| dandellion wrote:
| Well, it was good while it lasted.
| WrtCdEvrydy wrote:
| Someone found a case of "Squid Game"...
| slillibri wrote:
| There are a lot more and better Korean shows on Netflix than
| Squid Game. Extraordinary Attorney Woo, Inspector Koo, We Are
| All Dead, My Name (I really loved My Name), The Kingdom...
| BeetleB wrote:
| Stranger (first season only). Everyone I know who watched it
| - including die hard Korean drama fans - loved it.
|
| Agree that overall, Squid Game was an "average good" Korean
| show.
| ValentineC wrote:
| Also, Hospital Playlist.
| imbnwa wrote:
| It's been interesting to watch Korea's breakout in film and
| television since the 00s. My first steps into it then were
| Oldboy, Oasis, and Mother, all very rich films, and all very
| distinct from what Hollywood was occupied with, which for
| whatever reason I'd found unengaging.
| davidkuennen wrote:
| Not surprising.
|
| I'm from Germany and all my mother watches these days are Korean
| dramas on Netflix.
|
| She tells me that, in contrast to Western productions, they show
| more feelings and are less "cold" when interacting with each
| other.
| rayiner wrote:
| I love watching Korean and Scandinavian stuff on Netflix.
| American stuff moves way too fast for me in terms of pacing.
| epolanski wrote:
| > they show more feelings and are less "cold" when interacting
| with each other
|
| May I speculate that asian cultures are simply more prone to
| that due to their languages and possibly culture?
|
| Anime content may look stereotyped in some sense, but I've
| interacted with enough Japanese citizens to know that they
| emphasize a lot the emotional aspect in their verbal (through
| tones) and non-verbal communication.
| second_brekkie wrote:
| Ahah I'm British and it's all my mum watches too.
|
| Shes a gentle soul and there are some very genteel K-Drama that
| don't include sex, violence, rude jokes or dark themes. Which
| is quite hard to find in UK and American programmes these days.
| davidkuennen wrote:
| Yes, that's it.
|
| They just want some feel-good stuff to watch and I fully
| support that. :-)
| yamtaddle wrote:
| My wife watches these, especially the historical dramas (which
| are often some variety of portal fantasy).
|
| > She tells me that, in contrast to Western productions, they
| show more feelings and are less "cold" when interacting with
| each other.
|
| This reads as pretty extreme over-acting, to me. Think, the
| very _most_ over-the-top acting from '40s and '50s US film
| musicals. But, how much your actors should be acting and how
| much they should be ACTING! is a matter of taste, I suppose.
| stevenwoo wrote:
| My small sampling of Kdramas informs my opinion that most
| directors instruct villains to overact, with the worst
| offenders being Japanese favorable characters in historical
| periods of Japanese occupation of Korean peninsula ala Mr.
| Sunshine, Bridal Mask where when a character has a heel turn
| or heel-hero turn and changes acting style immediately.
| tooltalk wrote:
| sampling bias.
| npsomaratna wrote:
| THERE CAN NEVER BE ENOUGH BRIAN BLESSED!
| davidkuennen wrote:
| It certainly is a matter of taste and I agree on the over-
| acting part.
| bhupy wrote:
| Additionally, I've found that they're a bit less risque than
| Western productions and that creates broad appeal.
|
| Crash Landing on You was a heartwarming (and cheesy) story told
| in a very "PG" way. It not only appealed to me, my wife, and
| our friends, it appealed to my modest Indian in-laws.
| tpm wrote:
| same for Hometown Cha-Cha-Cha or Our Blues
| wgerard wrote:
| Hah, that's funny because the German netflix series are some of
| my favorites!
|
| Dark, Babylon, How to sell drugs online, and 1899 (RIP) are all
| fantastic series.
| sho_hn wrote:
| What shows like _Dark_ and a good Korean drama have in common
| is that unlike many Western shows, they don 't run past their
| prime and outstay their welcome.
|
| Korean dramas by default are 16-20 eps and end there, and if
| they're done well, stick the landing and provide a satisfying
| ending to a complete, pre-planned narrative arc, which _Dark_
| also managed to pull off.
|
| No _Lost_ syndrome there.
| FalconSensei wrote:
| > a good Korean drama have in common [...] they don't run
| past their prime and outstay their welcome
|
| For me, it doesn't feel like it though. I got tired of
| k-dramas (and I usually watch the 16 episode ones, instead
| of 20), because it feels that around the 12~13 episode mark
| they throw in an unnecessary twist or something, just to
| get to the 16 episode mark. I do feel like they would be
| miles better if they usually aimed for 12~14
| epolanski wrote:
| Give a shot to Deutschland 1983, still one of my favorite
| shows.
|
| https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4445154/
| asciimov wrote:
| My partner will be pleased, as she loves her K-Dramas. But I hope
| this isn't just repackaged shows from other platforms that we
| already pay for.
|
| I think American producers could learn something from the shows
| that come out of Asia. My partner really loves the
| lightheartedness of the shows. That they aren't overtly using sex
| and violence to sell their product, their stories are less
| sentimental and samey as what Hallmark makes. The few that I've
| watched are quite good, I enjoy that they aren't all following a
| strict formula, aren't trying to be a franchise and the shows
| don't run on forever.
| unpopularopp wrote:
| [flagged]
| [deleted]
| HDThoreaun wrote:
| Netflix loves to pound out utterly formulaic series. They've
| mainstream documentaries by producing docudramas and convincing
| everyone they're real stories and their dramas always seem to
| have the worst actors.
| vnchr wrote:
| [flagged]
| kelthuzad wrote:
| The moment I read the first sentence I immediately knew it
| was produced by ChatGPT.
| circuit10 wrote:
| Things ChatGPT likes to say:
|
| "I'm sorry, but as an AI language model created by
| OpenAI"...
|
| "I apologise for the previous confusion."
|
| "While it's important to X, it's also important to Y" (in
| this one)
|
| "You are correct. I made an error in my previous response."
|
| "Is there anything else I can assist you with?"
|
| Those are some I can think of from memory
| mupuff1234 wrote:
| Netflix is mostly trash in general, American or not.
| bobobob420 wrote:
| ???? Ive never heard anyone say that. American culture is the
| goat because its the melting pot of all cultures.
| Lolaccount wrote:
| Oh no ... does mean we're going to get loads more substandard
| Korean content when the content output was just fine?
|
| Man, the $ never sleeps ... just let the quality out instead of
| throwing a tonne of cash at it.
| pessimizer wrote:
| Vaguely related: Disney+ seems to have also gone in on SK reality
| with shows like "The Zone" and "Pink Lie," etc. I think it's
| tough to make it work outside of Korea because Westerners aren't
| used to the style where they're constantly writing commentary on
| the screen and playing sound effects (afaik originated from
| Japanese reality but copied by other cultures with block
| writing.) Most of the Westerners who can stand that sort of thing
| are already watching it.
|
| The Disney+ shows iirc minimize screen writing and sound effects
| or don't use them at all.
| sho_hn wrote:
| > Most of the Westerners who can stand that sort of thing are
| already watching it.
|
| This is a matter of exposure and habituation.
|
| I remember 6-7 years ago when I used sticker packs in KakaoTalk
| and Line, Western friends were baffled by all the silliness.
| Now they're all the rage on Telegram & co.
|
| I remember when Western friends rejected Korean pop music as
| too artificial and commercial vs. the "more authentic" Western
| pop. Now Kpop concerts fill stadiums here.
|
| I remember when friends rejected "Asian movies" as "bizarre and
| unrelatable". Now they win Academy Awards.
|
| All those forms of entertainment proved a lot more portable
| than anticipated, over time. That said, sadly the golden era of
| entertaining Korean reality/variety shows (Running Man et all)
| is kind of over already, it died with the peak of broadcast TV.
| The Netflix crop of shows is already far more Westernized and
| MTV-style. There may not be much worth exporting there.
| pessimizer wrote:
| I generally agree with your premises other than Asian movies
| (especially Japanese) have always been considered amazing and
| were a major part of supporting arthouse cinema from the 60s
| on, it's _Korean_ movies that have caught on. _Kung Fu
| Hustle_ was literally the highest grossing foreign film in
| the US in 2005. Korean movies caught on not because of some
| change in Western aesthetics, but because _they got better_ ;
| Park Chan-Wook led the way.
|
| I deeply disagree with your conclusion, however. Westerners
| have had plenty of opportunities to like (e.g.) Running Man
| since K-Dramas became popular. Plenty do. It's not a new
| exposure to something different. Any show with subtitles
| operates at a disadvantage; shows that have constant titles
| appearing and disappearing on the screen _and also_ have
| subtitled speech are an extremely tough sell, especially
| since (e.g.) Running Man is dumb and it 's target audience is
| going to be people looking for a laugh.
|
| edit: you could get people used to the stupid noises and
| canned laughter, but all that stuff is usually used to
| punctuate the appearance and disappearance of on-screen
| titles.
| sho_hn wrote:
| It was specifically Park Chan-wook and Kim Ki-duk that my
| friends outside the arthose/festival circuit rejected at
| the time, though, for example _Seom_ or even _Old-boy_ , as
| "too foreign".
|
| I think the internet- and streaming-driven globalization of
| media & subsequent exposure have definitely reduced the
| sort of knee-jerk inhibitions against watching something
| where the entire cast of characters is non-Western, or
| something subtitled. Content outside the Western bubble has
| increasingly lost the "this is a little strange and
| foreign" patina for average people in the millenials and
| younger gen.
|
| If you're below 25, and your fav sports team is perhaps an
| e-sports team from Korea rather than your local football
| club, you may not even realize people really, broadly used
| to think like that.
|
| When I was young, it was nearly impossible to watch a non-
| dubbed movie in theaters in Germany unless you lived in a
| major city, and even then it would be a special screening
| stuffed into an 11pm slot for the nerds. Which meant that
| content that didn't get dubbed would never be seen, and
| hardly anything not from Hollywood or major European
| countries would get dubbed. Now a big chunk of the
| programming in any theater is "original audio" screenings
| and it's no longer something that strikes people as odd to
| attend at all. Many countries' cinemas now get to contend
| in the market.
| selimthegrim wrote:
| Line has always been my favorite messaging app but I could
| never get any of my other friends in the US to use it
| password54321 wrote:
| The elephant in the room here is the obsession western TV now has
| with being woke. It has become quite difficult to not have trendy
| political points shoved down your throat.
| alienthrowaway wrote:
| > The elephant in the room here is the obsession western TV now
| has with being woke.
|
| The biggest Korean series on Netflix is absurdly _" woke"_: I
| don't know how one could watch Squid Game and miss how critical
| it is of capitalism. I also find most movies by Bong Joon-ho to
| be similarly "woke" - not at the periphery, but as a central
| theme of the work - for instance Snowpiercer, Parasite and
| Okja, and they are hits in Korea and abroad.
|
| Meta commentary: your appreciation for diverse types of movies
| (and not just the same-old bland Hollywood ones) is pretty
| _woke_ too!
| koromak wrote:
| Having a liberal-leaning thesis isn't "woke", thats a
| complete misunderstanding of what the word means in this
| context.
|
| Wokeness is a recent aesthetic trend, liberal politics is
| ancient.
| alienthrowaway wrote:
| > Having a liberal-leaning thesis isn't "woke"
|
| "Woke" has become a fuzzy culture-war term with no clear
| meaning when used perjoratively. Racial diversity? "Woke".
| Non-heteronormative relationships? Also "woke". A sci-fi
| movie about blue native cat-people fighting imperialism is
| apparently also woke[1].
|
| A conservative strategist boasted that they successfully
| co-opted the term to be malleable enough to fit any topic
| that the conservative voters may dislike. So my definition
| of woke is accurate by their standard; where are you basing
| your definition?
|
| 1. I'm taking Ben Shapiro's word for it.
| PurpleRamen wrote:
| Woke is not new, it's around for 40, 50 years? But the way
| liberals are using it is different from how right-wings are
| using it today. For them, it's now a plain insult for
| anything not on their side. And this meaning has spreading
| like cancer in recent years.
| password54321 wrote:
| Yes you will find politics in everything if you look close
| enough, but not everything is trying to program you on what
| is and isn't acceptable to think. Even with Squid Game, one
| can enjoy it without ever thinking about capitalism. In fact
| some fans have even debated that it is actually criticism of
| communism which one can get away with because the viewer is
| given the room to think for themselves.
| Lolaccount wrote:
| I'd suggest that's the elephant in your room ...
|
| Hope you have a good poop-scooper.
| [deleted]
| epolanski wrote:
| +1, it's unbearable, especially on Disney/Netflix content.
|
| But what do you expect? They are editing books from 100 years
| ago to "bend with the times". Books! As if having an
| informative introduction or contextualization to the book but
| leaving it alone would be a worse option.
| teachrdan wrote:
| I'm confused. Is Netflix editing books from 100 years ago? Is
| Disney? It seems like you're conflating two completely
| unrelated phenomena:
|
| 1. Publishers getting tons of free publicity by announcing
| cosmetic changes to old books, and
|
| 2. Netflix investing $2.5 billion in South Korean
| programming.
|
| As for 1 above, the publisher of Roald Dahl's books have
| released the original AND edited versions of his books, thus
| creating new content for people to purchase and demand for
| consumers to rage-buy the old version.
|
| https://variety.com/2023/film/news/matilda-roald-dahl-
| rewrit...
| epolanski wrote:
| I'm not conflating different phenomena I'm talking about
| sensitivity readers and the recent wave of editing all
| books to be more pc.
| azmarks wrote:
| woke? You mean treating all types of people with respect?
| stronglikedan wrote:
| They've already produced a lot of high quality content for
| Netflix, IMHO, so they deserve it. That and German content make
| up the large majority of the foreign content that I actually look
| forward to. Good stuff.
| hardwaregeek wrote:
| One thing I've noticed about my watching habits is that I won't
| put on a super intense, prestige TV show after work usually
| (maybe if it's Barry, damn, Barry is so good). Instead I'll watch
| something lighter or more repetitive like House MD or Schitt's
| Creek. Now k-dramas are not quite old school network television,
| but they're certainly more of a palatable affair than your
| average Showtime or HBO show. I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix
| realized that for every marquee top tier Emmy winning show,
| there's hundreds of people just turning on something to watch in
| the background that is familiar but slightly different.
|
| Really, this isn't a new discovery. Soaps have existed since
| before television. But it is interesting how instead of one long-
| lived show, it's now a multitude of similar but different shows.
| diziet wrote:
| I most recently watched Extraordinary Attorney Woo and
| recommended it to many friends. The show was whole hearted and
| felt like a breath of fresh air. It evolved characters in a
| positive way and overall was positive and made me smile after
| most episodes.
|
| My girlfriend watches a few shows too, including Single's
| Inferno. Dating shows aren't my typical genre, but in the few
| episodes I saw the interactions were modeled to be overall more
| respectful and positive compared with the US produced shows.
|
| A few other folks commented on similar trends. Fictional works
| don't need to represent every negative aspect of the real world,
| they are fiction after all.
| kylehotchkiss wrote:
| I hope they spend some on decent English dubbing. They've had
| some interesting shows but captions aren't great for background
| watching and the current dubbing is like 16 year old reading
| their English essay in front of class
| Teslazar wrote:
| For anyone wondering what this South Korean TV show thing is all
| about and want to check it out I suggest starting with Alchemy of
| Souls (8.8/10 on IMDB).
| abtinf wrote:
| Highly recommend Mr. Sunshine on Netflix. IMHO, the best TV show
| I've ever seen.
|
| Full of characters pursuing romantic values ("romantic" here
| meaning values that earnest individuals _should_ pursue) and
| understandable conflicts.
|
| And unbelievably beautiful to look at too.
| WildGreenLeave wrote:
| Currently watching it and I 100% agree!
|
| I also love The Glory, Little Woman, Vincenzo and Itaewon class
| too.
| carabiner wrote:
| I like the detailed food scenes. In Crash Landing, they show the
| character making pour over coffee and noodles from scratch.
| jimmyjazz14 wrote:
| I feel like there is a certain level of cynicism and/or irony in
| much of western media that is not as present in Asian shows (I
| think this is a big part of anime's popularity). Strangely while
| over acting and over dramatization is a mainstay of SK and
| Japanese shows they somehow they feel more authentic, I think
| that is because the writers voice feels less edited in many ways.
| Anyway I hope the growing popularity of foreign shows leads to
| western media taking time to reassess what people are looking for
| in shows.
| PurpleRamen wrote:
| Asian shows have a similar level of cynicism and/or irony as
| western shows, but western viewers often don't understand them
| because they are simply lacking the cultural background, or
| it's just lost in translation. So they are not aware of the
| subtle parts which they understand in western shows.
| throwaway6734 wrote:
| Agree. My wife LOVES netflix's Korean rom-com shoes because of
| how straightforwardly cute they are.
|
| >Anyway I hope the growing popularity of foreign shows leads to
| western media taking time to reassess what people are looking
| for in shows.
|
| Agree. The age of everything being ironic, sassy, and whiny
| needs to end.
| golergka wrote:
| Post-post and meta-meta concepts were really cool and
| interesting when they first popped up in indie circles back
| in the 90s, and even when they hit the mainstream in the late
| 00s. But now it feels like we've seen all these jokes, fourth
| wall breaks, and gritty, realistic remakes of everything.
| Instead of seeming like a writer's original ideas inspired by
| the real world, it just looks like they're copying from other
| shows and movies for no better reason than "everybody is
| doing it."
|
| Honestly, it's time to move on and find some other way to
| tell stories.
| ekabod wrote:
| >Honestly, it's time to move on and find some other way to
| tell stories.
|
| I hope not, I want more 'Barry' or 'Succession' or 'Better
| Call Saul' even if they share some already seen templates.
| sho_hn wrote:
| > The age of everything being ironic, sassy, and whiny needs
| to end.
|
| Looking at you, modern _Star Trek_ - a prime example of
| ironic, sassy and whiny not necessarily being any smarter.
| imbnwa wrote:
| Eh, _Star Trek: Strange New Worlds_ captured the blend of
| levity and somber urgency that populated the seasons of
| original _Star Trek_ and _Star Trek: The Next Generation_
| reaperducer wrote:
| And not every science fiction show has to be a sermon on
| later-day ethics and values in every single episode.
|
| Looking at you, _The Orville._
|
| And not every science fiction show has to evolve into a
| horror/zombie series.
|
| Looking at you, _Firefly._
| lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote:
| > horror/zombie series
|
| I have never heard this said about Firefly. I consider
| the show to be more about human experimenting and
| creating super soldiers (River Tam) and that it just got
| cancelled before they could really get into it. I guess
| Serenity was more about conflicts with Reavers but I
| wouldn't exactly pin the Horror/Zombie label on the
| series because of that.
| Fauntleroy wrote:
| They certainly have that in spades. Unfortunately they also
| seem to be "stuck" in the old fashioned 60-90 minute per
| episode korean time slot, which isn't super great for western
| audiences (I can only take so many 3-minute long slapstick
| filler interludes in a single episode). Hopefully this
| investment includes some encouragement to make more streamlined
| shows.
| carabiner wrote:
| In the korean reality show Physical 100 they make a point of
| _not_ showing sob stories for contestants. In US reality shows,
| the sob story is always something stupid like they got a bad
| haircut or shameless trauma dumping that I somehow doubt will
| be remedied by some literal hoops to jump through or the prize
| money.
| throwaway1777 wrote:
| Ironically there's probably more authenticity and realism in
| the western shows than the fantasy worlds of most kdramas and
| animes.
| jimmyjazz14 wrote:
| When you were a kid and coming up with fun creative stories
| or just playing creatively did you inject a level of
| authenticity and realism to that play? Probably not because
| you were just being your authentic self, unedited and
| unspoiled, having fun. I think this is a little bit of the
| feel I get from a lot of korean/japanese media.
| sho_hn wrote:
| I think what OP means to some extent is that the Korean
| media, while often showing "fantasy worlds", also rarely
| injects this with a pretense of authenticity as Western media
| nearly constantly does.
|
| It's easier to articulate in pop music, where a large chunk
| of popular pop songs is written, composed and demo-
| tape'd/vocal-guide'd by the same dozen or so of Scandinavan
| service companies, for both Western and Korean pop artists
| equally. But while the Western pop stars may act as if
| they're the auteurs of "their music" rather than being
| entertainers who were given a piece of music to sing as part
| of a carefully crafted product vision, in Korea, this is
| relatively above-board and neither talent nor consumers
| pretend otherwise.
|
| Don't get me wrong, the Korean pop music industry is terrible
| in many other ways (as is the pop industry in general), but
| there's something to be said for content not trying to fool
| you about what it is.
| prottog wrote:
| > also rarely injects this with a pretense of authenticity
| as Western media nearly constantly does
|
| In other words, a show is just a show, instead of the way
| it is in modern Western media, which is being an instrument
| of social change first and only incidentally a show. The
| latter is exhausting.
| AYBABTME wrote:
| Korean shows are definitely also an instrument for
| change. K-culture is a deliberate strategy from the SK
| government to increase its soft power. SK is resource
| poor, brain rich, and caught in between bigger players.
| It needs all the good will it can foster. In addition,
| the themes explored by K-dramas are often also meant to
| shape the narrative in Korea, or give visibility to
| problems. It's not uncommon for a social problem to be
| highlighted by a drama, and then for public outcry to
| cause the government to change laws or policies in
| response. But because SK society is quite conservative
| and patriarchal, it might not seem to you like social
| change or controversial.
| mixmastamyk wrote:
| I'd agree, however it feels less preachy for whatever
| reason, which helps the "medicine" go down.
|
| Often I point to "Brokeback Mountain" as an example of
| progressive Western media made by grownups.
| hourago wrote:
| > instead of the way it is in modern Western media, which
| is being an instrument of social change first
|
| All art is a form of personal expression and it is full
| of new views and political change. I think that the
| difference is that in the West reactionary criticism
| permeates all social media.
|
| If a Japanese show tells the story of a set of characters
| fighting the global goverment injustices its viewers
| enjoy the show. If an American show tries to do the same
| a very small part of the population but very noisy will
| criticize it as "communist" and "politicized" instead of
| enjoying the real feelings of love and justice that
| humans enjoy in their stories.
| jimmyjazz14 wrote:
| yeah I think there is absolutely a way to do a good show
| and have a social/political message and it usually comes
| down to tone and respecting the audience. Studio Ghibli
| is known for there positive and even relaxing tone but
| underneath the story is often a social/political message.
| That message is often subtle and weaved into the fibers
| of the story, its a message you feel not hear, if that
| makes sense. I think they achieve this because they
| respect their audience enough to give them something they
| will enjoy and to be smart enough to pick up on the
| subtle message in the content.
| imbnwa wrote:
| Like how _Vinland Saga_ is literally a critique of
| "might makes right" patriarchal culture and its
| viscissitudes.
| bossyTeacher wrote:
| > in pop music, where a large chunk of popular pop songs is
| written, composed and demo-tape'd/vocal-guide'd by the same
| dozen or so of Scandinavan service companies,
|
| any links to back this up?
| sho_hn wrote:
| Look up e.g. Karl Martin Sandberg, Shellback, Cheiron
| Studios, Dsign Music, The Kennel, EKKO, Cosmos, Merlin,
| ... the composers themselves are often contractors
| working with many of these, and in turn it gets sold to
| big labels often via e.g. Warner or Universal. Sweden,
| Norway and Denmark are the pop songwriting hotbed, and
| pop music is a very systemized industry.
|
| It also happens every year that the same pop song is
| licensed multiple times into different markets where it's
| given localized lyrics and sung by locally popular pop
| artists. I'm too scatter-brained to immediately think of
| a recent example, but check out e.g. "Hot Summer"
| existing in German and Korean girl band versions.
| mixmastamyk wrote:
| DDG is your friend. Also look up 90s R&B producers
| lending expertise when they take that angle.
| abtinf wrote:
| Why is it desirable for art to have "authenticity and
| realism"? Nowadays, those terms are just code for the
| malevolent and disturbed world view of some creators.
|
| I prefer art that depicts life as it could _and ought_ to be.
| aaron695 wrote:
| [dead]
| asadm wrote:
| I have watched a few recently and me and my partner love them.
| Not only are the shows modest but are light to watch. Compared to
| US shows, which are loud, over, dramatic, headache-inducing.
| conradfr wrote:
| A bit like the difference between the UK and US versions of
| Kitchen Nightmares.
| ookblah wrote:
| I really wish they would invest more into the subtitles. Korean
| has a myriad of ways to convey something, each with a distinct
| meaning and often times the translation is just super lazy.
| guardiangod wrote:
| I have been watching trailers of new (seasons) of TV shows these
| past few days. Am I mad for thinking the acting for TV actors are
| uniformly very bad, even compare to 10 years ago? Or is it that
| the trailers only show exaggerated scenes?
| edgyquant wrote:
| Depends on the show. These Korean shows I definitely agree,
| they over act and it makes it hard for me to watch them.
| sho_hn wrote:
| There are some Korean shows that don't do that and have more
| realistic/older characters, e.g. "My Mister" and "Liberation
| Notes". It's a bit of a niche but there's good work in that
| area too.
|
| Since virtually all Korean dramas are in mini-series format,
| the right way to do it is to basically wait until the year's
| awards season, see which dramas of the 200+ the industry
| produces annually made the cut, then pick the 2-3 you find
| interesting and watch those.
| imbnwa wrote:
| Mr Brain on AppleTV+
| criddell wrote:
| I've been thinking the exact opposite. I recently finished Last
| of Us and Perry Mason (season 2) and am now in the middle of
| Beef and I think all three are great.
| HDThoreaun wrote:
| You watching succession? HBO consistently has great acting.
| htag wrote:
| I think ~10 years ago was a local maximum of American TV
| quality, and we've been going downhill into a land of lots of
| shovelware.
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