[HN Gopher] Navigating the world when your senses conjure up phe...
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Navigating the world when your senses conjure up phenomena others
can't perceive
Author : Caiero
Score : 67 points
Date : 2023-04-22 05:38 UTC (17 hours ago)
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| TheAceOfHearts wrote:
| If you get really good at meditating you can temporarily cancel
| out tinnitus. Well, the input still appears to be there, but you
| can shift it outside of your awareness. Have you ever tried using
| tinnitus as a meditative anchor?
| tyingq wrote:
| The _" senses conjure up phenomena that others can't perceive"_
| reminded me of stories I've seen of compass implants that give
| you some innate ability to know which way is north.
|
| I'm skeptical about the actual devices that are available now,
| since they seem to come from a very fringe subculture. But, the
| general idea is pretty interesting. Whether that's a compass, or
| IR sensing, sounds out of normal human hearing range, or
| something else. Any sort of of additional sense you don't have
| already.
|
| I'm curious about how well a device like that over time might get
| sort of "wired" in a way that it works on a subconscious level.
| That it would add a new signal that your brain would incorporate
| without you having to mentally consider it.
| everyone wrote:
| HN Are any forms of tinnitus treatable?
|
| I have pretty bad tinnitus, a very high pitched ringing seemingly
| coming from one ear. It seems to have gradually gotten worse and
| worse over the past few years.
|
| It's kind of driving me crazy. I am normally the kind of person
| who likes to sit quietly thinking and listening to the wind.
|
| I've been really busy with work, but one thing that's been
| keeping me going is a plan to go see some specialists about this
| when I have time. If there is a way to cure it I would give up
| everything I own, all my money to do so. Even if I had to go deaf
| in one ear or something.
| bruce343434 wrote:
| I find momentary relief by opening audacity, generating a sine
| tone that is roughly the same frequency. Wear headphones and
| set the volume to sort of loud, play for roughly 5 seconds.
| This relieves my symptoms for a few seconds, after which they
| come back again (but weaker, and not as intrusive as before).
| anon84873628 wrote:
| Your last paragraph doesn't compute for me, friend. This issue
| is so bad that you would give up everything to cure it, but you
| haven't seen someone yet because you're busy with work? What's
| the real priority then? Don't let healthcare be some sort of
| reward -- are you working to live or living to work.
| everyone wrote:
| Yeah I agree, but I know how to work and have been doing it
| every day for most of my life. I dunno how healthcare works
| and how to even begin this tinnitus investigation process.
| It's a domain knowledge thing, Its very easy to just keep
| doing what your doing no matter how much it sucks.
|
| Also one thing I have picked up is that healthcare is
| extremely expensive. I said I'd give up all my possessions
| for a cure, but lets say there is a cure, I realistically may
| not have enough wealth to afford it. And food and shelter is
| actually a higher priority than the tinnitus.
| klyrs wrote:
| Stress can cause or aggravate tinnitus. If you feel like
| you can't step away from work long enough to see a doctor,
| that might be the problem.
| meneseteung wrote:
| I also have bad tinnitus in one ear, as well as hearing loss
| and occasional balance issues (Meniere's disease).
|
| In my case, managing my blood sugar levels has probably been
| the most helpful thing. Specifically, I've started using sugar
| substitutes that don't spike my blood sugar, such as stevia,
| xylitol, and allulose, whenever feasible. I've also found that
| keeping a regular meal schedule (i.e. limiting snacks) and not
| overeating does a lot to keep my tinnitus in check.
|
| Reducing your alcohol usage could help as well, as alcohol is
| known to be ototoxic. For me, red wine is probably the worst,
| as it dependably exacerbates my tinnitus.
|
| If you're experiencing hearing loss as well, you might also
| consider reducing your sodium intake if it's above the
| suggested daily limit.
|
| None of these solutions completely get rid of my tinnitus, but
| they do help keep it to manageable levels.
| zarzavat wrote:
| It often gets better with time. You don't notice your clothes
| on your skin right? Even though objectively you know that the
| clothes are touching your skin, your mind learns to tune that
| out. The best thing you can do is to preoccupy yourself with
| something else and let your mind do the work of learning to
| ignore it.
|
| If you keep focusing on it then you are reinforcing the
| stimulus which makes it worse. And you get into a vicious
| cycle.
|
| Perhaps unhelpful advice to follow but the best thing that
| helped me was getting a crazy girlfriend, my mind was so
| preoccupied with other things that I just forgot about the
| tinnitus.
| codethief wrote:
| > Are any forms of tinnitus treatable?
|
| Yes, at least some are. From personal experience I know that
| stiffness of the neck & back and, e.g., trigger points[0] can
| cause tinnitus, too. Fixing those has cured me of tinnitus
| various times. Though I should add that that neck issues and
| those trigger points will have a habit of coming back if you
| don't also fix your overall posture and balance spending hours
| in front of a screen with plenty of (back & neck) exercise.
|
| [0]: https://www.painscience.com/tutorials/trigger-points.php
| mhandley wrote:
| I've had hearing loss and really loud tinnitus in one ear for
| more than 40 years, after getting mumps as a teenager. But if
| I'm not thinking about my tinnitus, I simply don't notice it.
| As soon as I think about it, it's there, really loud, like
| high-pitch radio static on maximum volume. Over time my brain
| has become accustomed to separating real sounds from the
| tinnitus. I can still really appreciate a quiet place, despite
| the roaring static in my ear. I'm sure that it helped that my
| hearing damage happened when I was relatively young, and that
| it only affects one ear, but the brain is amazingly plastic,
| adapting to cope with your limitations.
| tenken wrote:
| Have doctors not been able to help with the authors ear issues?
| .... Hearing aids don't help?...
| jeroenhd wrote:
| If they were able to, the author wouldn't have written this
| article, or would've added it at least.
|
| Tinnitus is a challenging problem because there can be physical
| causes (like hearing damage from loud music) but there's also a
| brain component. Certain diseases like MS, concussions, or some
| types of brain diseases can cause it even if your hearing
| organs are perfectly fine.
|
| It's possible the author has had damaged hearing from a very
| young age but based on the wide variety of sounds they're
| describing, I'm guessing there's more going on than just ear
| issues. It's possible that these noises are just strange
| hallucinations of the auditory cortex, like someone hearing
| voices or sounds that aren't there but expressed less
| concretely.
|
| As anecdata: an acquaintance of mine was cured of his tinnitus
| when he got therapy and made life changes to benefit his mental
| health. It turned out stress and other such problems were
| causing his hearing issues all along!
|
| As far as I know, there is no known cure to tinnitus as bad as
| this article describes. In some cases the problematic symptoms
| can be reduced (people sleeping with a fan on or some white
| noise generator running to reduce the ringing of the ears is a
| common example) but the symptoms often come back soon after
| turning off the noise.
| quantumsequoia wrote:
| I suspect you have the common misconception about how hearing
| loss works. Impared hearing doesn't mean the volume is turned
| down and needs to be increased. Often times, impared hearing
| means you can hear some frequencies perfectly fine, but are
| deaf to some frequencies (usually higher frequencies)
|
| If you are missing hair cells in your ear for a certain
| frequency, hearing aids can't make you hear them no matter how
| much they increase the volume for those frequencies. Best they
| can do is pitch shift them so you hear them at a different
| frequency.
| tenken wrote:
| ah thanks for the clarification.
|
| I suppose I was unclear, i ment in the article they mention
| some breathing techniques to try to help hearing... But i was
| curious if any other steps were taken? And if they helped
| whatsoever.
|
| I asked because their brief discussion on vision quality was
| " i lied to my doctor as a kid, and in my 30s got eye surgery
| that was scary and messed with my perceptions!"..... Yet they
| seemed to skip just using plain old glasses to aide their
| vision throughout their formative years or even young adult
| years .... Or maybe that was just a narrative omission.
|
| I was born premature at 2 lbs which caused retinopathy of
| prematurity. I've used glasses since age 2 and my eyes are
| prone to complications; having just had cataract surgery in
| my early 40s .... It seemed to me from the writing the author
| has an aversion to doctors throughout their life and seeking
| informed treatment ... But maybe I read the piece wrong...
| [deleted]
| motrm wrote:
| This was an interesting read for me, particularly around the
| phantosmia.
|
| For the past few decades - since puberty or thereabouts - I
| started to smell something unpleasant and it wouldn't go away no
| matter where I was, or how recently I'd had a wash, leading me to
| assume it must be me and that I simply smell.
|
| After suffering for a while I finally reached out to family and
| bosses at work and of course their response was that I don't
| smell, which was news to me. I had assumed I stank and everyone
| was awfully politely putting up with it.
|
| Spoken therapy and CBT helped a bit, but being the NHS it trailed
| off in an unsatisfactoy fashion and so I dealt with it myself
| over the years by becoming a hermit.
|
| Later in life I paid for further spoken therapy and was
| prescribed an SSRI anti-depressant and that finally put me on the
| path to not smelling bad smells more often than not. SSRIs of
| course have side effects which aren't fantastic, but it's better
| than the godawful feeling that you stink!
|
| I feel for the author who dealt with this on top of tinnitus.
|
| It's not often that I get to talk about this, if anyone has any
| similar experiences I'd love to hear about them :)
| nashashmi wrote:
| Could be your upper lip
| echelon_musk wrote:
| To say that I experienced a mental breakdown would be putting
| it lightly.
|
| However, in this time I experienced altered smell. I haven't
| spoken about this much. Nearly all food smelled rancid, putrid
| and rotting. Despite visually appearing to be free from decay -
| it was normal food. Humans stank, including myself and it was a
| horrible time.
|
| Eventually, also with medication, I was able to regain a more
| normal sense of smell. I suspect that human smell is something
| like a radio - capable of perceiving far more than we imagine,
| but that neurochemistry dictates where that smell frequency is
| dialled to.
|
| Perhaps as humans we are ordinarily on the evolutionarily
| optimal frequency, a kind of middle ground, despite much more
| being possible.
| ghastmaster wrote:
| Reading this was like reading my biography with the exception of
| covid nose. I on the other hand gained better sense of smell
| after a routine gallbladder removal surgery. I smell some
| fragrances for hours or days after the person has left after just
| a brief interaction. I am smelling things I never smelled before.
| quacked wrote:
| Do you enjoy having a sense of smell that powerful?
| ghastmaster wrote:
| Yes. Except twice a day when I drive by the city dump.
| criddell wrote:
| I'm also dealing with tinnitus, although I've only had it for the
| past 5 years or so (I'm 53 this year).
|
| For a while I was following the development of the drug FX-322
| and was really disappointed when it failed in trials.
|
| Does anybody here know anything about https://www.lenire.com/?
| I'm on their waiting list for the US and am hopeful.
| maininformer wrote:
| I don't know how severe yours is, but I meditate and I either
| developed or started noticing mine; then I found out many many
| meditators have it too. It is possible to not notice it in your
| day to day unless I focus on it.
| criddell wrote:
| I'm not 100% sure, but I think systems like the one I linked
| to help you train your brain to react differently to the
| stimulus (or lack of stimulus) that may cause tinnitus. I
| really don't know though and finding people who have tried
| the system is hard (I think they are mostly in Ireland).
|
| There's another system being spun out of research from
| University of Michigan that seems similar but they seem to be
| very slow getting anything to market (which may be a good
| thing).
| vvoid wrote:
| I empathize especially with the author's account of "covid nose."
| For me, Coca Cola now tastes like patchouli. When I say that out
| loud, it's easier for others to believe I'm simply a
| hypochondriac, or that I've forgotten what Coke tastes like, or
| possibly it's made differently where I'm from. As far as I can
| tell, it's nerve damage. How could I forget the taste of summer
| vacation?
|
| Back when smell loss was a common side effect of Covid, the NYT
| ran a series of articles on retraining one's sense of smell, by
| e.g. smelling all the jars on the spice rack. I found those
| articles patronizing. I can instantly recall what both Ceylon and
| Korintje cinnamon are "supposed" to smell like, but those
| memories are now mismatched with my olfactory system. All I can
| do is decide whether to accept the new sense, or just avoid the
| taste altogether.
|
| We don't discuss smell like we discuss our other senses. Perhaps
| it's due to the difficulty of producing smell on demand, unlike
| within the visual or auditory domains. Despite being one of our
| most basic senses, smell seems to lie behind an inherent veil of
| subjectivity. My experience with continuous olfactory
| "hallucination" made me second guess that.
| seiferteric wrote:
| > All I can do is decide whether to accept the new sense, or
| just avoid the taste altogether.
|
| I've accepted that my sense of smell will never fully recover
| (been about 1.5 years now). It's not as bad as when I first got
| it, where things smelled really weird and chemically/burnt,
| some things are closer to what they used to be, but overall my
| sense of smell is greatly muted from what it used to be. Kinda
| sad since I used to think I had a pretty "refined" palate :)
| moffkalast wrote:
| > I like that the word phantom is used. There are ghosts in my
| ears, spooks in my nose, tiny wraiths in my eyes.
|
| This reminds me of that quote mocking old timey doctors "You've
| got ghosts in your blood and should do cocaine to fix it."
| danparsonson wrote:
| I know someone who recently started to experience visual noise -
| spots all over their field of view like TV static. After some
| research and testing it appears they have a thing called Visual
| Snow Syndrome, sort of the eye equivalent of tinnitus.
|
| So far no idea what to do about it though - has anyone here come
| across this before?
| DontchaKnowit wrote:
| This is very common in recreational polydrug users,
| particularly in users of dissociative anesthetic drugs and
| psychedelics. So if you do those, stop for good. The effect
| will slowly mitigate.
| sneed_chucker wrote:
| I've had this for a few years now.
|
| I'd say the first thing to do is go to a doctor and rule out
| any more serious cause of the visual phenomenon, e.g. MS, brain
| tumor, and so on.
|
| If that's all clear, then you kind of have to just get used to
| it. Taking care of your overall health, like getting enough
| sleep, exercising, and eating well, seems to help people with
| their symptoms either directly or indirectly.
|
| There are a few neuro-opthalmologists working on treatments
| that seem to produce some degree of improvement in patients.
| danparsonson wrote:
| That's useful, thank you for sharing your experiences.
| [deleted]
| loa_in_ wrote:
| In my case, anecdata warning, it was caused by nose injury due
| to dry air 24/7 causing swelling inside the skull and impairing
| circulation combined with overall circulation problems, mainly
| neck tightness due to stress building up over time. It's now
| gone
| Wurlitzer wrote:
| Interesting. Did you do something in particular to make it go
| away?
| loa_in_ wrote:
| No alcohol, more rest, more coffee with cinnamon, more
| sugar to help relaxation of muscles, more magnesium, b12,
|
| extra water and salt, temporarily, to accommodate more
| fluid capacity of relaxed body and it's vessels
|
| Eye movement. Eyeballs have a little opening at the back
| that acts as a drain for eyeball fluid, but it's only able
| to drain in "wall eyed" position for me, so looking at
| something very far away
|
| Eyeball massage. Gently pressing down on your eyeballs with
| palm of hand or squeezing one's eyelids tight shut for few
| seconds repeatedly
| [deleted]
| danparsonson wrote:
| That's very interesting thank you - stress may well be a
| factor in my friend's case. Glad to hear that you recovered.
| VoodooJuJu wrote:
| I think one of the best treatments for tinnitus is, not
| experimental drugs, nor surgeries, but a book: Marcus Aurelius's
| _Meditations_. Stoicism.
|
| I have tinnitus. It's particularly bad in one ear at the moment.
| It's not ideal. Not pleasant. But I get over it, and I continue
| living my life. What's strange is, practically every time I've
| seen someone bring up their experience with tinnitus, it's
| accompanied with a deluge of whining and commiserating. It's
| weird because there are far more grave medical conditions that I
| don't think have even a fraction of the commiserating and
| depressiveness that tinnitus sufferers have.
|
| So, as a tinnitus "sufferer", that's my personal recommendation:
| Stoicism. Deal with it and move on.
| _dain_ wrote:
| have you considered the possibility that other people have a
| more severe form of tinnitus than you.
|
| besides, putting suffering in scare quotes -- i.e. macho
| posturing where you pretend the suffering is not real -- is not
| what stoicism is about at all.
| CoastalCoder wrote:
| Not everyone is at the same place in their grieving /
| acceptance/ adaptation process.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| Person with Schizoaffective Bipolar Disorder here. (I also have
| tinnitus but whatevs).
|
| Doing this has been what I feel is my greatest accomplishment.
| You know, thoughts are a sense. You sense thoughts like you sense
| sounds. You do not think thought, that is just an illusion of the
| ego. You are not the thinker!
|
| Once I understood this my life became so much easier. Nothing is
| reality to me anymore, everything is a loosely coordinated social
| hallucination. So when I see birds flying the corner of my room
| it makes sense, and I enjoy them. When I see a cat walk across
| the coffee shop I get to enjoy something no one else can. When I
| hear peoples thoughts and they are telling me they can read mine
| I open myself up to them and share my darkest secrets.
|
| We should all realize that our senses are a shared hallucination.
| It might help solve a lot of problems in the world.
| kayodelycaon wrote:
| > Thoughts are a sense.
|
| I never really thought of it that way. I can feel my mood as if
| it was any other sense. Subconscious paranoia has the feeling
| of sharks in the back of my mind.
| psychphysic wrote:
| Those are very unusual, atypical hallucinations and
| Schizoaffective disorder and Bipolar Disorder are two separate
| but similar disorders.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| "Those are very unusual, atypical hallucinations"
|
| They have been telling me that all my life. What is your
| point?
|
| "Schizoaffective disorder and Bipolar Disorder are two
| separate but similar disorders"
|
| Yes, and Schizoaffective Disorder Bipolar Type is it's own
| thing.
|
| A Misdiagnosed Case of Schizoaffective Disorder With Bipolar
| Manifestations
| https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8394638/
|
| What's your point?
|
| There is a relation to them all, some of us do not fit into
| neat little diagnostic packages. Actually, most of us do.
|
| https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/40/3/.
| ..
| [deleted]
| kayodelycaon wrote:
| From Wikipedia:
|
| There are three forms of schizoaffective disorder: bipolar
| (or manic) type (marked by symptoms of schizophrenia and
| mania), depressive type (marked by symptoms of schizophrenia
| and depression), and mixed type (marked by symptoms of
| schizophrenia, depression, and mania).
| psychphysic wrote:
| The issue isn't that, you can't simply rearrange words and
| omit others the way he used the phrase was nonsensical.
|
| And having a quick look through his post history I suspect
| it's a self diagnosis and one of several he has given
| himself, which is at times just "bipolar disorder".
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| Sometimes people do not put words in the order you want.
| Sorry.
|
| > And having a quick look through his post history I
| suspect it's a self diagnosis and one of several he has
| given himself, which is at times just "bipolar disorder".
|
| Sorry I was not specific enough for random people on the
| internet who are not into psychiatry and would probably
| not know the distinction. I usually tell people I am just
| Bipolar because that is less scary to people than the
| "Schizo" part.
|
| And you know, in general, I am nonsensical to most
| people, but most people are not as smart as me.
|
| If you want to call my doctor to verify my condition. But
| I mean how does one get disability with a diagnosis I
| made up myself? A lot of people with Long COVID would
| like to know.
| [deleted]
| austinjp wrote:
| > thoughts are a sense
|
| This is a wonderfully simple, profound insight. Thanks for
| sharing it :)
| CoastalCoder wrote:
| I'm really impressed that you came up with a mental model that
| works so well. Thanks for sharing!
| SamoyedFurFluff wrote:
| I agree and I would take this one step further. I would
| challenge that not just our senses are a shared hallucination
| but how those senses are perceived are just as prone to
| delusional thinking/beliefs not set in reality as anyone else.
| Someone can objectively type a neutral statement but you can
| interpret it as passive aggressive and now have a delusional
| belief that this person dislikes you, assuming you know their
| intent and mind.
|
| I myself run into this a lot with people who aren't on the
| schizophrenia spectrum of disorders: they tend to believe
| wholly that their interpretation of stimuli is equivalent to
| reality, and are highly resistant to the idea that their
| impressions can be wrong. This is anywhere from "you didn't
| text me back after 10 minutes, you don't like me" to "I like
| this programming language therefore I end up believing it's
| technically necessary" and especially the "I can't
| conceptualize someone else's experiences, therefore they must
| be lying".
| sabpthrwy wrote:
| Hi, I realize this is unorthodox, but there are so few people
| like you, that I'm hoping you can offer me some advice. My wife
| was diagnosed as BP1 at 18 due to psychosis associated with
| mania. Many years later in her mid 30s, I believe she's been
| misdiagnosed, as she suffers from persistent auditory
| hallucinations even when not manic, which I believe is the
| threshold for schizoaffective BP. I've actually just only come
| to learn about this disorder recently. I've thought she was BP1
| this whole time, but I think there's more to it now.
|
| The issue is that I cannot convince her that she's
| hallucinating, even though I'm positive she is. Indeed, she's
| hallucinated me saying things, and those are just about the
| only ones I can convince her. But that only happened one time.
| What's more, she believes she's hearing things from her
| doctors, so she switches them constantly. I can't get a hold of
| them either, of course, because as you probably know, family
| members have next to zero rights when it comes to this kind of
| thing.
|
| How can I ever convince her to seek help and medication for
| these hallucinations? How can I get a doctor to listen to me
| and take me seriously about what's happening to her? It seems
| impossible to break through. Even when I do convince her that a
| specific hallucination was as such, she never considers the
| possibility on her own.
|
| This leads to situations where she's cut out her entire family
| because she believes they are saying terrible things about her
| when her back is turned, or through walls. We can't pass
| strangers on the street because when we do, she's sure they're
| talking shit about her. She can't hold down a doctor because
| when she leaves, she thinks he is gossiping about her with the
| receptionist, and when they talk, of course she never brings up
| hallucinations she's having. Thank God for remote work because
| she hasn't had a serious job since 2014 until now. I don't know
| how to break this cycle, and it's only getting worse.
|
| How were you convinced that you were hallucinating?
| LeonTheremin wrote:
| Schizophrenia is electromagnetic interference caused by
| terrorists with access to advanced weaponry.
|
| The cure is to shield the nervous system by using absorbing
| material like meat or living in a shielded room.
|
| Same for Havana Syndrome, EMF hypersensitivity. Read my
| posts.
|
| Read or watch "The Three Body Problem" series to understand
| why humanity is under electromagnetic surveillance and
| sabotage and our science and tech is hindered so we can't
| defend ourselves.
|
| Religion is organized fraud to prevent scientific progress,
| but attacks with radiation are done to scientist also.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLompD6e_k
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| > Schizophrenia is electromagnetic interference
|
| I agree that EMFs play a role in mood disorders via
| activator of voltage gated ion channels.
|
| https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3780531/
|
| > caused by terrorists with access to advanced weaponry.
|
| I do not see any evidence for this.
|
| And I love you. Take care of yourself.
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| > How were you convinced that you were hallucinating?
|
| To be honest, some things were easier to spot than others. I
| used to have olfactory hallucination and it drove on ex
| girlfriend nuts cause I was always smelling things that were
| not there. I just invited she was not smelling anything.
|
| I also have closed eye visions. These appear as faces and
| scenes when I close my eyes, mostly in the evening that are
| quite visually crisp. Most of the faces are frightening. I
| did not know I was dealing with this till I started Zyprexa
| and they stopped.
|
| The visual hallucinations were easier since I would say "Did
| you see that cat?" and I would get strange looks or someone
| else there would not see them. And seriously, watching "A
| Beautiful Mind" helped me with this.
|
| The thing that helped me most was Buddhism and meditation.
| Buddhism lead me to thinking more about the nature of
| perception and meditation allowed me to perceive without
| reaction so I can judge things better.
|
| A also have perceptual changes, like being on psychedelics,
| but these are not hallucinations. I feel like I can see
| around things or everything has light trails or colors are
| really intense. When I was early in mediation the floor would
| always start waving like an ocean. When I was young I saw the
| faces of people on the TV change and I thought I was seeing
| them as they really were.
|
| I get a lot of the talk that your girlfriend has, and that is
| hard an I still deal with it but mostly by ignoring it. It is
| by far the most difficult. Its base is paranoia I feel
| because those voices are always saying negative things, like
| I did not pay for my coffee right. Ha! Just happened today!
|
| By the way, COVID threw me into my worst psychosis ever.
|
| I do not know what to say about helping her. I was in her
| space and I know how it feels. No one could convince me of
| anything. I thought the water was "too blue" coming out of my
| faucet that I called the water department twice for them to
| check it.
|
| 1) Don't take things she does personally. That eases your
| stress. 2) Do not directly contradict her hallucinations but
| try guided questioning about them. That is what 30 years of
| therapy taught me. I question everything now. 3) You can call
| her doctor and leave a message. 4) I do not recommend ever
| having her involuntarily committed unless she is a serious
| danger.
|
| But this is not something anyone else can force her into, it
| is a process of self discovery, a Shaman's journey. And maybe
| phrase it as that; A Shaman's Journey.
|
| I lost my whole family, but frankly they were not good for me
| anyway. And I still have episodes, as you can see if you go
| through my history here, but I am much more stable now than
| ever and no longer need medications.
|
| Good luck and if your want to email me:
| followingdao@proton.me
| jtr1 wrote:
| I've become very interested in the phenomenon of hyperphantasia
| recently, or the degree to which people are able to conjure
| various senses in their imagination. My wife is able to
| envision spaces well enough to recall where most things are in
| the house, a friend can nearly taste a flavor she's only
| encountered in a dream. For myself, I can recall music or
| sounds quite vividly, and on occasion this manifests as aural
| hallucinations (often with fatigue).
|
| If you don't mind me asking, I'm curious if you feel that your
| visual and aural imagination are very strong and if so, do you
| believe there's any connection with the additional sights and
| sounds you encounter out in the world?
| FollowingTheDao wrote:
| I have a strong imagination and make connections easily that
| people have a hard time seeing until I explain it.
|
| I believe most hallucination are the result of a creative
| predictive mind that is trying to understand patterns. Like I
| can often feel like I understand the meaning behind some of
| my schizophrenic friends hallucination. I think that they are
| speaking in stories and metaphors.
| _dain_ wrote:
| _> Also, the surgery seemed to introduce dark maggot-size shapes
| in the periphery of my vision. Switching from near sight to far
| sight brought on a bout of the maggots, which were hard to ignore
| at first, but I learned to forget about them. If I'd had this
| surgery as a child, I probably would have explained the maggot
| shapes by assuming the scalpel had implanted them in my eyes._
|
| we're not supposed to talk about those.
| rzzzt wrote:
| Roko's Bas- I mean, floaters? Yesterday one tortured me by
| floating towards the center of my vision where I'm reading the
| letters.
| klyrs wrote:
| I've had one of those for years, smack in the middle of one
| eye. I often read like a pirate.
| shusaku wrote:
| > The day after the procedure, I looked out the car window and
| saw, for the first time from such a distance, individual leaves
| on trees.
|
| This is how I feel every time I replace an old set of scratched
| up lenses!
| kamma4434 wrote:
| ...every time I wash my glasses...
| wwilim wrote:
| One of my most vivid memories of adolescence is walking back
| from the optometrist wearing my new glasses, after finally
| accepting that I can't continue to function without them.
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