[HN Gopher] 'A huge blunder': GM's decision to ditch CarPlay, An...
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'A huge blunder': GM's decision to ditch CarPlay, Android Auto
sparks backlash
Author : CharlesW
Score : 23 points
Date : 2023-04-14 18:58 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| travisporter wrote:
| Rivian doublding down on this is also a bit disappointing. Not
| that I can afford one
| mikestew wrote:
| Picking up our Hyundai Ioniq 5 this afternoon. We were seriously
| going to wait for a 2024 EV Chevy Blazer[0], but...
|
| [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35391283
| SkyPuncher wrote:
| You're going to love it.
|
| We have a Palisade. Hyundai has done so much right on their
| recent cars. I'm sure they've made even better EV's
| jdlyga wrote:
| Car infotainment systems are terrible. That's the reason why
| everyone wants CarPlay and Android Auto. It's kind of like going
| back to flip phones after using smartphones for years.
| pg938hkd wrote:
| [dead]
| mensetmanusman wrote:
| They will either write something workable, or this endeavor will
| fail, and they will go back to the tried and true.
| 1970-01-01 wrote:
| Short term, this is stupid. GM pulled out too quickly, and
| without a superior drop-in replacement. Long-term, this is smart.
| GM will gain complete control of the software stack, and they
| won't be bullied into anything. Tesla knows this. Others like
| Rivian know it too.
| CharlesW wrote:
| > _Long-term, this is smart. GM will gain complete control of
| the software stack..._
|
| CarPlay (I'm not familiar with Android Auto) doesn't require
| that GM cede any control over their software stack. As
| Wikipedia puts it, it just "enables a car radio or head unit to
| be a display and a controller for an iOS device".
|
| What GM _wants_ is to charge you $30 /month for services, since
| phones have mostly killed their OnStar cash cow. What they're
| going to learn is the extent to which "doesn't work with my
| phone" is going to be a deciding factor for vehicle purchases.
| fzzzy wrote:
| Well ok, but this is why I will never buy a tesla, rivian, or
| gm.
| urbandw311er wrote:
| I do have some sympathy for GM -- as much as the public might
| want it, continuing down the current path is certainly ceding a
| fair amount of control over their customer base to two large
| third parties.
| WorldMaker wrote:
| Except that in this case GM is still using Android Automotive
| the kernel (not to be confused with Android Auto, the user
| feature they plan to disable; thanks Google marketing for two
| easily confused brand names here). GM is _still_ ceding a fair
| amount of control to Google and Google apps even if apparently
| Google is promising GM far more user data sharing.
|
| (Which leaves me somewhat wondering how much Google is paying
| GM to eliminate Apple CarPlay from the picture? Apple seems the
| only company inconvenienced here. Most of the inconvenience is
| born by the users of a loss of key user-facing features.)
| scarface74 wrote:
| Yes instead of merely supporting Android Auto, they are now
| fully dependent on Android Automotive.
|
| Meet the new boss...
| lockhouse wrote:
| I don't understand why they can't have their own system and still
| support CarPlay. They are not mutually exclusive options.
| scarface74 wrote:
| And Android Automotive supports CarPlay.
| exabrial wrote:
| The better option is: remove infotainment completely and
| _require_ a smartphone for anything other than FM/AM radio.
|
| * Support an open protocol for rendering images/video/animations
| on the screen. Sorta like... you know, CarPlay.
|
| * Have controls for what events are allowed to be sent to the
| connected device. Don't want your phone to know your Throttle
| Position? Turn that shit off. Don't want your phone to know
| whether it's dark/light outside? Turn that on/off too.
| autoexec wrote:
| Personally, I wont ever connect my phone to my car at all (if my
| next car doesn't have an aux port I'll install one myself), but I
| have to assume that GM is doing this because their own software
| siphons more data off of our devices than even carplay or andriod
| auto does.
|
| > "GM is looking to monetize more software and services within
| its vehicles and is taking a page out of Tesla's playbook,"
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| Since they're only doing this because they want to take even more
| of your money after you've already spent a small fortune buying
| their vehicle, consumers pushing back against this is a good idea
| even if you don't have strong feelings about what software your
| car uses.
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