[HN Gopher] Lofi air traffic control - LAX
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       Lofi air traffic control - LAX
        
       Author : hot_gril
       Score  : 577 points
       Date   : 2023-04-15 18:28 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.lofiatc.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.lofiatc.com)
        
       | anoncow wrote:
       | Ah it seems it is down.
        
         | cbracketdash wrote:
         | ? it seems to be working for me
        
           | rejectfinite wrote:
           | music works but airport radio is down for me
        
           | codetrotter wrote:
           | For me it played music for two seconds and then said "feed
           | down"
        
       | olkingcole wrote:
       | Great vibe. My only gripe is the music doesn't seem to be lofi at
       | all, just like slow beats. Maybe it's just where I'm at in the
       | playlist though.
        
       | infinitedata wrote:
       | This is very cool. I do think it needs two volume controls so you
       | can adjust. Music is too loud, I would like to hear the chatter
       | more and LoFi just filling the gaps.
       | 
       | I wonder if something can be build on top of it if the mix is
       | happening in the browser...
        
       | suby wrote:
       | I've been listening to this all day. If you're the creator of
       | this OP, thank you, it's very good.
        
       | reset-password wrote:
       | This is great. I'd love this with the same style radio chatter,
       | but from a bot that watches my news sources, tweets, emails, and
       | radios itself to discuss interesting things happening.
       | 
       | "An email just came in at 0743 AM from Steve.. over" ... "Yeah
       | that looks like an interesting followup to the one from John last
       | week. Someone should reply to this one. Over."
        
         | nine_k wrote:
         | Hear, hear. A real side project opportunity!
        
         | MrGilbert wrote:
         | It would require some APIs to be incorporated, and I'd really
         | appreciate if that would be done locally, but... Sounds cool!
        
         | mackopes wrote:
         | Oh this would be awesome. For very long time I've been looking
         | for an unintrusive way to receive important notifications on
         | time. And since I almost always listen to music this would work
         | well.
        
           | xattt wrote:
           | The search for a perfect notification system for a large org
           | is like a chemical clock reaction, which swings back and
           | forth between states of equilibrium.
           | 
           | No one in an org will ever be on the same page, as people
           | work on different tasks.
           | 
           | Some tasks are repetitive and allow you to dip your attention
           | in and out.
           | 
           | Other tasks might require deep thought (like composition and
           | putting words to a document) where your thoughts and output
           | can't be mixed with the sound of others coming in.
           | 
           | It works for truckers/pilots because the input/output by
           | workers is relatively the same and compatible with background
           | "noise", but this metaphor breaks down as soon as the type of
           | work changes.
        
       | Justin_K wrote:
       | Super cool. United used to let passengers listen to the flight's
       | atc comms, which I really liked. Then they merged with
       | Continental and got rid of it. I always wondered why the took
       | away that feature.
        
         | lucb1e wrote:
         | I recently saw a video where ATC made a mistake and nearly let
         | two planes get too close (one landing, another taking off, on
         | crossing runways). They caught it in time (some ATC automated
         | checking system was still doing its announcement as the
         | controller saw and diverted them both) but hearing that as a
         | passenger, I can imagine the panic that's not going to help
         | anyone.
         | 
         | Don't know if that is the reason, or if that's even a
         | legitimate reason (it's about your life after all, even if
         | you're powerless to save it), but I could imagine that being a
         | consideration.
        
           | lostlogin wrote:
           | Have an air traffic controller tell you that your about to
           | die would seem unlikely to be a panic inducing event. The
           | level of calm in utter carnage is very much a thing. I'd
           | prefer not to test this theory.
        
           | thakoppno wrote:
           | That reminds me about that one JetBlue emergency landing
           | where passengers could watch their own plane attempt a
           | landing.
           | 
           | IIRC, the flight attendants disabled the system right at
           | landing to prevent presumed panic. That decisions amusing to
           | me since there's a 15-30 second delay with satellite TV
           | anyway. I can't imagine there was a true opportunity for
           | passengers to see anything scary in this scenario.
        
           | hackernewds wrote:
           | Here is a similar deep dive into such an incident.
           | 
           | https://fallows.substack.com/p/as-bad-as-it-gets-without-
           | bod...
           | 
           | These happen pretty often, and go unreported. So there's not
           | much benefit in people finding out, on the downside there's
           | bad PR.
        
             | deepsun wrote:
             | I do some minor piloting myself and I don't think those
             | things go unreported often. Maybe uncontrollable dirt
             | airports -- yes, sure.
             | 
             | But in class Bravo, with hundreds of souls on board, when
             | all transmissions are recorded and public, and multiple
             | plane watchers listen to them in real time -- not a chance.
        
         | 1659447091 wrote:
         | They didn't take it away completely, but it's now at the flight
         | crews discretion. You can kindly ask a flight attendant to ask
         | the pilot if they will have channel 9 on or ask if they will.
         | 
         | Found this about it[0], but there is still the occasional
         | person asking about it on FF boards and the answer is still, to
         | politely ask the FA about it
         | 
         | [0] https://simpleflying.com/united-airlines-channel-9-story/
        
           | Justin_K wrote:
           | I'll have to ask next time. That said the article is quite
           | wrong in that you can't hear conversation in the cockpit,
           | only conversation on the active frequency. You could never
           | and probably will never hear pilot to copilot conversation.
        
             | 1659447091 wrote:
             | Guess I wasn't paying attention to it, I skimmed it since I
             | fly United often and already knew what it actually was (not
             | pilot conversation). Wasn't sure about posting a specific
             | thread from www.flyertalk.com [0] probably should have just
             | posted that. I dont usually have much luck with it, but I
             | only remember half the time to ask.
             | 
             | [0] https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-
             | mileageplus/...
        
         | mmaunder wrote:
         | Know-it-all PPLs on the flight giving other passengers blow by
         | blow commentary while critiquing the captain. That and not
         | wanting pax to think about being in an aluminum tube traveling
         | 0.7 Mach while in said tube.
        
           | schoen wrote:
           | I used to have some fear of flying, and listening to channel
           | 9 helped me get over it, because I learned more about how
           | safe and expected turbulence was, and how familiar everyone
           | was with the various procedures and in-flight events.
           | 
           | I'm not sure everyone would have the same reaction, but I
           | found it very calming. Maybe the fact that people like to
           | listen to ATC conversations in order to relax is a good sign
           | for the likely effects on many passengers.
           | 
           | It's true that you could occasionally learn about an error or
           | a dangerous event that you wouldn't otherwise have been aware
           | of at all, but I also think many passengers would be
           | impressed by how professionally problems are usually handled.
           | I've been on two flights that had to divert (for a bird
           | strike and a passenger medical issue, respectively) and one
           | flight that had a missed approach and go-around (in very high
           | crosswinds), and, while none of them had channel 9, I'm quite
           | confident that ATC was prepared to handle these situations
           | and that many passengers would also have been impressed to
           | have heard those conversations.
           | 
           | I'm happy to admit that getting more information about what's
           | going on wouldn't always be comfortable or reassuring to
           | everyone, though.
        
             | kayodelycaon wrote:
             | Same here. I've watched a lot of air accident breakdowns
             | and read more than a few NTSB reports. The way safety is a
             | core of commercial aviation is just incredible and so far
             | beyond everything I see in daily life. The way cars are
             | handle is positively horrific.
        
           | bragr wrote:
           | 0.7 mach would be pretty slow for a commercial airliner these
           | days. Mach 0.8-0.9 is typical now.
        
       | omeid2 wrote:
       | "Everyone" uses IATA, why use ICAO codes?
        
         | Zeyka wrote:
         | Iata codes are just used with passengers, icao codes are used
         | for everything else.
        
       | amelius wrote:
       | Add some midjourney-generated manga drawings.
        
       | blastro wrote:
       | love it! bookmarked
        
       | handedness wrote:
       | Recent discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35126914
        
       | blt wrote:
       | don't listen to KATL towers combined if you want to relax!
        
       | 4ndrewl wrote:
       | This (well EHAM) is one of my standard daily listens whilst WFH.
       | That and the Flying Fortress over at MyNoise (a service I pay
       | for)
       | https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/propellerNoiseGenerator.ph...
        
         | samstave wrote:
         | HAHA - I came here to say the same (I pay for it as well, and I
         | love the flying fortress with radio chatter...
         | 
         | I just spent some time adding layers of sound to the actual ATC
         | chatter, then I add individual layers, like distant thunder,
         | b29, singing bowls and rain etc...
         | 
         | https://i.imgur.com/8jJkh1B.png
         | 
         | Ill try to share an MP3...
        
         | lofi8320948 wrote:
         | Boston College's FM station WZBC has a program No Commercial
         | Potential, which plays lots of experimental sounds, some of it
         | sounds like MyNoise Flying Fortress. Everything depends on the
         | DJ and their mood, but some of it has this vibe.
         | 
         | https://www.wzbc.org/after-hours-ncp
        
         | t0mas88 wrote:
         | EHAM tower or the high speed ballet of the radar guys?
        
         | ashton314 wrote:
         | MyNoise is the best. Stephane seems like such a respectful,
         | down-to-earth guy. I don't pay for many subscriptions--I go out
         | of my way to avoid them--but I put some good money into MyNoise
         | regularly because it's been such a valuable service. It's
         | optional--I don't actually use many of the paid features--but I
         | appreciate it so dang much.
        
           | s5300 wrote:
           | [flagged]
        
       | deepsun wrote:
       | I always had problems understanding what they say so quickly. Are
       | there any voice recognition AIs that are trained on ATC voice
       | data, with typical RF noise?
        
         | woodson wrote:
         | There are some projects, such as this one:
         | https://github.com/idiap/w2v2-air-traffic
         | 
         | They transcribed 5000 hours of ATC speech data (available for
         | licensing, not free).
        
       | techwizrd wrote:
       | When this was previously posted, some of the commenters mentioned
       | that this might be breaking the LiveATC TOS:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35126914
        
         | humanizersequel wrote:
         | And then other commenters, namely myself, actually read the TOS
         | and realized that there's no reason to think that.
        
           | 0xffff2 wrote:
           | There's no reason not to think that either as far as I can
           | see from that thread.
        
             | humanizersequel wrote:
             | Everything on that site is fine by the TOS so long as she
             | had permission to use the streams. Since the site has been
             | up for 2 years, I think it's pretty safe to assume she got
             | permission.
        
       | johnchristopher wrote:
       | SomaFM has https://somafm.com/player/#/now-playing/sf1033
       | (ambient with real-time chat from LAPD) and
       | https://somafm.com/player/#/now-playing/missioncontrol (ambient
       | and Houston old chit-chat I think).
       | 
       | They also have this new n5md channel that has sooooo many good
       | tracks :).
       | 
       | I don't get Lofi, it's way too sad/nostalgic to me to be relaxing
       | but the oversound here is okay (for a bit).
       | 
       | edit: BUT. Sometimes somaFM will sing tunes that sounds like Ross
       | from Friends or weird 32 minutes "dzing-dzin" loop. When it
       | happens I click on "wtf ?!" in the app and switch to another
       | channel (that I flood with "I love this").
        
         | Balgair wrote:
         | I love lofi streams on YT. I especially love them combined with
         | ambient nature bathing.
         | 
         | Something about it is sad/nostalgic, for sure. But when you get
         | that ambient nature bathing in there, it becomes, to me, more
         | hopeful and ... healing, in a way. Nostalgia is still there,
         | but more of the hopeful/relaxing vibes than the sad ones.
         | 
         | I got way into them during lockdowns, obviously, but have kept
         | it up. The trick is finding a real nature bathing track. Not
         | just some soundboards that loop or are set at random. Real high
         | quality audio from real places over hours of time are rare, but
         | very worth it. My post history has more on the specific tracks
         | I've found, with a few other commenters chipping in every once
         | in a while.
         | 
         | You get a bit more wanderlust, tempered by the lofi. It's a
         | strange brew, but gets me through the days.
        
         | lostlogin wrote:
         | > Sometimes somaFM will sing tunes that sounds like Ross from
         | Friends
         | 
         | Add a laugh track and your descent into hell will be complete.
        
           | actionfromafar wrote:
           | Just so everybody understands, there's an actual band named
           | "Ross from Friends".
        
             | lostlogin wrote:
             | I was way off track, Sorry.
        
               | johnchristopher wrote:
               | Well, you were not ! I didn't know about
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_from_Friends, I was
               | thinking about that particular segment:
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLa8Br569gA&t=90s (laugh
               | track included).
        
       | n1b0m wrote:
       | How do air traffic controllers understand what's being said with
       | all the static?
        
         | someweirdperson wrote:
         | Practice... getting used to. And in some cases better receivers
         | than the one on someones private roof used to capture the
         | transmissions for the stream.
        
       | dafelst wrote:
       | Why is this so strangely relaxing? What an amazing idea.
        
         | throwawaaarrgh wrote:
         | It's relaxing until they start speaking paragraphs very fast,
         | over and over, then it feels stressful ):
        
           | imp0cat wrote:
           | Try Narita. https://www.lofiatc.com/?icao=RJAA
        
         | capableweb wrote:
         | Mixing high-quality full-spectrum audio with low-quality and
         | small-spectrum voice always sound neat :)
         | 
         | The measured and calm voice of ATC and pilots probably just
         | makes it better, it always sound like they have everything 100%
         | under control.
        
           | Waterluvian wrote:
           | "Contact" on the Random Access Memories album does this well.
           | [1]
           | 
           | That entire song makes me picture a white knuckling
           | unscheduled re-entry followed by nail biting waiting,
           | concluded by a successful splash down.
           | 
           | [1] https://youtu.be/JI5noh4OyXc
        
         | tpmx wrote:
         | The HN submission page could play something like this in the
         | background to soothe people while they are preparing their
         | angry submissions.
         | 
         | Heh, who am I kidding, HN runs on outrage just like all the
         | other social networks.
        
           | PebblesRox wrote:
           | Now I'm imagining a writing/journaling app that automatically
           | chooses a playlist based on the emotions or concepts detected
           | in the writing.
        
       | varenc wrote:
       | I noticed that the KLAX audio feed is in stereo and isolates the
       | voice chatter to either the left or the right channel. Which
       | might be confusing on headphones.
       | 
       | I'm not sure how it's determined what audio goes to each channel
       | but it seems very intentional. I'm guessing this is a way of
       | listening to to multiple overlapping channels. Does anyone know
       | more about this? Is separating radio chatter into distinct
       | channels and listening over stereo something air traffic
       | controllers do in practice or is that just for the benefit of
       | this feed?
       | 
       | p.s. here's just the KLAX feed without the lofi beats:
       | https://s1-bos.liveatc.net/klax_twr
        
         | FL410 wrote:
         | Not sure if air traffic controllers do it but pilots do. Often
         | will have one radio on in the left ear and another in the
         | right. The newer audio panels will do "3d audio" so it's more
         | spatial.
         | 
         | When you have it this way, it's easier for your brain to ignore
         | one when you are paying attention to the other.
        
           | someweirdperson wrote:
           | > Not sure if air traffic controllers do it but pilots do.
           | Often will have one radio on in the left ear and another in
           | the right.
           | 
           | It sounds very general, that pilots do, and often. I guess it
           | is missing a "some", "few", and/or "I" somewhere.
           | 
           | Of all the various headset connectors [0], only redel/lemo
           | and (probably) fischer are stereo. That's a very small part
           | of the complete GA fleet, and likely even lower in commercial
           | (if modern, using 5-pin XLR).
           | 
           | edit: Looks like U174 is stereo, too.
           | 
           | [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_headset_
           | con...
        
         | blt wrote:
         | South tower (runways 25L & 25R) and North tower (runways 24L &
         | 24R) are on different frequencies. On LiveATC you can listen to
         | each tower individually.
        
       | Etheryte wrote:
       | Very pleasant to have this playing in the background. Is there a
       | list of the playlist available somewhere?
        
         | oriettaxx wrote:
         | broadcasts here https://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php
         | 
         | but I guess you want the music, don't you? (me, too)
        
       | bhargav wrote:
       | I watch a lot of VASAviation YT videos and listen to liveatc here
       | and there. My parents travel every bi-weekly so when possible I
       | always have LiveATC + Flightradar on and track their arrival and
       | taxing. This is a great idea to fill in the "gaps" between comms.
       | Thanks for sharing.
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | molokow wrote:
       | bernie sanders filibuster lofi:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6qy_9E0rY
        
       | kqr wrote:
       | Similar to this, I like listening to the Apollo missions in real
       | time[1], picking one active specific station at a time and
       | listening just to that. FIDO is a good one!
       | 
       | [1]: https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/
        
       | moralestapia wrote:
       | Came here to mention SomaFM and am glad to see many other
       | comments about it.
       | 
       | Don't forget to support! https://somafm.com/
        
       | timthorn wrote:
       | I live at the start of the final approach path to one of the
       | London airports, and used to live at an equivalent point for one
       | of the others. I started to put together a site that combined ATC
       | audio, ADS-B data and a live webcam - but then found it would be
       | illegal to include the audio in the UK. :/
        
       | CalRobert wrote:
       | related - from 12(!) years ago
       | 
       | http://youarelisteningtolosangeles.com/
       | 
       | It expanded to other cities. Montreal police meant I wasn't
       | distracted since I don't speak French.
        
       | southernplaces7 wrote:
       | Love this
        
       | Invictus0 wrote:
       | I just wish the ATC audio were processed a bit more: maybe slow
       | it down and put in some reverb?
        
         | KiranRao0 wrote:
         | Slowing down would be hard since it's a live stream
        
           | smcnally wrote:
           | not recommended for pilots and controlling air traffic, but
           | ffmpeg's 'atempo' filter works on audio streams:
           | 
           | 'ffmpeg -i ATC.wav -filter:a "atempo=0.5" -vn lofiatc.wav'
           | 
           | https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-filters.html#atempo
        
             | WantonQuantum wrote:
             | KiranRao0's point is that this will eventually fail:
             | 
             | curl -L http://d.liveatc.net/klax_twr | ffmpeg -i -
             | -filter:a atempo=0.5 -f s24le - | ffplay -f s24le -ar 8k
             | -ac 2 -
             | 
             | First, the pipe buffer between curl and ffmpeg will fill up
             | (something like 64k) and then curl will be more and more
             | delayed getting the next bit of audio from the server.
             | Eventually the HTTP connection will fail. How and when that
             | happens depends on exactly how the server is set up.
             | 
             | On my machine (Ubuntu) it stops after about 15 minutes.
             | 
             | You could increase the buffer size with pv or use a
             | temporary file of course.
        
       | rejectfinite wrote:
       | Something about radio comms is soothing to me and I love lofi!
       | Thank you
        
       | 8bitsrule wrote:
       | Search doesn't accept city-names but ... if you find the 3-letter
       | IATA airport-code for a particular city (say Pittsburg, PIT)...
       | search for it with a K in front of it (KPIT), it's got many of
       | them.
       | 
       | US: https://www.airportcodes.us/us-airports.htm
       | 
       | (Edit: At KFNT, e.g., you'll find much less talk !)
        
       | rochak wrote:
       | That's very nice :)
        
       | dadzilla wrote:
       | I love these stations. SomaFM carries this and others (or maybe
       | they are just similar mash-ups). I have tinnitus 100% of the
       | time, and silence is the enemy. This kind of sound - indistinct,
       | with variety and high frequencies, is the most helpful.
        
       | chambo622 wrote:
       | None of the airport feeds I've tried have worked, unfortunately.
        
         | elliottcarlson wrote:
         | KJFK was the only one that loaded immediately and had ATC comms
         | going. KEWR took forever to load and even when Live nothing was
         | coming through.
        
         | Mr-Mercury wrote:
         | KLAX South Tower has a pretty decent of traffic from what I've
         | noticed.
        
       | eiiot wrote:
       | If you're interested in listening to more ATC stuff, LiveATC[0]
       | is a pretty good service for listening in while at airports or on
       | a plane (or just while sitting around). I use it when traveling
       | for fun, and it works really well! (The only issue is figuring
       | out what frequency your aircraft is on)
       | 
       | [0]: https://www.liveatc.net/
        
       | initramfs wrote:
       | Hollywood has a way of turning anything into a production.
        
         | jjulius wrote:
         | ... what does this have to do with Hollywood?
        
           | initramfs wrote:
           | Layering music over footage/audio(content) is a production.
           | Not saying it's bad nor good. Just a fact.
        
             | jjulius wrote:
             | It's a _music_ production trick employed by untold numbers
             | of musicians all over the world, more commonly known as
             | "sampling".
             | 
             | It has nothing to do with Hollywood.
        
               | lostlogin wrote:
               | Its history goes way back - quite interesting and as you
               | say, not Hollywood or even US in origin (according to the
               | below).
               | 
               | https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-first-song-to-use-
               | sampling/...
        
               | initramfs wrote:
               | I must have a neurological condition called synesthesia
               | where audio appear like images.
        
       | hyperific wrote:
       | Automated weather service would be cool too
        
         | galangalalgol wrote:
         | Weather radio repeat cycle is too short. It becomes noticeable
         | and then irritating and distracting. I keep wanting to try
         | shortwave news in a language I don't know but sounds nice. If
         | it has too many english or Spanish cognates I'll probably get
         | distracted trying to figure out what is said. Something tonal
         | perhaps, Welsh or Chinese.
        
           | ilikepi wrote:
           | Maybe try the BBC shipping forecast?
           | 
           | https://youtu.be/CxHa5KaMBcM
           | 
           | I find the use of the Beaufort scale
           | (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_scale) gives it a
           | particularly dry flavor...
        
           | hyperific wrote:
           | Tycho worked weather reports into some of his songs and it
           | added a nice texture but that's a fair point that the repeat
           | cycle is too short for streaming music like this.
        
         | hyperific wrote:
         | https://www.weatherusa.net/radio
        
       | alfred_joseph wrote:
       | As soon as I started listening I heard about AS1412 making an
       | emergency landing
        
       | oakmad wrote:
       | https://listentothe.cloud/ Is my favorite. There's something
       | really soothing about certain regional accents and the rhythm of
       | their comms. I really liked Hong Kong but it always seems to be
       | offline now.
        
       | SomeBoolshit wrote:
       | Very reminiscent of the soma FM station where they have music
       | over an SF police scanner.
        
       | joeysim wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | nine_k wrote:
       | Speaking about an opposite thing: am I the only one who gets
       | terribly distracted by any hint of human speech in the ambient
       | sounds? In my case, it completely destroys concentration; my mind
       | immediately switches to listening mode, trying to understand the
       | speech and tune in to the conversation.
       | 
       | This is why I only listen to the instrumental music during work,
       | and pain to hear an occasional phrase dropped into a perfectly
       | good IDM / synthwave / electronica track. I wish a "speech-free"
       | tag existed e.g. on Bandcamp; some artists helpfully put
       | annotations on their albums, e.g. Master Boot Record's "100%
       | dehumanized", but apparently most artists and likely listeners do
       | not see the presence of words as a large differentiator.
       | 
       | I know 2-3 of my friends who exhibit a similar effect. I wonder
       | if it's rare, or not so rare but not noticed much.
        
         | mdekkers wrote:
         | I was just thinking exactly the same thing - this is nice, but
         | _so_ distracting. I typically listen to the Lounge channel on
         | DI.FM for happy chillout background vibes that don't distract
        
         | mhink wrote:
         | I experience something similar, but it seems to have more to do
         | with *how familiar* I am with the song. If it's something I've
         | never heard before, it's much more distracting- even if it
         | doesn't have words. On the other hand, if I've listened to it a
         | lot, it seems to have the opposite effect, and helps me
         | concentrate.
         | 
         | I get this when trying to fall asleep, too: I can't fall asleep
         | while watching something new! But give me an episode of
         | Futurama I've watched about six hundred and thirty-two times,
         | and I'll be out like a light. :)
         | 
         | That being said, this site is interesting because the speech is
         | somewhat less distinct and has the odd cadence of aviation
         | radio. I'll give it a listen for awhile and see if I get the
         | same effect as you.
        
           | mihaic wrote:
           | This effect of media familiarity is exactly the same for me:
           | I can be very creating when listening to an old playlist, but
           | can't think at all when listening to something new.
           | 
           | Not all people seem to be like this though, as I have friends
           | that listen to the radio/randomly recommended Spotify songs
           | at work.
        
         | andrepd wrote:
         | True, but on the other hand I also get distracted at
         | instruments x) Classical music especially is a no-no, I'll get
         | too interested and stop paying attention to what I'm doing lol.
         | 
         | However, ambient sounds are perfect. I'll never get tired of
         | plugging this: mynoise.net
        
         | chungus wrote:
         | Yup, same here. It's why I also mostly listen to instrumental
         | music. A lot of Aphex Twin. On top of that, when I listen to
         | (catchy) music with lyrics, it keeps looping in the background
         | of my brain non-stop, sometimes multiple days. A positive -sort
         | of related- thing: it's very easy for me to listen to audio-
         | books while driving or doing other things and not miss anything
         | because I'm so focused on the speech.
        
         | Metacelsus wrote:
         | Same. That's why when I'm working, I listen to either classical
         | music, or metal music where the words are unintelligible.
        
           | nine_k wrote:
           | Indeed, some classical choir parts apparently have highly
           | significant lyrics, but even discerning words boundaries in
           | these walls of sound is so hard that it does not trigger my
           | comprehension.
        
         | hnarn wrote:
         | > am I the only one who gets terribly distracted by any hint of
         | human speech in the ambient sounds? In my case, it completely
         | destroys concentration
         | 
         | I'm the same, which is why my favorite ambient music for work
         | is black metal. You still get music that mirrors how
         | troubleshooting kubernetes makes you feel, but you couldn't
         | hear the lyrics if you tried :-)
        
           | nine_k wrote:
           | ...and it _also_ contains mysterious unholy-sounding
           | incantations, like some kubectl command line full of literal
           | hex.
        
         | dado3212 wrote:
         | I have this, but I also love lyrical music as opposed to just
         | instrumental tracks. My solution was listening to music in
         | languages I don't understand (French, Icelandic, etc) where
         | there's still the tonal patterns and vocal layering, but
         | doesn't flip my brain into "speech processing" mode.
        
         | CalRobert wrote:
         | Me too, but only when my work involves words. When I was in
         | photoshop all day I listened to podcasts constantly and did
         | fine.
        
           | nine_k wrote:
           | It looks like working with text and listening to speech
           | requires the same language-processing brain circuitry, and
           | it's not optimized for parallel processing.
        
         | imbnwa wrote:
         | Late 10s Chillwave works for me though
        
         | alonsonic wrote:
         | This has been studied before and it seems that yes your brain
         | has trouble ignoring music with lyrics.
         | 
         | Based on this study[1] you lose at least 10 IQ points when
         | studying and listening to music with lyrics.
         | 
         | [1] https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/12/04/listening-to-
         | class...
        
           | T3OU-736 wrote:
           | Hrm. The study's size of 25 participants, and the inherent
           | variance of IQ score estimation both seem to smell more of a
           | confirmation bias than a legit anything else.
        
         | goodpoint wrote:
         | No, it's absolutely normal. It's difficult to ignore voices.
         | 
         | The same way it's difficult to tell the color of a written word
         | if the word itself is a color.
        
         | VBprogrammer wrote:
         | I definitely get where you are coming from. I've been known to
         | listen to music in languages I don't know as a bit of a work
         | around for that.
        
           | M3L0NM4N wrote:
           | Lol I started listening to Spanish music to work around that
           | issue as well, but when I listen to the same song so long I
           | can get used to it, plus I speak a basic level of Spanish.
        
             | nine_k wrote:
             | Same here. Switching to Japanese helped, until I achieved a
             | basic level of Japanese. This also killed Korean lyrics,
             | because Korean _sounds_ similar enough to Japanese to
             | trigger my attention, but I can 't understand a word! :-D
        
           | scns wrote:
           | I even get distracted by those.
        
       | nathanmcrae wrote:
       | Some others have mentioned SomaFM and the Apollo missions
       | separately, but SomaFM has a station that combines ambient music
       | and the Apollo mission audio: https://somafm.com/missioncontrol/
        
         | theK wrote:
         | Soma is such a great station! If you are a Hardcore listener
         | some channels might appear a bit repetitive from time to time
         | but in my experience this self corrects over time.
        
         | TigeriusKirk wrote:
         | Are there any feeds of live current space mission audio?
        
         | Sosh101 wrote:
         | If you like soma, also check out blue mars:
         | http://echoesofbluemars.org/
         | 
         | edit: just been listening to that Apollo channel - fascinating
         | recordings.
        
         | SllX wrote:
         | I didn't know I needed this in my life until now. Thanks!
        
       | gokhan wrote:
       | Also this
       | 
       | https://listentothe.cloud/
        
       | rafalages wrote:
       | Has anyone found an airport from Brazil? I couldn't find any
       | codes starting with SB.
        
         | jconnop wrote:
         | Don't think this site is including them, but you can listen to
         | Brazil ATC here:
         | 
         | https://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=international-sa
        
       | lispisok wrote:
       | Being able to adjust the volume of the music and radio is an
       | underrated and greatly appreciated feature. Great job whoever
       | made this
        
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