[HN Gopher] Juice launch to Jupiter - Live [video]
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       Juice launch to Jupiter - Live [video]
        
       Author : csantini
       Score  : 167 points
       Date   : 2023-04-14 11:49 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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       | hermitcrab wrote:
       | I couldn't a damn about sports. But I get quite nervous watching
       | rocket launches, thinking about all the money and effort that
       | have gone into them. I was so relieved when the JW turned out to
       | be a massive success.
        
       | drtgh wrote:
       | Recorded video launch:
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       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvHcGmQPcsI&t=2873s
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       | min 47:53
        
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       | woliveirajr wrote:
       | After SpaceX, I always expect to see live cams. Of course, that
       | would just add weight and complexity without relevant benefits
       | except the entertainement... but being entertained is fun :-)
        
         | go_elmo wrote:
         | Getting more publicity and public support and get the science
         | much further in the mid to long term. Its a legitimate
         | consideration to make imo. Were not bound by rocket capacity as
         | much as we are by public support & funding.
        
           | felixg3 wrote:
           | I think that proper science communication and marketing is
           | crucial, at the same time, it is very difficult to explain
           | with numbers and graphs, while it is so much easier with
           | multispectral imaging (see the success of Hubble and the Mars
           | images).
        
           | harles wrote:
           | Certainly helps with their next set of grant proposals.
        
         | pfdietz wrote:
         | Live cam data can be useful in analysis of failures.
        
           | Thlom wrote:
           | Probably doesn't matter much for this one as it is the last
           | Ariane 5 launch (afaik). Maybe they can get cameras on the 6.
        
           | Kye wrote:
           | What can a camera tell you that more sensors couldn't?
        
             | chmod775 wrote:
             | A camera _is_ a sensor.
        
               | Kye wrote:
               | A camera is a tool for rendering light on a medium. That
               | medium could be a sensor. Rendered light can tell you a
               | lot about what the medium is facing, but you can pack a
               | lot more sensors than cameras on to a spacecraft.
               | Especially on the parts that aren't illuminated. Besides,
               | you need a big sensor on a camera to capture anything in
               | low light without a lot of expensive processing, and that
               | means you need shielding and cooling because they get hot
               | and don't do well in all that radiation.
               | 
               | So sure. You _could_ put huge chips in hot boxes with
               | delicate glass all over the craft. Or could you wire in a
               | bundle of little sensors that tell you stuff you 'd never
               | get from light.
        
             | Diederich wrote:
             | Video of the SRB leak just prior to the Challenger disaster
             | was quite useful after the fact.
        
               | pfdietz wrote:
               | Also, the video of the foam chunk hitting the Columbia's
               | wing.
               | 
               | An early Falcon 1 launch failed because the first stage
               | recontacted the second after staging. You'll note one of
               | the F9 cameras is looking up at the second stage from
               | inside the first stage's interstage section.
        
               | Diederich wrote:
               | The Columbia case is a better example than the Challenger
               | case, because they actually caught that right after
               | launch and analyzed it, though incorrectly.
        
               | ncphil wrote:
               | Well, the analysis at the engineering level was correct.
               | Problem is, the engineers weren't allowed to confirm it.
               | That was a management decision, made on the grounds that,
               | "There's nothing we can do".
        
             | macintux wrote:
             | I'm not remotely an expert, but cameras have a much larger
             | coverage area than any sensor could.
             | 
             | And I assume a sensor can tell you "this piece stopped
             | talking" but a camera in right place could tell you
             | "because it fell off when a screw fell out", so presumably
             | they're complementary.
        
         | behnamoh wrote:
         | Entertainment = Money. People will support things that give
         | them a good time. Just look at the Hollywood.
        
           | usrusr wrote:
           | Certainly a peculiar relationship. Your post made me wonder
           | when the first dogecoin private key will reach escape
           | velocity. Any bets? I think we can agree that the "if" and
           | "who" is already settled...
        
             | nanidin wrote:
             | Assuming signals move through fiber optic cables at 69% of
             | c, it has already been done.
             | 
             | A similar argument could be made for a key being
             | transmitted via radio signal that has slipped out to space.
        
       | samwillis wrote:
       | Related thread (66 comments) from yesterday:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35551870
        
       | hackede wrote:
       | Juice launch to Jupiter - Live [video]
        
       | zabzonk wrote:
       | this kind of stuff always encourages me to think we can do good
       | things, when we are not being mind-numbingly stupid.
        
       | braymundo wrote:
       | If you just started watching, at this point the team is waiting
       | for the first signals from the probe.
       | 
       | [Edit: acquired successfully :)].
        
         | robin_reala wrote:
         | ...and signal acquired! Telemetry is coming in.
        
       | AtiRadeon9700 wrote:
       | This launch reminded me of the now long-cancelled JIMO mission..
       | 
       | JUICE is probably _fine_, but I can't help wishing that we had
       | had the $ and the stones to go for the real deal :)
        
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       | addled wrote:
       | Oh nice! I've always thought this was a cool mission, but it has
       | felt more... personal after seeing 17776.
        
         | moffkalast wrote:
         | I hope it has lots of neatly partitioned meats and cheeses
         | onboard.
        
         | thirdmunky wrote:
         | The parent is referring to this article [1], which features
         | JUICE and two other satellites as characters observing humans
         | on earth after the advent of immortality.
         | 
         | It's a great read. It's thoroughly and wonderfully human.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.sbnation.com/a/17776-football
        
       | mikebonnell wrote:
       | Congrats to the whole Juice and ESA teams involved!
        
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