[HN Gopher] Ivrea, industrial city of the 20th century
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Ivrea, industrial city of the 20th century
Author : rbanffy
Score : 54 points
Date : 2023-04-16 10:41 UTC (12 hours ago)
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| oldfashioned1 wrote:
| Europe has paid a high price for neglecting its manufacturing
| base. Asking it to do the impossible, producing at chinese prices
| under heavy regulation and high salaries.
| mahesh_rm wrote:
| Allegedly, Europe has paid a high price for not being able to
| enforce a strong cooperation between Military/Government and
| the Tech Industry, as the US and Silicon Valley, indeed, did.
| https://www.npr.org/2019/11/07/776834206/the-mysterious-affa...
| KineticLensman wrote:
| The big difference is that Europe is a collection of
| independent national governments, many of which were/are keen
| to independently support their own distinct domestic tech
| industries. The EU doesn't run the sort of big projects that
| dole out large amounts of govt money to tech, particularly in
| defence, which is notoriously partisan. France, Germany,
| Italy and the UK are all separately in the world top-ten
| defence exporters chart.
| nextos wrote:
| Actually UK, France, Italy, Germany, UK, Spain, and Poland
| are in the top 10: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_indus
| try#World's_largest_...
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| The problem is collaboration. Too much fragmentation and
| piles of bureaucracy.
| nr2x wrote:
| if they applied same regulations to imports they'd be smart,
| instead they hobbled themselves, made a lot of grand gestures,
| but made no contribution to sustainability as they just
| outsourced the dirty work to former colonies.
|
| typical eu.
| lostlogin wrote:
| After misreading a section which talked of Italian rationalism
| and not nationalism, I went searching. An industrialist in Italy
| in the 1930's would surely have had an interesting relationship
| with the government, especially given his seemingly socialist
| politics.
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| He did.
|
| https://media.nature.com/original/magazine-assets/d41586-019...
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| Edit: some of those houses and rooms put more recent design to
| shame. They look practical, light and beautiful.
| yawniek wrote:
| its sad my biological grandfather got a bit lost in buying
| underwood seemingly out of mortification. He also spent a lot
| of effort in a not very successful political career in as you
| say, a very interesting environment. Imagine where Ivrea would
| be today if that effort went into SGS (and his personal Health
| i guess).
| phkamp wrote:
| I worked there in the late 1980ies while Olivetti was still going
| strong and loved the place.
|
| The Arduino is from Ivrea, it rose from the ruins of Olivetti, so
| to speak.
| CalChris wrote:
| Yeah, I worked in the _typewriter factory_. I think I was there
| for a month before I was allowed to go to lunch by myself
| because otherwise I 'd get lost in its labyrinthine corridors.
| pmontra wrote:
| If you visit Italy and are interested in this kind of
| architecture you should also visit Crespi d'Adda [1] a couple of
| hours of car to the East of Ivrea, past Milan. That's another
| UNESCO site and was created for the workers of the local textile
| factory. When you're there you should also hike the Adda river to
| the north, some hydroelectric power stations from 100+ years ago,
| nice sightseeing and some Leonardo da Vinci's works of
| engineering.
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| [1] https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/730
| nr2x wrote:
| can't help but think the remaining days of google arts and
| culture aren't many. if they killed code jam and gutted the open
| source team to save a few bucks i can't imagine ruth will let
| this continue.
| mannycalavera42 wrote:
| I have the horrible feeling you're terribly right. Made me sad
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