[HN Gopher] Disney is shrinking FiveThirtyEight and Nate Silver ...
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       Disney is shrinking FiveThirtyEight and Nate Silver (and his
       models) are leaving
        
       Author : Amorymeltzer
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2023-04-25 22:07 UTC (53 minutes ago)
        
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       | greesil wrote:
       | Well there goes any somewhat reliable election forecasting for
       | the US
        
         | justinsaccount wrote:
         | The very idea of election forecasting is harmful to democracy
         | and should be shunned wherever it appears.
        
           | t-writescode wrote:
           | If it's not being done in public, it's absolutely being done
           | in private. Do you believe democratizing that data is a bad
           | thing?
        
           | dalyons wrote:
           | this is an interesting take. why do you say that?
        
             | orev wrote:
             | It's pretty easy: if someone is projected to win, voters
             | who were planning to vote for that person might stay home
             | to avoid "eating their time" since they're going to win
             | anyway. Then that person doesn't win because the voters
             | didn't show up.
        
           | Multicomp wrote:
           | While I readily admit to feeling like my comment could be
           | seen as sealioning, but could you post some links and/or
           | search terms I could use to try to research why one might
           | hold an opinion like this?
           | 
           | I don't know whether to agree or disagree with this; I'm new
           | enough to not have come across this particular opinion before
           | (that I've noticed).
        
       | joshl32532 wrote:
       | Might as well divest FiveThirtyEight or shut it down if Nate
       | Silver is leaving.
       | 
       | Nate Silver is 538.
        
       | renewiltord wrote:
       | This is horrible. Now how will I delude myself with forecasts
       | about the Premier League? I'm going to need to wait for him to
       | get a substack.
        
       | henriquez wrote:
       | I'm surprised to learn that Disney owned FiveThirtyEight and also
       | that they kept Nate Silver afloat for that long. Dude's
       | credibility was shattered after 2016 - a master of proving that
       | getting high on your own fumes makes you high.
        
         | schnable wrote:
         | Seriously? What did he get wrong in 2016? Trump squeaked it
         | out. 528 provides probabilities, and he expressed a very strong
         | possibility of Trump winning with a 28% chance--much higher
         | than almost everyone else including the Clinton campaign.
        
       | Scubabear68 wrote:
       | Incredibly smart of him to hold the rights to his models
       | personally, and only license them to 538 (and hence ABC/Disney).
        
         | eshack94 wrote:
         | Absolutely. Good planning and foresight on his part to enable
         | him to retain ownership of his hard work.
        
       | shusaku wrote:
       | I wonder if TheRinger can afford him. My impression is that sites
       | like 538, Grantland, Andscape, etc don't make any money for
       | Disney, so this isn't too surprising.
        
       | aardvarkr wrote:
       | Huh, I had no idea Nate Silver got his start on daily kos.
        
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