[HN Gopher] Derek Parfit: The Perfectionist at All Souls
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       Derek Parfit: The Perfectionist at All Souls
        
       Author : miobrien
       Score  : 12 points
       Date   : 2023-04-24 14:46 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | greenie_beans wrote:
       | trying to remember the fiction book where derek parfit was
       | mentioned. was it a michael bible book? blake butler?
        
       | 2b3a51 wrote:
       | _" Few works of philosophy have the urgency of Reasons and
       | Persons, which was written with extraordinary speed, driving its
       | author to the brink of collapse and its publisher to despair."_
       | 
       | Makes me feel slightly less bad about abandoning my first attempt
       | at reading this very dense book. I was trying to read it in short
       | bits (the book is split into quite short sections but with a big
       | apparatus of parts, chapters, sections and so on with implied
       | cross referencing) during a busy time.
       | 
       | I'll try again over the summer in a more concentrated way.
       | 
       | No recourse to spirits or pills though...
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Related:
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       |  _How to Be Good: The Philosopher Derek Parfit (2011)_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22037240 - Jan 2020 (6
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Why anything? Why this? (1998)_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13315746 - Jan 2017 (77
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Derek Parfit has died_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13304873 - Jan 2017 (38
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _How to Be Good: Derek Parfit 's Moral Philosophy_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11273495 - March 2016 (16
       | comments)
        
       | rektide wrote:
       | The moral obligation to future people is a strong current that
       | runs through Kim Stanley Robinson's _Ministry for the Future,_ a
       | recent semi hope-punk book of his.
       | 
       | Fun to run across an earlier line of inquiry here, in Parfit.
       | 
       | And a code I strongly believe in. Orienting yourself to best help
       | the future, perhaps even futures beyond your time. As the Greek
       | proverb goes:
       | 
       | > _A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade
       | they shall never sit._
        
         | tuatoru wrote:
         | I've never understood the reasoning, except maybe as nerd-
         | sniping.
         | 
         | If there is any technological progress, then future people
         | collectively will be much richer than us, and so they will be
         | able to solve their problems much more easily than we can. Even
         | problems they inherited from us - those should be trivially
         | cheap for them to solve in a few hundred years.
         | 
         | I see it as "they owe us" (for enabling their existence at all)
         | rather than "we owe them".
         | 
         | And if there isn't any more technological progress, then there
         | won't be many future people.
         | 
         | Our obligations to present people, to enable them to have their
         | own self-determined futures, seem far more important to me.
        
       | zvmaz wrote:
       | I don't know a lot about Derek Parfit, but one interesting
       | philosopher who claims to have solved Parfits' problems about
       | population and moral theory is David Benatar [1]. His solution is
       | anti-natalism, which he defends extensively in his book Better
       | Never to Have Been, The Harm of Coming into Existence.
       | 
       | [1] https://academic.oup.com/book/32901/chapter-
       | abstract/2766430...
        
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