[HN Gopher] Is GPT-4 Worth the Subscription? Here's What You Sho...
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Is GPT-4 Worth the Subscription? Here's What You Should Know
Author : paulpauper
Score : 21 points
Date : 2023-04-13 20:19 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.wired.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.wired.com)
| psychphysic wrote:
| The Wired article was more banal than the concept of overnight
| oats it includes. And there newsletter ad breaks!
|
| I feel dirty having clicked the link, some how it's worse than
| the "that paragraph you just read was written by AI!" trope.
|
| For those who didn't click it's just 3 awful samples that no one
| would ever use ChatGPT for and a note that the current
| unguaranteed access for plus subscribers is 25 queries/3 hours.
|
| I'm not being hyperbolic GPT-4 would produce a better article
| although the limiting factor is a lack of creative premise for
| the article. And that'd be needed either way it reassures me to
| think that AI won't (yet) replace good writers. Just the lazy
| ones.
| [deleted]
| donpark wrote:
| Early access to new features or services justifies the monthly
| expense in my case.
|
| Arguably, ChatGPT Plus service fee helps them create a large pool
| of developers and early adopters which can be used as robust
| sounding board better than free service users can or will.
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| I am happy enough paying $20/month. GPT-4 is better. That said, I
| usually use the APIs (I have written 3 books that have OpenAI API
| examples; my own coding projects, GPT-3.5turbo with Emacs
| bindings, and I also pay GitHub for CoPilot with Emacs
| integration).
|
| I have a larger personal project using GPT-4 API, LangChain, and
| LlamaIndex that I am currently obsessed with.
| czx4f4bd wrote:
| I pay for it because I can afford it, but honestly I haven't been
| super impressed.
|
| GPT-4 is definitely better at some tasks and moderately less
| prone to hallucination, but it botched the first couple scripting
| tasks I gave it, so it didn't exactly wow me. The main difference
| I've observed is that it gives wordier responses than GPT-3.5.
|
| That said, I might have a different opinion if usage of GPT-4
| weren't so severely rate-limited. Currently, you can only send 25
| requests every 3 hours, so it's hard to experiment with it as
| freely as I want.
| SanderNL wrote:
| Use the API if you want some more time with it. You'll pay for
| the tokens you use, but twenty bucks gets you some hours of
| experimentation depending on how fast you're going.
| Kranar wrote:
| Do you have any references for how I can do this?
| addisonl wrote:
| Not the person you asked, but the OpenAI playground is a
| great place to start messing with their API, I wrote this
| to help: https://www.inputoutput.ai/tutorials/openai-
| playground-guide
|
| However, you need access to the GPT-4 API which you have to
| request separately. So even if you have GPT-4 with chatGPT
| Plus you might not have access to GPT-4 through the
| playground/API.
| TomJansen wrote:
| You first need to get access to the API, which is not
| available to everyone
| williamstein wrote:
| If you're doing software development, then https://www.phind.com/
| with the expert checkbox uses GPT-4 and is better than the GPT-4
| subscription, and is free. I just learned about this on Hacker
| News yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34884338
|
| I just did a little test involving a question about the Link
| component in Nextjs, and phind is aware of the major API change
| nextjs recently made to that component, whereas of course
| chatgpt/gpt-4 isn't, due to the training data cutoff.
| Baeocystin wrote:
| This is such a strange question. $20/month is a mouse fart of an
| expense, and it buys you access to what is probably the most
| important tech development in decades. And even when you run out
| of GPT-4 time, it gets you full access to the previous GPT-3.5,
| pre-turbo pruning. I haven't had a single busy-please-wait time
| since I subbed, and that alone has paid for years of the
| $20/month price.
|
| [edit] I will add that even though the article is barely more
| than a few (rather oddly chosen, IMO) prompts, it is useful for
| folks to be able to see 3.5/4 side by side.
| ilaksh wrote:
| It's a ridiculous question.
|
| But people are dumb. Wait 15 years or something and the
| question will be something like, "Should you pay $100 per month
| for a 1000 IQ exocortex that is fully integrated with on-demand
| AI experts in every field and seamlessly inserts useful
| thoughts and abilities into your daily life?"
| tester457 wrote:
| You're right that this article's question is ridiculous but I
| worry about transhumanism and the abuse such technology will
| bring.
|
| I rather keep my exocortex on the outside before getting
| subtle advertisements as thoughts and genuinely believing
| they are my own desires.
| spaceman_2020 wrote:
| I'm absolutely amazed that there are people on HN who make
| their living in tech and won't spring for the plus version.
|
| At the very least, you owe it to your basic curiosity if not
| your career.
| addisonl wrote:
| > pre-turbo pruning
|
| I hadn't heard this part, can you expand?
| 0x008 wrote:
| the standard GPT3 version used in chatgpt is gpt3.5-turbo. it
| is a pruned version of GPT3 (trimmed down), to have faster
| response times and less computational cost.
| affinepplan wrote:
| I think it saves me about 30 min / day. that's worth more than
| $20 / month to me
| spaceman_2020 wrote:
| GPT-4 is absolutely 100% worth the subscription. It's paid itself
| back in the hours of time it has saved me in looking up new
| frameworks and code.
|
| I wanted to create a pretty complex form with autofill. It
| suggested react select, helped me customize the styling and
| deploy it within minutes. Normally, I would have taken an hour
| just to go through the documentation and the somewhat complicated
| styling.
| gandalfff wrote:
| Why not just use Bing AI for $0/month?
| InfamousRece wrote:
| No
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